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This is great on the springs. Thanks you two. Now to figure out how to build.
This is a great forum.
This is a great forum.
TOTALLY AWESOME!!!
I can't wait to see how large the thread gets when these babies arrive!!
Thanks MJMetz and Dan of course!!
I can't wait to see how large the thread gets when these babies arrive!!
Thanks MJMetz and Dan of course!!
So I think the idea for a tubing coop is not realistic.
I just purchased 6 ft, shipped for:
USplastic.com Item No. 44027
7/8" OD x 3/4" ID Acrylic Tubing
Order Totals
Sub Total: $3.06
Shipping & Handling: $4.99
Shipping Method: via Standard Ground (UPS, USPS)
Grand Total: $8.05
6 feet should allow plenty of room for learning how to cut it....
Also have a polycarbonate sample coming from another vendor.
Good Luck
I just purchased 6 ft, shipped for:
USplastic.com Item No. 44027
7/8" OD x 3/4" ID Acrylic Tubing
Order Totals
Sub Total: $3.06
Shipping & Handling: $4.99
Shipping Method: via Standard Ground (UPS, USPS)
Grand Total: $8.05
6 feet should allow plenty of room for learning how to cut it....
Also have a polycarbonate sample coming from another vendor.
Good Luck
caillel - hopefully this isn't an intrusion - thought it might be good to keep all our leads for hardware in one place.
I've been searching for washers and found these at McMaster-Carr. Specs appear ok. The wire nails I've found were a 7/64" head so the additional ID shouldn't present a problem. I won't know for sure until all the parts get to the same place so this is mainly for info. at this point. These are 5.45 per pack of 12 so not particularly cheap for the washer world and they're actually a disc spring. I'm also getting an equivalent size in a wave washer which may work.
McMaster-Carr #9712K52
Shape Belleville
Material Type Steel
Finish Plain
Belleville Shape Non-Serrated
Inside Diameter .093"
Outside Diameter .187"
Minimum Thickness .01"
The male side of a spherical washer looked ideal, but I haven't been able to find any small enough. If anyone finds good parts, post them up.
If it helps, you're looking for something in the #0 to #1 range on the washers. The wire nail is 1/2" x 19ga. which should have about a .042" OD.
I've been searching for washers and found these at McMaster-Carr. Specs appear ok. The wire nails I've found were a 7/64" head so the additional ID shouldn't present a problem. I won't know for sure until all the parts get to the same place so this is mainly for info. at this point. These are 5.45 per pack of 12 so not particularly cheap for the washer world and they're actually a disc spring. I'm also getting an equivalent size in a wave washer which may work.
McMaster-Carr #9712K52
Shape Belleville
Material Type Steel
Finish Plain
Belleville Shape Non-Serrated
Inside Diameter .093"
Outside Diameter .187"
Minimum Thickness .01"
The male side of a spherical washer looked ideal, but I haven't been able to find any small enough. If anyone finds good parts, post them up.
If it helps, you're looking for something in the #0 to #1 range on the washers. The wire nail is 1/2" x 19ga. which should have about a .042" OD.
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I already have wire nails for everyone, we just need to find a compatable washer. That one is too thin it should be 1mm thick or .0395" (.04") Optimum is 1mm ID x 5mm OD x 1mm thick or (.04" x .2" x .04")
Dan
Right, and the nails are everywhere, I just included the measurements rather than track back to the other thread. My logic was to find something for the folks that say they don't have experience. After looking, it seems it would be easier to thicken than grind down to size (esp. if you don't have the tools). Wish I could have found a match... don't know how many sites I went through. I'm also concerned the bevel may not be deep enough... I think it's okay there, but not convinced yet.
From looking at your specs, I think the problem will be getting the spring to compress enough with the thinner washer. Finding parts to stack may solve that without the machining. If I'm wrong on the washer thickness effecting the compression let me know... I'd hate to think I had it ready just to go back to the beginning on arrival.
From looking at your specs, I think the problem will be getting the spring to compress enough with the thinner washer. Finding parts to stack may solve that without the machining. If I'm wrong on the washer thickness effecting the compression let me know... I'd hate to think I had it ready just to go back to the beginning on arrival.
Actually spring compression is the easy part. The way I do it is tin the nail end with the spring and washer already on it, tin the inside of the tube. Then stand the tube up, us a magnet like the ones on the end of those cheap screw drivers. Use the magnet to pick up the head of the nail, the brads suck (not stable) the flat nail head types work best. Now just insert the nail tip into the tube and heat it with a soldering iron while pushing down with the magnet. The nail will go into the tube and just feel the resistance of the spring. Then pull the soldering iron away and let it cool while maintaining pressure. Once cooled your done. It is ready to be mounted, that is for the neg post. The positive post, I solder the pos wire in the tube first and then do the same procedure as the neg post.
Sounds complicated but is really easy. I will post a video on the procedure when I get time.
Dan
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This bring me to another question. How exactly are they mounted into the hole? And are the holes pre drilled or is this something we will have to do on our own?
Nevermind about how they are mounted into the hole. I read it on the other thread.
Sorry about posting twice , I forget you can edit post.
Sorry about posting twice , I forget you can edit post.
