you opinion on clearomizers

[Rocketpunk]

Oooooh, you have no idea about the question you raised! Few things inspire ire in me when it comes to vaping. Clearos are the number one culprit.

One caveat I will give to clearos is they did help me jump the curve from a smoker to a vaper. But just as quickly as I swore by them, I started to hate them.

I went through three Stardusts before I realized they were, well, pretty much crap.

Inconsistent production, dry hits, burnt hits, wicking issues, leaking, cleaning, dry burns...the fiddling was just too much for me. But then I kept hearing about how freaking awesome ViVi Novas were. I was smacking my hands and licking my lips waiting for it, and when I got it, it let me down SO FREAKING HARD. I went through six different heads within a month. There is user error, and then there is product failure. I will admit user error, but this product FAILED.

I know the same can be said about carto tanks from the other side of the fence, but for ME, and this is just me speaking, carto tanks were almost 98% reliable. They still are. Out of over two dozen cartos I've used for multiple juices over a four month period of time (I rotate about 5 different juices, mostly sweet, so I go through more than normal), I've only had 3 bad cartos.

IMO, clearos work great... FOR A WHILE.

A very short while.

Just look at the clearomizer subforum and tell me it's nothing but a bunch of "Kanger t3 [fill in the blank] issues". Once more, I will reiterate: they're supposed to be "so easy to use", and yet there's already a Kangergate.

There. My opinion.

 

[MF DOOM]

Oooooh, you have no idea about the question you raised! Few things inspire ire in me when it comes to vaping. Clearos are the number one culprit.

One caveat I will give to clearos is they did help me jump the curve from a smoker to a vaper. But just as quickly as I swore by them, I started to hate them.

I went through three Stardusts before I realized they were, well, pretty much crap.

Inconsistent production, dry hits, burnt hits, wicking issues, leaking, cleaning, dry burns...the fiddling was just too much for me. But then I kept hearing about how freaking awesome ViVi Novas were. I was smacking my hands and licking my lips waiting for it, and when I got it, it let me down SO FREAKING HARD. I went through six different heads within a month. There is user error, and then there is product failure. I will admit user error, but this product FAILED.

I know the same can be said about carto tanks from the other side of the fence, but for ME, and this is just me speaking, carto tanks were almost 98% reliable. They still are. Out of over two dozen cartos I've used for multiple juices over a four month period of time (I rotate about 5 different juices, mostly sweet, so I go through more than normal), I've only had 3 bad cartos.

IMO, clearos work great... FOR A WHILE.

A very short while.

Just look at the clearomizer subforum and tell me it's nothing but a bunch of "Kanger t3 [fill in the blank] issues". Once more, I will reiterate: they're supposed to be "so easy to use", and yet there's already a Kangergate.

There. My opinion.

Yes, Caveat Emptor.

 

[yellowrider]

I like my vivi nova for home and vision clearo's work nice on the go, so I joined them together. I took the replacement 1.8 head from my vivi nova and put it in my Vision Clearomizer - Version 3. It will leave you a small gap in between the drip tip and silicone cap meet once all joined together. Cut a very small piece of the nova coil silicone cap to make up for small height difference, reuse vision silicone cap with the added piece from the nova silicone cap. Works great.

 

[Hello World]

Oooooh, you have no idea about the question you raised! Few things inspire ire in me when it comes to vaping. Clearos are the number one culprit.

One caveat I will give to clearos is they did help me jump the curve from a smoker to a vaper. But just as quickly as I swore by them, I started to hate them.

I went through three Stardusts before I realized they were, well, pretty much crap.

Inconsistent production, dry hits, burnt hits, wicking issues, leaking, cleaning, dry burns...the fiddling was just too much for me. But then I kept hearing about how freaking awesome ViVi Novas were. I was smacking my hands and licking my lips waiting for it, and when I got it, it let me down SO FREAKING HARD. I went through six different heads within a month. There is user error, and then there is product failure. I will admit user error, but this product FAILED.

I know the same can be said about carto tanks from the other side of the fence, but for ME, and this is just me speaking, carto tanks were almost 98% reliable. They still are. Out of over two dozen cartos I've used for multiple juices over a four month period of time (I rotate about 5 different juices, mostly sweet, so I go through more than normal), I've only had 3 bad cartos.

IMO, clearos work great... FOR A WHILE.

A very short while.

Just look at the clearomizer subforum and tell me it's nothing but a bunch of "Kanger t3 [fill in the blank] issues". Once more, I will reiterate: they're supposed to be "so easy to use", and yet there's already a Kangergate.

There. My opinion.

Yes, I'm gradually coming to that realization myself too.

