WISMEC Reuleaux RX200 TC

Status
Not open for further replies.

BillW50

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 23, 2014
3,429
34,520
US
Alright, thank you. I read that as long as they're within a 4% difference in voltage from the lowest battery, that they'll be fine. I plan on getting that external charger asap, but for now I will be fine I've gathered?
Oh crap, I had to pull out a calculator to figure what 4% would be. Okay that is 0.168 volts when fully charged (4.20v). Yes that sounds about right. I wouldn't worry about it if you check the voltages with a multimeter though. If you did happen to marry three batteries that are virtually 100% alike, they may not start changing for awhile. As long as they stay the same, the RX200 charging isn't hurting anything. It just can't do anything about it if they are not.
 

MadTemp

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 30, 2015
128
66
Well, at first, I was about to just get rid of this mod...even though I currently don't have anything regulated, outside of two minivolts, but don't get high enough in wattage to fit my needs/desires.

I was having issues with temp control with SS 316L.. I don't know what was going on. Constant issues, even things that should have been ironed out with the 3.0 update, that was already installed on the mod when I received it. At first, things seemed to be working, but that was just with test fires, and I had too much going on to wick it with a coil setup I wanted to use, and also go outside to vape it(due to current living situation).

When I finally got around to trying to vape it, I was constantly getting the temp protection message. I dialed the temp and wattage all across the board, and nothing would work. So after stressing out about that for a day or two, I sat it in my drawer, and a couple of days later, I pulled it out, and voila! I don't know why, but it decided to be obedient, but didn't want to fully test the temp protection, due to the juice I've been using to break it in was purchased, and not made by me...didn't want to waste an amount of juice that costs the same as a bottle I'd be able to make on my own...lol, almost at least.

Only things I notice now, even though I lock my resistance before I start using it for the day, I still notice that the resistance reading will fluctuate with the stumpy I'm currently using..haven't tried other atomizers since I just threw the stumpy's back on after trying out the few that I received with my ebay shopping spree. I haven't noticed this happening before. 0.10-0.12 Ohms...which is a pretty big deal with the TCR of SS. I'm still trying to dial it into perfection, so I have my custom settings at 88, 92, and 98. Cuz I've gotten mixed things about the RX200 SS being for 304 or 317, but I kinda think that is bs, considering the wismec website specifically says 316L.
I also have had the random issue of it kicking me out of temp control to VW. It's happened when I switched to atomizers with lower resistances than what was on before, but the other day, I had it happen to me after I was using the atomizer for quite a bit of time, and all of the sudden, I'm thinking I'm about to see a Temp protection message, but was just seeing "20 W," even though I have VW set up for at least 50 Watts.


I was negligent, and I didn't put my batteries on a meter after my first discharge. I got two sets of HG2's. I charged one set on my charger, and I charged one set with the mod. Although I didn't measure the voltage of the batteries after the ones that charged through the mod discharged, one battery took twice as long to charge than the other two. Even though my charger was charging at 1 Amp after the other two were removed from the charger, it still took an extra 45+minutes for the last one to fully charge... If I get a chance, I'll charge the other set through the mod, and measure the voltage before and after discharging.

I went ahead and labeled my batteries after hearing and reading that the RX200 doesn't do balance charging, but has this been proven otherwise? I would assume it would, if it has the ability to monitor individual cells, and I would think that joyetech wouldn't skimp out on a feature like that.

I am loving stainless steel though. I plan to continue using it on all my mods for now on..

All in all, I do love this mod. The form factor is pleasant, and build quality feels solid...but I'm seeing too many of them. I'm a bit of a hipster when it comes to having things that others don't..or maybe I'm just too punk rock. I'm not upset about the temp control issues, as I've never had an issue in determining when to drip again. I see this being a bigger issue if I was a tank user, rather than being a dripper purist...but I'm open for options on tanks from you all- seeing a lot of familiar faces in here. I just stopped searching for new tanks after a few I tried after having an estia- which I still love, but I'm fully transitioned into an airy lung hitter. If there's anything that offers the same flavor as a stumpy, that's also rebuildable-with ease, I'm all ears.
Griffin rdta
 
  • Like
Reactions: suspectK

chinacatsunflower-

Senior Member
Feb 23, 2016
218
192
Oh crap, I had to pull out a calculator to figure what 4% would be. Okay that is 0.168 volts when fully charged (4.20v). Yes that sounds about right. I wouldn't worry about it if you check the voltages with a multimeter though. If you did happen to marry three batteries that are virtually 100% alike, they may not start changing for awhile. As long as they stay the same, the RX200 charging isn't hurting anything. It just can't do anything about it if they are not.

