your opinion on e-cig use by minors on Youtube

[HowlingBadger]

I wish this was a case of whether or not it was ACCEPTABLE for underaged kids to vape. The fact is, many underaged kids and teens are addicted to cigarettes. If using a pv could get them off of cigarettes, then its a potential life saved. For i this realon i believe it should be acceptable for underaged teens to vape to help sto psmoking.

Unfortunately, thats not what its about. This is about whether these kids should publicly brag about what theyre doing and that they're cheating the system (Which is what all these videos amount to really). All the fda/health committes/government needs to say is that vaping was allowing kids and teens to access nicotine and boom. Banned.

Basically, i feel kids should be allowed to vape as an alternative to smoking if theyre already addicted, but they should do it privately, and definitely not flaunt it on youtube. Flag 'em.

 

[Myk]

I don't think kids should start out vaping. If a kid is smoking it would be better that they vaped.

The problem with going on YT and flagging is what Google will do is set up a bot and all e-cig videos that bot finds will be removed. I've heard reports they were already doing that with tobacco so all you will be doing is giving them an excuse to extend it to vaping.
If you want all e-cigs removed from YT flag away.

 

[nansc]

If nicotine is a drug it shouldn't be used by minors.They can't buy cigarettes.Why give the FDA more ammunition.

 

[Centurion]

It's not about protecting minors for the FDA, despite words and appearances. For the FDA it is about revenue. That is what they want, they want to figure out some sort of a taxation regime and ascribe to personal vaporizers the same proportional per dollar sale share of blame for the health conditions that the AMA has successfully pinned on smoking. How to avoid that? I don't know. I can tell you that I had a pack a day habit for two decades, having only quit for periods of time ranging from days to a few months, but no longer than that. I started using my PV around Thanksgiving. I fell off the wagon one time and bought a carton of roll-your-owns, you know the chain store that 'leases' the rolling machine in the back of the store so it's 'legal' to walk out of a store with a carton of smokes, rolled, for thirty bucks instead of the $80-110 it would cost at any other store. That RYO outfit got raided and shut down by the way a month ago by the way, heh. Anyway, I puffed that carton down in a week or two, but since then, and all this calendar year, not a single cigarette. No combustion of tobacco. And I am certain that as much as I and my lungs are rejoicing over that, Phillip Morris and the taxman are crying just as hard. .... 'em.

 

[Trilly]

OK, I know what I am about to type will have split reactions but I'm thick skinned and stand by my beleifs.

I think these videos should be judged on an individual basis. If there was a verified teen (you cannot always tell the age of a person by looking at them) posting a video basically saying 'wow this is so cool, every kid in the world should try this' then yes, I would say that video should be removed, however if there was a minor who posted a video saying that they had a nicotine addiction, had tried to quit but couldn't but had found a safer way then that video should stay.

Kids will find a way regardless of what a parent does, unless you lock your child away and have complete control 24/7 they are going to find out about the world and all the things we as adults may consider wrong, educating them with facts so they have the information to make informed choices.

Also people are looking at what is illegal for age limits in their home countries, it is not the same in every country and different cultures have different age limits and standards, some people consider it horrific for children as young as 12 to be married and have a family of their own by 14 where as in some countries that is the way it is and we should respect their culture. I'm not saying it is right or wrong but it is different to the culture and beliefs I have been raised with and I respect that there are different rules in other countries and I respect their culture and belief, I do not have a goddess given right to say my way is better than anyone elses. I wouldn't expect (though I may be wrong) for a post of a British teenagers 18th birthday that shows teens drinking alcohol to be taken down as someone in another country where the legal age limit for drinking alcohol is 21 but I would respect their right to deem it inappropriate.

That is the nature of the beast when it comes to global forums, some people only see the infringement when the rules in their home country are different to those of the people that have posted.

I do think more needs to be done with regards verifying ages, the reason I say is my 20yr old sister was picked up by the police and accused of playing truant from school, it was resolved with my father taking her driving licence to the police station and she received an immediate appology along with a complaints form but I was glad they were being diligant (just to clarify, in the uk we do not have a form of id system here nor is it a requirement to carry id at all times).

I cannot vote on this poll as there isn't a button for my answer, either way we are all entitled to our own opinion and are own cultural beliefs.

Thank you for reading

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

Kids_will_do_it_no_matter_what....

If_it_keeps_them_off_the_15_year_path_I_went_down--good_on_them.

 

[chrisj3982]

I'd rather see kids (they are going to do it regardless what age restrictions are put on purchasing) vaping than smoking, but that's my opinion


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[DeadbeatJeff]

bottom line: Rampant and blatant underage use is exactly the ammunition they need to .... us all over. Period.

