gunkier?? is that a real word???
It's as real of a word as "crusties" is when describing the hard crust like buildup PG/VG based NETs deposit on coils.
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It's as real of a word as "crusties" is when describing the hard crust like buildup PG/VG based NETs deposit on coils.
I still can't believe you extracted the very ones I will try to extract next! What a wonderful assortment.
I agree the the lower temperature. In fact, some of my extractions turned out with a better taste/flavor using the cold method, using long time periods, then doing them using the hot method.....
I've kind of settled in on 130F for 5 days for cigars and three days for pipes. I'm using a hot plate now with a covered pot because it seems to provide a steadier temperature. I'm cycling as well. I turn it on early in the morning and unplug it at night. I haven't tried the PGA methods yet. I let it all cool down and then put a jar in the microwave for 30 seconds and filter through the coffee filters that came with the Aeropress. Then same program with an Alstrohm 2.5.
Gonna try the PGA after I sample some of Str8's work.
Gonna try the PGA after I sample some of Str8's work.
Recently I got a sample of The Raven from NET.com: the Raven ...really dug it and ordered a big bottle which is still hanging out getting ready. It seemed to hit all the good things being complex but well blended flavors. Strong but, not overbearing.
Looking around P&C filtering by wrapper origin then filler origin, for a cigar that fit Clay's description I ran across this: Partagas 1845 Extra Oscuro - PipesandCigars.com which appears to have the same tastes. What do you all think?
Thanks!
Looking around P&C filtering by wrapper origin then filler origin, for a cigar that fit Clay's description I ran across this: Partagas 1845 Extra Oscuro - PipesandCigars.com which appears to have the same tastes. What do you all think?
Thanks!
Since I like the flavor of drambuie ( the liquour) I thought it would make for a good "flavorant"...
to see if it would reduce down a bit, I placed an ounce in a small ceramic cup in the microwave... heated it up for about 40 seconds... the alcohol evapped almost instantly, then a few seconds later the water began to boil off...
which left a syrup... smelled heavenly but when it cooled off it pretty much crystalized... never realized drambuie had that much sugar in it ( Im guessing 30 -40% sugars/honey) so much for using it as an additive to make things tasty.....
to see if it would reduce down a bit, I placed an ounce in a small ceramic cup in the microwave... heated it up for about 40 seconds... the alcohol evapped almost instantly, then a few seconds later the water began to boil off...
which left a syrup... smelled heavenly but when it cooled off it pretty much crystalized... never realized drambuie had that much sugar in it ( Im guessing 30 -40% sugars/honey) so much for using it as an additive to make things tasty.....
BTW, has anyone here tried using liquours in the process of flavoring juices?? and if so, what were the results?
I wonder how Lazarus vintage extracts the cognac flavors for their juices?
I wonder how Lazarus vintage extracts the cognac flavors for their juices?
Since I like the flavor of drambuie ( the liquour) I thought it would make for a good "flavorant"...
to see if it would reduce down a bit, I placed an ounce in a small ceramic cup in the microwave... heated it up for about 40 seconds... the alcohol evapped almost instantly, then a few seconds later the water began to boil off...
which left a syrup... smelled heavenly but when it cooled off it pretty much crystalized... never realized drambuie had that much sugar in it ( Im guessing 30 -40% sugars/honey) so much for using it as an additive to make things tasty.....
I'm sitting here wondering if those sugar crystals would pose a problem in filtering even before it was "boiled" down.....
Still trying to catch up on this thread. Might even go back and take notes...
Very new to making my own NET's. Using eight weeks cold maceration, and triple filtering using funnel and lab papers, I have found a few that I really like.
All of which came from pipesandcigars.com.
HPCS Trout Stream - sweet and mild. Cavendish Blend with Butterscotch top note. I am really enjoying this one.
Peter Stokkebye 84 Turkish - more Virginia than Oriental, still smooth tobacco flavor.