My father brought home a multimeter and I checked each battery. They are all currently reading 3.6v, so if they are uneven, they are under a 0.1 difference :) will still be buying an external charger and another set of batteries for faster charging and proper charging. Thank you for all your help, I appreciate it immensely.
 
  • Like
Reactions: suspectK

MadTemp

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 30, 2015
128
66
Yeah, I certainly wouldn't push those cells past 150 watts max, that doesn't even leave much headroom. And "authentic Imrens" is oxymoronic, they are authentically re-wrapped by Imren as they do not actually manufacture the batteries (to the best of my knowledge).
According to the company they are actually making them themselves
 

BillW50

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 23, 2014
3,429
34,520
US
My father brought home a multimeter and I checked each battery. They are all currently reading 3.6v, so if they are uneven, they are under a 0.1 difference :) will still be buying an external charger and another set of batteries for faster charging and proper charging. Thank you for all your help, I appreciate it immensely.

Oh good deal!
 

BillW50

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 23, 2014
3,429
34,520
US
Also, when I do get an external charger. With what amps should I charge the batteries on as with the Efect Luc you can change the amps.
The higher the amps, the faster they will charge. Is there a point which is too much? Yes! All of our batteries can be charged at 1C safely. What the hell does 1C mean? It just means the battery capacity times one (2C would be double). Using 2500mah batteries which means the same as 2.5ah (without the m which means milli). So they can be safely charged at 2.5 amps. Anything less is ok too. It just takes longer.
 

pevinsghost

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Aug 6, 2015
331
363
St Louis, MO
According to the company they are actually making them themselves
Setting up battery manufacturing lines takes hundreds of millions of dollars, licensing, and other red tape.

Sorry, every thing I've seen about Imren indicates they are lying.

There's a reason all the companies that make quality batteries you can also find televisions they manufacture. They're the only companies that can afford the production lines.

Rewrapping on the other hand is cheap.

There are videos and images of people unwrapping Imren batteries to find the original manufacturer markings, but I recommend against doing this yourself. Deconstructing batteries is dangerous.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KenD

chinacatsunflower-

Senior Member
Feb 23, 2016
218
192
The higher the amps, the faster they will charge. Is there a point which is too much? Yes! All of our batteries can be charged at 1C safely. What the hell does 1C mean? It just means the battery capacity times one (2C would be double). Using 2500mah batteries which means the same as 2.5ah (without the m which means milli). So they can be safely charged at 2.5 amps. Anything less is ok too. It just takes longer.

I can't express in words my appreciation for your swift replies and helpful knowledge, but I will say thank you again as that is all I can do! :)
 

USMCotaku

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Apr 25, 2014
11,877
45,735
California
So let's see if I have this right. The RX200 when turned off and then back on remembers the temp, the wattage, and that I had the ohms locked, but it doesn't remember what the cold resistance was?

I just tried the same thing with my Reuleaux DNA 200, by removing the batteries and putting them back in and I had taken a vape and it was exactly the same as before I pulled the batteries. Not only did it remember the temp, the wattage, and that I had the ohms locked, but also what the cold resistance was at.
It is supposed to remeber, but your symptoms point to it not doing so for some reason that time

Sent from my LGMS631 using Tapatalk
 

USMCotaku

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Apr 25, 2014
11,877
45,735
California
I've been using my vape and my friend came over and mentioned how she believes that my voltage may be too high for the wattage I'm running on my RX200. I was wondering if you guys could help clarify if this is true or not?

