WISMEC Reuleaux RX200 TC

[Carnage9270]

This forum is turning into Fox News...scare tactics with no facts to back it up. THIS COULD BE YOU... c'mon people. I suppose if I post about an alien life form being created when I vape at 88mph in a DeLorean, I would be taken at my word. Especially if I randomly throw pictures up saying this could be me in this picture with an alien.

 

[deucesjack]

This forum is turning into Fox News...scare tactics with no facts to back it up. THIS COULD BE YOU... c'mon people. I suppose if I post about an alien life form being created when I vape at 88mph in a DeLorean, I would be taken at my word. Especially if I randomly throw pictures up saying this could be me in this picture with an alien.

That damn spell check. I know you meant to say Main Stream Media instead of Fox News. Lol

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[Rizzyking]

Given the constant media message of "ecigs are dangerous" and the barrage of images from those few incidents where things go wrong it's easy for less experienced vapers to worry not great but not the end of the world. Add in on any vaping forum you have elitists that constantly spew the "cheap is crap" mantra and we as a community contribute to the panic, some people forget we are dealing with basic electronics here they don't have to be produced in a state of the art facility to be perfectly good and safe. Personally I'm more worried about getting hit in the head by space junk them I am of this mod or any other I own and that will continue until many more incidents occur where we have the complete story which we still do not on the one incident that has caused concern in some. My friend is completely disassembling his rx200 down to the wires and running a whole range of tests tonight so tomorrow I'll know exactly how this mod works not something I'd ever do but it's what he likes to do.

 

[lsprn]

I remember when they said cell phones would emit waves thru your ear and give you brain cancer.

My first proper alien and he's an idiot.

 

[USMCotaku]

Mine reads 3.80, 3.77, 3.84 is that ok? Normal?

Yes, that's a normal reading

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[USMCotaku]

I remember when they said cell phones would emit waves thru your ear and give you brain cancer.

My first proper alien and he's an idiot.

There is still some truth to cell phones linked with increased cancer [emoji14]
Women who carry them in their bras have a much higher rate of breast cancer for a reason

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[Quantum Mech]

If there's the remotest possibility this was a mod fault as opposed to a user fault then I disagree.

Just my personal belief .... for what its worth

Having followed all the posts by the store owner and his sales assistant

Something did not add up and they were hiding something

Stories kept chopping and changing

One minute it just blew, next as he went to open the battery door, then after the cover was removed

One minute a guy just brought it in to show them then it blew, then they handed it to him and it blew

Maybe minor discrepancies but enough to make me feel something was being hidden

It also makes me wonder that the store don't sell them .... why ....out of their choice or the distributor wont deal with them .... who knows

I will certainly bare this in mind and strip it down before use to check for any means of shorting

Keep an eye on the batteries discharging evenly periodically but it wont stop me using it unless I find a fault

 

[Jalcide]

If anyone's doing a full break-down component test, I'd be interested to know what the resistance is on the battery contacts. They did look a bit oxidized (wouldn't hurt to clean them). But I can't imagine that getting warm enough to worry about.

Also, from a photo on Wismec's website, it looks like the board has at least one surface-mount fuse (similar to the DNA200's 25A fuse that's inline to the battery wiring). Would be nice to get a confirmation on that.

 

[Carnage9270]

I see no fuse. The fuse wouldn't protect from batteries venting. Only provides protection to the board. A hard short or using under rated batteries would be the culprit of a vent.

 

[Mowgli]

One minute it just blew, next as he went to open the battery door, then after the cover was removed, One minute a guy just brought it in to show them then it blew, then they handed it to him and it blew, Maybe minor discrepancies but enough to make me feel something was being hidden
It also makes me wonder that the store don't sell them .... why ....out of their choice or the distributor wont deal with them .... who knows

I will certainly bare this in mind and strip it down before use to check for any means of shorting

Keep an eye on the batteries discharging evenly periodically but it wont stop me using it unless I find a fault

nothing positive to add

 

[AnsonJames]

This forum is turning into Fox News...scare tactics with no facts to back it up. THIS COULD BE YOU... c'mon people. I suppose if I post about an alien life form being created when I vape at 88mph in a DeLorean, I would be taken at my word. Especially if I randomly throw pictures up saying this could be me in this picture with an alien.

I said the remotest possibility didn't I?
I think it's good to err on the side of caution, the photo is an actual image of the RX200 owners hand - all the brand loyalty is slightly misplaced as is the cavalier attitude towards possible injury.

This happened - the photo illustrates the injuries it caused.
I have an RX200 myself, chances are this was user error but there's also the possibility it had nothing to do with user and it's the device at fault.

I'm going to wait for the true and unedited version of the story before I make my mind up about the RX200 - I'm fond of my hands in their current condition

 

[Devlinukr]

Was that the picture of his injured hand on reddit?

The batteries were all used for the first time together in the mod?

I know folks don't want to hear this but there's a good possibility the mod is at fault, not the user.