H&H Louisiana Red - delightful flavor. smooth and rich.
These are all very new, and some may change up on me in the weeks and months to come. I have a total of 11 extractions from my first batch. If I can get three of four 'success' flavors out of this first trial, I would consider that a win
Very new to making my own NET's. Using eight weeks cold maceration, and triple filtering using funnel and lab papers, I have found a few that I really like.
All of which came from pipesandcigars.com.
HPCS Trout Stream - sweet and mild. Cavendish Blend with Butterscotch top note. I am really enjoying this one.
Peter Stokkebye 84 Turkish - more Virginia than Oriental, still smooth tobacco flavor.
H&H Louisiana Red - delightful flavor. smooth and rich.
These are all very new, and some may change up on me in the weeks and months to come. I have a total of 11 extractions from my first batch. If I can get three of four 'success' flavors out of this first trial, I would consider that a win
Hey guys. Just throwing some progress out there on a few blends I been working on.
Solani Aged Burley Flake #656 @ 4%
Dunhill The Royal Yacht @ 4%
Gawith and Hoggarth Dark Birds Eye (190 Ethanol Extract) @ 4%
FA Bitter Wizard @ 1% (measured @ 30 drops/ml)
FA Oak Wood @ .5% (measured @ 30 drops/ml)
60/40 pg/vg @ 12ml/nic Kayfun Lite v2 Dual Air w/8-32 i.d. spaced coil @ 0.95 ohm KGD cotton 16w
Made up 55 ml bottle. For me this is one of the best tobacco smok's I've mixed up. I can't stay out of it long enough to let it age. But it keeps getting better as I vape it. I'm gonna have to mix up a couple of big bottles so I can put some back for 6 months or so. After finding some blends that I left over the summer, while taking a break from the net's, I found that these blends totally change over longer periods, say 6 months versus a one or 2 month rest. And for the better I must say. Have a few days off over the weekend so I'm going to be mixing. Also have 4 heated ethanol extracts to get separated and into the freezer to start their journey. A 50/50 blend of Peter Stokkebye 84 Turkish and Blending- Smyrna, G.L.Pease Union Square, G.L.Pease Jackknife, and La Brumeuse Semois - Shag Cut. I did these at a lower temp steep. First I did a 24hr cold soak and then went to 125 degrees in the dehydrator for 84 hrs. and now they've been cold resting since Monday morning. I'll separate, coffee filter, bottle and put in freezer today.
An observation on the FA Oak Wood and FA Bitter Wizard. I've only used them in the one blend but I believe they're going to be game changers for me. FA has nailed this Oak Wood flavor. It smells and tastes exactly like fresh split red oak (if you've ever smelled a freshly split, pile of Red Oak) and the Bitter Wizard does exactly what it claims to do, reduces any sweetness in the blend. Just as a little (on the tongue) taste test I sampled both individually to get some idea how they actually taste and then combined them together for a little taste. Mixed, they were great together. I may actually try using the Oak Wood at a little higher % or as a stand alone, but the BW @ 1% seems about right, I'll probably sample them up to 2%, but that may be too high. Disclaimer: Of course taste is subjective and ymmv! But this works great for me. These lower percentages seem to get me closer to a real tobacco smoke, which is what I'm chasing, and a considerable improvement in wick and coil life.
Here is a couple others I mixed but have about blown through 55 ml of them before they've aged properly. lol!
American Spirit Organic (Gold) @4%
Orlik Golden Sliced @3%
Blending-Dark Fired Kentucky @3%
Gawith,Hoggarth Dark Birds Eye (190 Ethanol Extract) @2%
60/40 pg/vg @ 12ml/nic
Solani Aged Burley Flake #656 @ 3%
Dunhill The Royal Yacht @ 3%
Samuel Gawith 1792 @ 4% (190 Ethanol Extract)
60/40 pg/vg @ 12ml/nic
^This one is a favorite!^ The SG 1792 is just fantastic!