Tabac BCC 2.6 clearos were great for 3 weeks, then one coil after the other packed it in. The replacement coils all blew within 3 days, wrecking a phenomenal amount of liquid. Once the unit/polyfill burns out, the juice in the tank has had it too, and has to be chucked as well. Clearos are looking more costly than they appear.

The Vivi Nova 3 I just received is probably even worse. It leaks everywhere, can't stop it, can't put it into my pocket, lame throat hits. performance-wise the VN3 gets the big thumbs down.

I'll have to start looking into good quality RBAs and cartos myself.

 

[cedric212]

Two words: Bogegate and Kangergate. Faulty clearo can be fixed/modded, but what do you do when you receive a defective carto? With all the inconsistent POS coming out from China, I prefer something that gives me some degree of control instead of binning it and hope the next one will work properly. Lesser of the two evils, I suppose. However, if you're not into rebuilding/modding, then a carto+tank is probably the better way to go since it costs <$1 for cartos if you shop around, just remember to stock up and check to make sure you didn't receive a faulty batch.

If you want to give clearo another try then I would recommend you check out miniT3 (warmer vape) and Drunker rebuildable (spinoff of splitfire which uses 4 wick leads to reduce dry hits):

Mini Kanger T3 or "Baby T3" by KangerTech for $5.99
Drunker Rebuildable Tank

 

[mayamason]

well i think i may give those mini vivi things a try. but do i need some sort of adapter to make them fit ego batterys?

if so which one, the ones listed at gotvapes are called extenders which is kind of confusing because i dont need an extender i need an adapter.

My personal suggestion - if you're going to try the vivi mini - is to get this set from MyFreedomSmokes. The other sets I've seen come with three different ohm heads: 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8. If you're using a standard eGo 3.7V battery (especially a Joye eGo that outputs at 3.3V), then the 2.4 and 2.8 ohm heads aren't going to work very well for you. The set from MFS comes with three of the same heads (you can pick 1.8 or 2.8), and that way you aren't left with two heads that won't work as well on a 3.7/3.3V battery. Vendors other than MFS may put together a set like this one, but I haven't seen one.

Also, the vivi will attach directly to an eGo battery (via the center 510 threads), but you may want to pick up a collar that covers the cone threads. Helps avoid the pencil-neck look, also makes it a little sturdier in my opinion. If you pull up the MFS link, it gives you the option to add "eGo thread cover base" on to your set.

 

[MF DOOM]

Curious. do you mean a whole wick? Or a single strand? Wouldn't pulling a whole wick out ruin the head?

No they slide out nicley. If they are gunked up, then they are usually fused...

 

[Ray D]

Cool. I'll assume it's something you should try mostly with a new head for just that reason (and my wicks fray after being washed and used anyway).

But my next new head I'm definitely going to try this. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Fugazzi]

I've only owned 2 kanger t3s so far, but they are a bit touchy. With some finagling they can work just fine. I've also been trying to read up on alternative delivery systems, but there is so much information out there, and it seems that everyone who pops in says that their solution is the best ever, and that solution usually costs an arm and a leg.

You can buy cotton yarn at walmart for $2 and cut a piece off that to lay on top of the coil. I think with any system, you'll have to do some fine tuning to figure out the best system for you.

 

[J.R. Bob Dobbs]

thanks for the info, however every time I have seen those "safe vaping charts" that show a wattage vs ohs listing they say that at 3.7v a 1.8ohm head burns too hot. it has also been said it "could" melt the plastic in the tanks or melt the coils.
I've linked the google image search because there's a ton of them, and many of them appear small. i cant seem to find the larger ones i've seen in the past.

My personal suggestion - if you're going to try the vivi mini - is to get this set from MyFreedomSmokes. The other sets I've seen come with three different ohm heads: 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8. If you're using a standard eGo 3.7V battery (especially a Joye eGo that outputs at 3.3V), then the 2.4 and 2.8 ohm heads aren't going to work very well for you. The set from MFS comes with three of the same heads (you can pick 1.8 or 2.8), and that way you aren't left with two heads that won't work as well on a 3.7/3.3V battery. Vendors other than MFS may put together a set like this one, but I haven't seen one.

Also, the vivi will attach directly to an eGo battery (via the center 510 threads), but you may want to pick up a collar that covers the cone threads. Helps avoid the pencil-neck look, also makes it a little sturdier in my opinion. If you pull up the MFS link, it gives you the option to add "eGo thread cover base" on to your set.

 

[MikenGA]

I don't get why folks are having so much trouble with Stardusts and Vivi Novas.

I've never had a 'leaker' (since I upgraded from the 'T' in Ego-T). The CE4's with long wicks are incomparable for me, and with weekly cleaning each lasts me for 2 to 3 months. Currently rockn two Vivi Novas (with weekly cleaning) for the last 4 months - same heads. No leaks, no dry hits (cuz I 'tip' regularly) and great vape every time. Plus, they're 'fiddle free' for ME. What's NOT to like???