2 old batteries and another of a different brand he borrowed from a guy in the shop.

I still have an iStick 50w from March that I was assured on multiple occasions by users on Reddit would explode at some point. Here we are 8/9 months later and although I don't use it often, when I do it works fine.

Thousands of people die or injure themselves on a daily basis because they are idiots. The message I take from that is not to be one of them.

A toaster can kill you if you make toast in the bath with it.

 

[lsprn]

My point peep still using cell phones..be careful..research..if you have reservations...then don't use device.

My first proper alien and he's an idiot.

 

[AnsonJames]

2 old batteries and another of a different brand he borrowed from a guy in the shop.

I still have an iStick 50w from March that I was assured on multiple occasions by users on Reddit would explode at some point. Here we are 8/9 months later and although I don't use it often, when I do it works fine.

Thousands of people die or injure themselves on a daily basis because they are idiots. The message I take from that is not to be one of them.

A toaster can kill you if you make toast in the bath with it.

Can you tell me where you read about the third battery being borrowed from the guy in the shop - that's confirmed?
I'd still expect some form of protection from a device that you put near your face.

Incidentally, a toaster in the bath would blow the fuses in your house before it could kill you - it's a form of device protection.

 

[Darkly spectr]

Since I didn't get an answer last time.

What is the maximum input amps of the device.

is it still 23ish like the DNA 200 version or is it like 30/40. Can't find it anywhere.

 

[Devlinukr]

Can you tell me where you read about the third battery being borrowed from the guy in the shop - that's confirmed?
I'd still expect some form of protection from a device that you put near your face.

Incidentally, a toaster in the bath would blow the fuses in your house before it could kill you - it's a form of device protection.

If you're worried about mods exploding in your face then probably best not to use any mods containing 18650 batteries because they are what have the potential to explode if used improperly.

The point was more that stupid people are ten a penny. If you don't know what you're doing and don't follow safe practices then I have no sympathy for you. All mods come with battery warnings. The site I buy my batteries makes you tick a box saying that you are aware these batteries are dangerous.

Treat your stuff with the care and attention it requires and you'll be fine.

 

[Rizzyking]

I'm not technical enough to understand or relate the barrage of information I'll get about this mod tomorrow but will do my best to pass on what I do understand. Just to make my position crystal clear on the blow up incident I don't think the whole truth about what happened has been told and yes there have been too many different versions from people that were supposedly there at the time. From my quick inspection of the insides nothing jumped out at me as a cause for concern and it's been rock solid in operation now on it's third set of battery's. We can know everything about a mod but not the people that use them and someone who bought this mod and put crap battery's in it doesn't mean anyone should get too concerned just yet.

 

[Carnage9270]

I'll say it again, hard short or under powered batteries is what causes this. It's damn near impossible to hard short like this in a plastic battery sled. The 510 connection shorting like this is damn near impossible unless there was free metal bodies floating in the mod. Even so the resistance of the mod itself should have taken the risk of venting away on a 510 hard short. That leaves batteries...and they are the only part of this whole equation not pictured anywhere. Have the mod pictured, have his hand (supposedly) pictured but no batteries. A shop would have done that, immediately.

Married batteries have nothing to do with a venting situation like this. Either one or all of the batteries were under powered for the power being applied. Just because this mod was sitting on the counter when it happened, doesn't mean venting didn't start happening before the guy even walked in the door. The batteries slowly went into thermal runaway and finished on the counter. At least that's my opinion, take it for what you will. But a mod won't all of a sudden fail with a hard short out of nowhere.

Fox News...

 

[AnsonJames]

If you're worried about mods exploding in your face then probably best not to use any mods containing 18650 batteries because they are what have the potential to explode if used improperly.

The point was more that stupid people are ten a penny. If you don't know what you're doing and don't follow safe practices then I have no sympathy for you. All mods come with battery warnings. The site I buy my batteries makes you tick a box saying that you are aware these batteries are dangerous.

Treat your stuff with the care and attention it requires and you'll be fine.

And yet I've been vaping for four and a half years, four of which I've been using 18650 powered mods with no problems.
This mod has been in the wild for two weeks, I'm hoping this is user error and an isolated incident.

Some folks who want to give up cigarettes go in to vape shops and buy what they think is cool - not everyone knows about battery safety.

If someone get hurts then we're all in trouble, the FDA is already trying to kill vaping as it is.

 

[Hightech Redneck]

I agree that we may never know the truth. Until we do everyone is guessing. But since everyone is speculating.... in my mind I echo what others have said, it's the mystery 3rd battery. Picturing someone not familiar with the mod I'll propose a possibility too. This person very well could have pulled on one side of the battery door instead of both straight out. Now if the 3rd batt was ok but the wrap worn on the edge they could easily have pushed the outer batt to one side shorting it. The large copper contact at the top could easily "ground" + to housing on the batt causing the vent. Or Anakin got too close with his light Saber lol. We may never know but I could see what I stated happening. Who knows, keep a check on your batteries and you will reduce the risk.