I'm running a 0.5 ohm single coil (It's reading 0.52, forgot to lock it), at 50 watts, and it is reading 5.10v. Is this too high of a voltage? I have noticed that I've been getting quite warm hits.
Nope...5.1 volts is right on for a .52 ohm coil at 50 watts

Sent from my LGMS631 using Tapatalk
 

chinacatsunflower-

Senior Member
Feb 23, 2016
218
192
Hey again guys! So I just realized that my Uwell Crown came with a TC coil and I am most definitely going to try it out on my RX200 when my 0.25 dies. How exactly does the TC work on the RX200? How would one go about checking amps drawn while in TC mode? Want to make sure I'm safe and know what I'm doing when I go to use the coil.
 

jlaudiofan

Full Member
Dec 27, 2015
12
5
44
To accurately find out the amps you're drawing, it is I=P/V (Amps = Watts / Volts) for regulated mods.

I'd like to add:
I = Amps = Current
P = Power = Watts
V = Volts

Not everyone knows, but now you do!

That formula can also be rearranged:
Current = Watts / Voltage
Watts = Current * Voltage
Voltage = Watts / Current

I'm pretty sure I have those right ;)
 

chinacatsunflower-

Senior Member
Feb 23, 2016
218
192
hehe, you replied while I was editing my post ;)
I thought it might be easier for someone to see the formulas all laid out, your post was very well written btw =)

Oops! Understandable and thank you for the compliment. If I want to be technical though, I didn't type plainly that amp = current, but within the link's URL it says, "current draw"... soooo, technically ;) ahahah
 

suspectK

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 7, 2013
4,573
2,893
Alabummer
I can't express in words my appreciation for your swift replies and helpful knowledge, but I will say thank you again as that is all I can do! :)

But....

There's been evidence, for a long time, that charging cells at higher rates, and their maximum charging rates, degrades the battery life(the amount of cycles the cell can go through before it's at the end of its lifespan). It's identical to the reversal of that. You take a battery, and discharge it at higher currents that it can still handle safely, that cell will not have as long of a battery lifespan if it wasn't pushed at its limits.

There's also been heated arguments over this in this community, but I always opt for a slower charge.

The cells will handle the higher charging rates SAFELY, but if you're not in the position to replace cells every 6months or so, I would recommend sticking with a slower charge rate.
 

suspectK

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 7, 2013
4,573
2,893
Alabummer
Certain atties not working well in tc on the DNA 200 while having no problems with the rx200, in several different ways. And about simplicity, sure, with the newest (beta) firmware you can change tc materials directly on the device, BUT you still need to use escribe to first load those csv files to the device. The fact is that the DNA 200 is seriously crippled (in comparison to what it can do) without escribe. Sure, you could simply use it in vw or ni200 mode, but that's like buying an off road vehicle and only doing city driving (wait, that's what people do with SUVs, isn't it). Preferences differ. I prefer the rx200. But don't misunderstand me, I'm still quite happy with my Reuleaux DNA 200.

Sent from my M7_PLUS using Tapatalk

Seems like we're always at the opposite end of the spectrum with things...lol.

Up until yesterday and today...I guess it would be the past two previous days.

The first day, I was having to vape at 200 degrees Fahrenheit. The next day, I couldn't even vape in TC mode...until the late evening, and I was vaping fine at ~420F, with temp control actually stepping in if I dialed the temp down, or the wicks started running dry.

I would contribute it to the climate, but the first day, the weather was identical to the days before...:/

At least there's VW to fall back on in those situations...
 
  • Like
Reactions: haleysdadda

BillW50

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 23, 2014
3,429
34,520
US
The cells will handle the higher charging rates SAFELY, but if you're not in the position to replace cells every 6months or so, I would recommend sticking with a slower charge rate.

I would love to tell you that if you follow so and so steps, your batteries will last forever. But unfortunately making batteries last forever is currently impossible. Either the number of recharges is going to do them in, or time itself will. And as the number of recharges and/or time takes its toll, they lose capacity. Once they degrade enough where you have to carry more and more batteries with you since they won't even last an hour, it all seems really futile to me. Just spend 6 bucks and get a new battery.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread