Wth: Guns n roses dj ashba blames e-cigarettes for near death experience
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I suspect his 'recreational" use of drugs had more to do with his experience than anything he got from an e-cig.
No doubt Untrue Palbott will include this in her next "study" of adverse ecig effects ....
Either he's trolling, has an agenda to discredit the viability of e-cigs, or was compulsively ingesting large doses of nicotine which may have caused an adverse reaction.
and just because propylene glycol is used as an additive in antifreeze doesn't suddenly mean it's no longer safe for human consumption via inhalation.
and just because propylene glycol is used as an additive in antifreeze doesn't suddenly mean it's no longer safe for human consumption via inhalation.
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1. he got a kit at a "mall" in another country
2. hasn't the antifreeze angle been played out? (my understanding is that PG was once an ingredient in antifreeze that was removed due to it's sweet taste making it attractive to animals...so now "pet safe" antifreeze is PG free)
3. 33 packs of cigarettes? was he vaping 1000mg? maybe he just didn't notice he felt terrible...maybe that is the norm
4. "body would go into shock"? but he was ok not smoking while in the hospital
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1. he got a kit at a "mall" in another country
2. hasn't the antifreeze angle been played out? (my understanding is that PG was once an ingredient in antifreeze that was removed due to it's sweet taste making it attractive to animals...so now "pet safe" antifreeze is PG free)
3. 33 packs of cigarettes? was he vaping 1000mg? maybe he just didn't notice he felt terrible...maybe that is the norm
4. "body would go into shock"? but he was ok not smoking while in the hospital
Regarding point #2. Actually, it was DEG (diethylene glycol) that used to be in automotive antifreeze. Now "pet safe" antifreeze contains PG, which is Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS), instead of deadly DEG.
All this hoopla got started because in 2009 when the FDA tested some samples from the two companies (Smoking Everywhere and NJOY) that had filed a lawsuit against the agency, the FDA was looking for something--anything--that they might use to generate a negative public opinion of e-cigarettes. The FDA found a trace (1%) of DEG in the liquid of one of the cartridges it tested. But their press release used a popular propaganda technique to deliver the news.
By using the word "antifreeze", the spin-jockey used the propaganda technique "Name Calling" to generate fear in the audience. The word "carcinogens" has the same effect, and an additional propaganda technique, Card Stacking, or selective omission, added fuel to the fire. The spin jockey conveniently forgot to mention that the same chemicals, Tobacco Specific Nitrosamines (TSNAs), are found in FDA-approved nicotine patches and gum, in roughly equivalent quantities (nanograms). The goal was to make people believe that e-cigarettes would be more likely to cause cancer than sticking with smoking. Unfortunately, it worked.
But since no cases of cancer have ever been linked to nicotine patches or gum, it's very unlikely that cancer would be caused by the 8 nanograms of TSNAs in that cartridge. Furthermore, since DEG vaporizes at a higher temperature than PG, exposure to DEG at all is unlikely. Propaganda Techniques
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I really do hope he didn't say these incredibly stupid statements. Every time I hear G&R on the radio, this crap will be forever embedded in my head
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