I don't like cartos cuz they taste...uhmmmmmm...not too good; some kind of after taste I don't like.

I just bought a kanger T3 to try, and will break into it just out of curiosity.

We ought to have a SWAP PARTY, so I can get rid of these cartos I'll never use, and get some of those clearos other folks will never use.

 

[mayamason]

thanks for the info, however every time I have seen those "safe vaping charts" that show a wattage vs ohs listing they say that at 3.7v a 1.8ohm head burns too hot. it has also been said it "could" melt the plastic in the tanks or melt the coils.
I've linked the google image search because there's a ton of them, and many of them appear small. i cant seem to find the larger ones i've seen in the past.

How about this one - Vaping Power Chart - has a magnifying option if you click on the chart, too. I refer to it all the time.

And yes, if you have a (non-Joye) eGo that puts out 3.7V, then 1.8ohms *may* be too hot for you. (Personally, I love it and have not had any problems as of yet in my novas or other clearos, such as burning juice, frying hardware, etc. YMMV.)

However, if you have a genuine Joye eGo, then it's only giving you 3.3V. In which case a 1.8ohm clearo would work just fine. With the 2.4-2.8ohm heads, you'd only be vaping around 4 Watts, which will give you significantly less vapor & flavor.

 

[klynnn]

I only use the vision vivi nova mega as it is easier for me and don't have to fill it as often. I have been alternating between 2/3 for the last 5 mos. I have no dry hits but I do tip my ecig when I take a drag. The heads last 4+ weeks with regular cleaning and dryburning. Rebuilding the heads is a snap. Since I diy my own juice I never have problems with muted flavor as I just add more flavor to my mixes. For the price I paid and the length of use I don't think you can go wrong by having a couple in your supplies.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

My personal suggestion - if you're going to try the vivi mini - is to get this set from MyFreedomSmokes. The other sets I've seen come with three different ohm heads: 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8. If you're using a standard eGo 3.7V battery (especially a Joye eGo that outputs at 3.3V), then the 2.4 and 2.8 ohm heads aren't going to work very well for you. The set from MFS comes with three of the same heads (you can pick 1.8 or 2.8), .

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[danan]

I only use vision clearos. I have some clearos that never have any dry burnt hits and some that do that often. It seems to be a hit and miss thing with the clearos. I have two that I rotate that give great taste and no dry hits and great vapor. I've been using these two for about three weeks w/ no cleaning and they work maybe even better than when I first used them. I've also had clearos that needed a couple of tanks to break them in. Sometimes they don't wick good the first couple of tanks. I also get a bad clearo about a quarter of the time.

 

[Wondertwin]

I've been vaping since April with more interest in mods/batteries than the delivery method which is odd, but I have to say clearo's have been good to me. I find cartos and tanks diminish the lighter flavors I like but I'm beginning to suspect that's just me. If it's not a strong, complex flavor, then carto's seem to turn it into pure vapor with no flavor or throat hit. For example the strawberry champagne flavor from Ms T's I LOVE. In a stardust, heaven. Great throat hit, vapor, and flavor. The flavors are melded and consisted with each vape, no distinction between the strawberry and champagne. In a carto or tank, it sometimes tastes like a weak strawberry or a fruity weak champagne. What you get with each pull is different and weak. I suspect I simple recipe is being deconstructed through all the filling saturation but can't be sure.

Now my RY4's dessert/bakery vapes with strong flavor profiles, those seem to be enhanced by cartos or tanks. Banana fosters coffee tastes like vague sweetness with good throat hit/vapor in a clearo. In a carto/tank setup however every single nuance of flavor is pulled out and mixed.

I'm going to try the mini vivi novas for my beloved strawberry champagne, with the wick trick MF DOOM posted!

 

[tj99959]

Personal opion, they were a great option when the QC of cartomizers went south last spring & summer, but that's about it.

 

[MF DOOM]

Cool. I'll assume it's something you should try mostly with a new head for just that reason (and my wicks fray after being washed and used anyway).

But my next new head I'm definitely going to try this. Thanks for the tip.

10-4 good buddy.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Personal opion, they were a great option when the QC of cartomizers went south last spring & summer, but that's about it.

Wow, I think this is the first time I can't "like" you.
Other than those pathetic clearomizers by Microcig that i tryed in July and couldn't hold liquid, I love all my clearomizers. I actually got 2 carto-tanks that have been resting for a good while because im so happy with the clearo's and even the ego-c still. I have tryed the Boge carto and liked enough to order 50, but i will always be using a clearomizer of some sort.

 

[Dana A]

My opinion on clearomizers is that I hate them. I use VV so I can turn it up when need be. So far the clearos I have tried don't agree with this practice.