Obviously would much rather have kids vaping than smoking, but these little uns need to keep it on the DL, as we used to say back when it wasn't cool to post videos of yourself smoking weed and vaping and... whatever they're posting. Then again, when I was in HS there was no internet to speak of, not really.

These young kids today have no discretion, talk about drugs on FB, and generally need to get smacked by someone who knows better.

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

I don't think kids should start out vaping. If a kid is smoking it would be better that they vaped.

The problem with going on YT and flagging is what Google will do is set up a bot and all e-cig videos that bot finds will be removed. I've heard reports they were already doing that with tobacco so all you will be doing is giving them an excuse to extend it to vaping.
If you want all e-cigs removed from YT flag away.

Is this fear mongering, or is there tangible evidence?

 

[Lucky1384]

Obviously don't agree with minors using them, but also don't agree that they should be taken down. If I caught my kids vaping, I would punish them just the same as if I caught them smoking. For me it's a discipline thing, it's not against the law for them to use them, so no crime is being committed. Should we force the taking down of videos of kids misbehaving in other ways? I don't see where that line would be drawn.

I just watched a video clip show including lots of kids misbehaving, not breaking the law. As much as I wouldn't want to see a kid vaping, there are far worse videos out there.

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

Obviously don't agree with minors using them, but also don't agree that they should be taken down. If I caught my kids vaping, I would punish them just the same as if I caught them smoking. For me it's a discipline thing, it's not against the law for them to use them, so no crime is being committed. Should we force the taking down of videos of kids misbehaving in other ways? I don't see where that line would be drawn.

I just watched a video clip show including lots of kids misbehaving, not breaking the law. As much as I wouldn't want to see a kid vaping, there are far worse videos out there.

...when they start citing youtube vids in Senate subcommittee as a pretext to limit our access to supplies...

 

[Kr3wsk8er]

This thread makes me want to punch my own face.

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

This thread makes me want to punch my own face.

be sure to have someone record it

and put it on youtube

 

[treyb]

I wish I had never touched a cig in my life, and I hate to see people so young getting into nicotine. I started really young and would do anything to go back and to have never started.

 

[Kr3wsk8er]

be sure to have someone record it

and put it on youtube

Only if it can't get flagged and taken down. Lol, I did not have time to post my stance on it at the time, as for my original post I did not mean to come off as a troll my good sir.

I personally would like minors to stop vaping altogether. It is one more excuse for everyone to look poorly upon vaping, and our community, and then what I assume will follow is stricter laws, ordinances and regulation. I am not okay and will not support the downfall of this hobby I so much love. So I stand and agree with getting the videos taken down. Now as far as teens that are smoking, I'll admit I was one of them I started smoking at 13 and was able to just able to kick the habit here 10 years later. Should teens be able to use e-ciggs to get off of the real ones? No. Plain and simple. This is not a nicotine replacement therapy at least by our governments standards. Give that minor the patch, the gum, whatever have you under a doctors prescription. And yes they give them out. That's my 2cents. I do not care that our vaping looks "cool" to minors or appealing and could be an easy alternative. Just like sex and alcohol is portrayed "cool" or "appealing" in movies, Guess what? It is for adults that truly understand the consequences of their actions. And that there may or may not be repercussions to their actions. And some of us adults even manage to foul it up quite a bit.

 

[ej1024]

This is a critical subject, I don't care what they do,its their life and money,but I just hope that they vape RESPONSIBLY, I think all this bad raps about VAPING is due to the facts that's people just vape TO play, I already started a forum on this, smokers should use vaping as an alternative to SMOKING, non smokers shouldn't VAPE because they are the one that do it IRRESPONSIBLY..im just saying

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[etchie]

I would keep them up. Nobody is going to have a video banned because a minor is smoking in it. Nobody would think twice. At this point, if all videos of minors vaping were removed, it would only be to make vaping look better in the eyes of the FDA, CDC, etc. Sure, that would be more convenient, but the entire reason I don't want vaping banned in public is that I don't think the government should have the right to restrict that. I'm not looking to further restrict what activity can be shown in YouTube videos either.

 

[DKP#]

Kids shouldn't vaping. The long term health risks are unknown.
However, I'm against censorship.
What would be next? Vaping reviews?

 

[SynC]

Usually I won't care or even think about it. But it's their life..

 

[Deeo]

I think they should be taken down because if anything is influencing young kids to vape is other young kids on the internet doing tricks with the vaper etc, even if they are using no nic. However i have no problem with under age teens who were smoking cigarettes switching to vaping. These kids will smoke if they want to and there is not to much we can do about it. It be better to vape than smoke. Just keep these teen vaping videos of tricks etc off the internet. There is nothing cool about starting this habit if you were never a smoker to begin with.