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Hi
Spoke to Chris at themeshcompany - with regard to sperfine 400 stainless steel mesh (Mesh Dan used on the prototype)
Just back from holiday - so I got the feeling his desk is full - the superfine 400 is the most expensive they produce
i explained we needed it for wicking purposes - looking for 4 by 1.5 inch pieces to be rolled up by us
How wide was the roll = 1.2 meters - I asked if it was 1.2 or 1.22 as if makes a difference 4 foot or just short
for a 4.5 inch strip of the 1.2(to be confirmed)m we are looking at £15 (at the gate price) = $23.85
I was thinking of cutting the strip into 4 by 4.5 inch pieces (ie 3 wicks) these would fit a plastic cd sleeve for protection during transportation
so each strip would make 12, 4 by 4.5 pieces
I then started asking for price by the yard - Chris didn't know how much stock was available - been away orders and lead time Etc...
Chris took my phone number and will be in touch by Wednesday
Question is a 3 wick piece too big? or small?
Are you interested in a coop for mesh? - should i proceed?
Am Iooking at 150 , 4 by 4.5 inch pieces of mesh?
Am I thinking on the right lines?
I will post again Wednesday when I will speak to Chris again
Cheers
tillis
Spoke to Chris at themeshcompany - with regard to sperfine 400 stainless steel mesh (Mesh Dan used on the prototype)
Just back from holiday - so I got the feeling his desk is full - the superfine 400 is the most expensive they produce
i explained we needed it for wicking purposes - looking for 4 by 1.5 inch pieces to be rolled up by us
How wide was the roll = 1.2 meters - I asked if it was 1.2 or 1.22 as if makes a difference 4 foot or just short
for a 4.5 inch strip of the 1.2(to be confirmed)m we are looking at £15 (at the gate price) = $23.85
I was thinking of cutting the strip into 4 by 4.5 inch pieces (ie 3 wicks) these would fit a plastic cd sleeve for protection during transportation
so each strip would make 12, 4 by 4.5 pieces
I then started asking for price by the yard - Chris didn't know how much stock was available - been away orders and lead time Etc...
Chris took my phone number and will be in touch by Wednesday
Question is a 3 wick piece too big? or small?
Are you interested in a coop for mesh? - should i proceed?
Am Iooking at 150 , 4 by 4.5 inch pieces of mesh?
Am I thinking on the right lines?
I will post again Wednesday when I will speak to Chris again
Cheers
tillis
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tillis, thank you so much for looking into this for us. I can't answer for everyone but I would prefer to purchase enough for 6 wicks for each of my 2 mods. I figure there will be a learning curve (mistakes) until I get it correct. I do want to be part of the co-op and would be willing to help any way I can. Thanks again to you and everyone working on this. I am just a bit overwhelmed right now thinking about assembling this mod.....it will be interesting to say the least. I just wonder how frustrated I can get. 
tillis, thank you so much for looking into this for us. I can't answer for everyone but I would prefer to purchase enough for 6 wicks for each of my 2 mods. I figure there will be a learning curve (mistakes) until I get it correct. I do want to be part of the co-op and would be willing to help any way I can. Thanks again to you and everyone working on this. I am just a bit overwhelmed right now thinking about assembling this mod.....it will be interesting to say the least. I just wonder how frustrated I can get.
Thanks for the reply
Its feedback I'm looking for
If you are getting a mod or 2 and don't want to be in the coop for mesh please say so - all feed back welcome
Cheers
tillis
So we are looking at 3 wicks for just under 2 bucks plus shipping, that need to be purchased 12 at a time.
If this does happen, depending on shipping costs, I would go in for Qty 5 of the 3-wick pieces, for 10 bucks plus shipping. That is a better deal than I have found so far.
Any idea on the shipping costs? Is there a flat rate from the UK to the US?
I would be willing to take the US distribution in a single shipment if it made sense, as I know there is a flat USPS rate once it gets here.
Is there other interest for this?
If this does happen, depending on shipping costs, I would go in for Qty 5 of the 3-wick pieces, for 10 bucks plus shipping. That is a better deal than I have found so far.
Any idea on the shipping costs? Is there a flat rate from the UK to the US?
I would be willing to take the US distribution in a single shipment if it made sense, as I know there is a flat USPS rate once it gets here.
Is there other interest for this?
RoyaMail doesnt have a flat rate on small packets to USA
Grams
1 – 100 £2.07
101 – 120 £2.32
121 – 140 £2.60
141 – 160 £2.90
161 – 180 £3.20
181 – 200 £3.50
201 – 220 £3.80
221 – 240 £3.96
241 – 260 £4.06
261 – 280 £4.16
281 – 300 £4.26
every 100g up to 2kg add£1.11
(max weight is 2kg apart from books and pamphlets max 5kg)
i don't know about other couriers - will start to look (any ideas?)
i don't know how much the mesh weighs (any idea?)
Grams
1 – 100 £2.07
101 – 120 £2.32
121 – 140 £2.60
141 – 160 £2.90
161 – 180 £3.20
181 – 200 £3.50
201 – 220 £3.80
221 – 240 £3.96
241 – 260 £4.06
261 – 280 £4.16
281 – 300 £4.26
every 100g up to 2kg add£1.11
(max weight is 2kg apart from books and pamphlets max 5kg)
i don't know about other couriers - will start to look (any ideas?)
i don't know how much the mesh weighs (any idea?)
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Let's see 28 grams to an ounce. Why would I know that?
Sorry, I'm not much help.
Sorry, I'm not much help.
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