I have noticing a few friends that have been vaping, but the funny thing is, they've never smoked a cigarette in their life. I know they've all smoked hookah before, but I thought it was funny, in fact a little weird, that these guys would invest so much into an e-cigarette even thought they're not trying to quit smoking. One of them even said that it was like a personal hookah. So I was wondering what was your guys' stand on this view?
Your Thoughts on Non-Smokers Turned Vapers?
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Are they vaping juice with nic or 0mg nic? I guess if they are just vaping do to liking the experience and the flavors its not that bad.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend that anyone start vaping juice with nicotine if they did not smoke unless they were addicted to nicotine due to another tobacco product like snus or chew. I posted a thread about a local vendor that I go to frequently. The person had quit smoking successfully for a long time. He stopped in and asked if he should pick up vaping even though he had not smoked in a long time. The employee advised him that if he didn't feel the need to go back to smoking than it probably wouldn't be a good idea.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend that anyone start vaping juice with nicotine if they did not smoke unless they were addicted to nicotine due to another tobacco product like snus or chew. I posted a thread about a local vendor that I go to frequently. The person had quit smoking successfully for a long time. He stopped in and asked if he should pick up vaping even though he had not smoked in a long time. The employee advised him that if he didn't feel the need to go back to smoking than it probably wouldn't be a good idea.
I don't think it's a good idea to vape with NIC juice if you aren't addicted to nicotine. Non NIC juice would be OK, though. But, why? Why start an addiction that you don't have. (Wish I took my own advise 46 or so years ago!)
I have never experienced this. I don't know why someone who doesn't smoke would bother buying an e-cigarette. It makes no sense to me at all.
I would personally discourage it for anyone who doesn't smoke. As much as I love vaping and will work hard to get my smoking friends and family to switch, I would never suggest a non-smoker pick up the habit. Doesn't matter whether they use Nicotine or not....there's just no sense in it, IMHO.
I would personally discourage it for anyone who doesn't smoke. As much as I love vaping and will work hard to get my smoking friends and family to switch, I would never suggest a non-smoker pick up the habit. Doesn't matter whether they use Nicotine or not....there's just no sense in it, IMHO.
It seems if they are dead set on smoking or something similar, then vaping is fine.
But there isn't any reason to start up in the first place.
Really I find e-cigs to be way more similar to hookah than cigarettes. Vaporizing the nic, plenty of flavors about, no combustion. Dare I say e-cigs give us more options than hookahs (and got rid of those stinky dangerous coals).
But there isn't any reason to start up in the first place.
Really I find e-cigs to be way more similar to hookah than cigarettes. Vaporizing the nic, plenty of flavors about, no combustion. Dare I say e-cigs give us more options than hookahs (and got rid of those stinky dangerous coals).
I hear ya.. I wouldn't Reccomend a non smoker to start vaping, but at least it is safer than analogs, but why?? Maybe the same reason we started smoking in the first place.. (Shrugs)
Rather see them vaping than smoking myself. It's a "vice" Some will do it for the "hipster" look, some just because they can. Not my job (or of anyone else) to say they cannot do it.
I know one person and know of another one that used to smoke a few years ago, they both quit cold turkey. They both expressed an interest in vaping as a stress reliever plus I think the hand-mouth-inhale-exhale-chill thing was still with them a bit. Doing it with no nic? I can see that. For someone who has never smoked? I don't get it and if it was someone I know I would discourage it. I mean what's the point?
I'm suspecting it's the "hipster" reason why they're starting. They see a lot of people around them doing it, see it all over facebook and instagram, and there are a lot of stores in SoCal opening up and hyping up the vape game, so there's a lot of influence around here. They are smoking 0mg nic liquids as well by the way.
I know someone who quit smoking years ago. Her husband wasn't as successful until he got into vaping. Now he makes box mods and she vapes 0 Nic liquid.
Showing support for your business is one reason I could probably go along with a non-smoker taking up vaping 0 Nicotine. After all...how can you possibly sell something to another if you won't use the product yourself?
I used to share the opinion that non-smokers should not start vaping but I have revised my feelings. Would you stop a friend from drinking alcohol if they had never had alcohol before? That can become just as large an addiction as nicotine. I know people who smoke 3 - 4 cigs in a week. I know people who smoke 2 packs a day. I also know people who drink socially and people that drink habitually.
Who are we, as a vaping community, to tell non-smokers they should not start vaping? Yes, we have found a safer alternative to our addiction and I would not push vaping on someone who showed no interest. But if someone I know shows an interest in vaping, even if they never smoked before, I would help them through the process. I would certainly educate them about the potential problems that come with nicotine addiction and the unknowns in vaping right now. But I would not tell them that they should absolutely not vape.
In the US, many people sound off about how government has stepped over the line and invaded our personal lives. Telling us how much soda we can drink in one serving, for example. How are we acting any differently if we say "Only smokers trying to quit should vape."?
Who are we, as a vaping community, to tell non-smokers they should not start vaping? Yes, we have found a safer alternative to our addiction and I would not push vaping on someone who showed no interest. But if someone I know shows an interest in vaping, even if they never smoked before, I would help them through the process. I would certainly educate them about the potential problems that come with nicotine addiction and the unknowns in vaping right now. But I would not tell them that they should absolutely not vape.
In the US, many people sound off about how government has stepped over the line and invaded our personal lives. Telling us how much soda we can drink in one serving, for example. How are we acting any differently if we say "Only smokers trying to quit should vape."?
In my opinion this might be a sign of the beginning of the turnaround of the paradigm of vaping itself. Kind of like someone discovering the satisfaction in a good cigar, pipe tobacco, hooka, or cigarettes, maybe people are starting to see the merit of vaping as a pleasurable past time. I'm a big fan of bourbon and Highbrow Perique myself, and would keep this habit even with 0 nic. It's a great combo, not to mention how awesome it feels to blow out a nice cloud of vapor.
Like SupplyDaddy says, it's a "vice", and a fairly harmless one at that (except maybe for your wallet).
I'm glad this is happening.
Like SupplyDaddy says, it's a "vice", and a fairly harmless one at that (except maybe for your wallet).
I'm glad this is happening.
Being a recovering alcoholic...I most definitely would discourage a friend from taking his first drink of alcohol! Especially if he had never tried it before!
There's a HUGE difference between discouraging a friend or family member from taking up a new habit that may come with hazards we are unaware of and making laws to punish them for making their own choices.
You're acting like discouraging a non-smoker from vaping means holding them down and taking the PV out of their hands. I can't stop someone from doing something they want to do, but I can discourage them from making a choice that may cause them negative physical effects.
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I can appreciate your stance on alcohol. Congrats on your recovery.
And my point seems to coincide with yours. I would indeed explain the potential problems but I would not insist that only current nicotine users be allowed to vape. I do not agree with allowing only a certain cross-section of society to be allowed to partake of an otherwise legal activity. If vaping is legal to those over 18 years old then who am I to insist that non-smokers over 18 not even try it? I would not discourage but rather explain the pros and cons of vaping. I would provide whatever information I could and support their decision either way after that.
I was not implying that I would physically prevent someone from vaping, but rather that I see no reason to insist that vaping be made available only to those currently addicted to nicotine.
Most vapers started out smoking. I would rather see someone start out vaping than see them start out smoking. As long as someone is an adult, they should be able to decide if they are going to take up ANY habit. Educate them on what you KNOW not what you have HEARD. I have researched the ingredients. Of my e-liquid, including the flavorings. I KNOW the supposed risks of nicotine and the research showing the benefits. Nictotine outside of cigarettes is much less addictive.
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If someone is of age and wants to start vaping instead of smoking, Im ok with it.
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tobaccoharmreduction.
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Can it be abused? Yes. Can caffeine be abused? Yes. Carbohydrates are abused more in established countries more than tobacco ever was, and it has affected us so much that there are now about 6 types, yet no one protests against higher glucose levels in our processed food. But Im starting to ramble
If someone is of age and wants to start vaping instead of smoking, Im ok with it.
I was just talking to my non-smoker friend that vapes about this today and he asked me "how is doing 0mg different than doing hookah" and I really had no intelligent response to that. Anyone?
Persons who never smoked taking up vaping...I'm going to assume that these persons are over age 18. In that case I have no problem with them taking up vaping. Adults are going to do as they please. However, if asked for my opinion I would advise use of 0mg juices.
Minors on the other hand have no business vaping, should not be sold juice 0mg or otherwise, nor sold PVs under any circumstances.
Minors on the other hand have no business vaping, should not be sold juice 0mg or otherwise, nor sold PVs under any circumstances.
This is my husband.... He was what I call a scavenger smoker, if he is around other people smoking he will sometimes bum one but he never enhaled, treats it like a cigar... But he has never had an addiction or a need to smoke... Now that I quit smoking he wants his own PV... Because "it smells so good and looks cool." 
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