Solani Aged Burley Flake #656 @ 4%
Dunhill The Royal Yacht @ 4%
Gawith and Hoggarth Dark Birds Eye (190 Ethanol Extract) @ 4%
FA Bitter Wizard @ 1% (measured @ 30 drops/ml)
FA Oak Wood @ .5% (measured @ 30 drops/ml)
60/40 pg/vg @ 12ml/nic Kayfun Lite v2 Dual Air w/8-32 i.d. spaced coil @ 0.95 ohm KGD cotton 16w
Made up 55 ml bottle. For me this is one of the best tobacco smok's I've mixed up. I can't stay out of it long enough to let it age. But it keeps getting better as I vape it. I'm gonna have to mix up a couple of big bottles so I can put some back for 6 months or so. After finding some blends that I left over the summer, while taking a break from the net's, I found that these blends totally change over longer periods, say 6 months versus a one or 2 month rest. And for the better I must say. Have a few days off over the weekend so I'm going to be mixing. Also have 4 heated ethanol extracts to get separated and into the freezer to start their journey. A 50/50 blend of Peter Stokkebye 84 Turkish and Blending- Smyrna, G.L.Pease Union Square, G.L.Pease Jackknife, and La Brumeuse Semois - Shag Cut. I did these at a lower temp steep. First I did a 24hr cold soak and then went to 125 degrees in the dehydrator for 84 hrs. and now they've been cold resting since Monday morning. I'll separate, coffee filter, bottle and put in freezer today.
An observation on the FA Oak Wood and FA Bitter Wizard. I've only used them in the one blend but I believe they're going to be game changers for me. FA has nailed this Oak Wood flavor. It smells and tastes exactly like fresh split red oak (if you've ever smelled a freshly split, pile of Red Oak) and the Bitter Wizard does exactly what it claims to do, reduces any sweetness in the blend. Just as a little (on the tongue) taste test I sampled both individually to get some idea how they actually taste and then combined them together for a little taste. Mixed, they were great together. I may actually try using the Oak Wood at a little higher % or as a stand alone, but the BW @ 1% seems about right, I'll probably sample them up to 2%, but that may be too high. Disclaimer: Of course taste is subjective and ymmv! But this works great for me. These lower percentages seem to get me closer to a real tobacco smoke, which is what I'm chasing, and a considerable improvement in wick and coil life.
Here is a couple others I mixed but have about blown through 55 ml of them before they've aged properly. lol!
American Spirit Organic (Gold) @4%
Orlik Golden Sliced @3%
Blending-Dark Fired Kentucky @3%
Gawith,Hoggarth Dark Birds Eye (190 Ethanol Extract) @2%
60/40 pg/vg @ 12ml/nic
Solani Aged Burley Flake #656 @ 3%
Dunhill The Royal Yacht @ 3%
Samuel Gawith 1792 @ 4% (190 Ethanol Extract)
60/40 pg/vg @ 12ml/nic
^This one is a favorite!^ The SG 1792 is just fantastic!
just a quick reply to a tobacco co. you mentioned. I wish the Gawith-Hoggarth company would make available a long missing form of there "strong" rope tobaccos soon. I have heard from others that have extracted them, in the past, that they are wonderful. Unfortunately they have been unavailable for some time from various dealers.
Thanks for this (& your blends!..), I've been wondering if the Oak Wood would be worth experimenting with...think I'll get some!
I've just been disappointed after looking on the tobacco site (in UK) that I use...They've stopped selling 5g. 'samples' of the single varietal 'blending tobaccos'. I wanted some more Latakia...I can still get 50g. .....!
I wonder if it's just a seasonal thing or if it's just made in limited supply and gets scooped up quick. I'd love to get my hands on the G,W Black Irish X and a couple others, too.
That's the one I've been itching for too. Several others at P&C are also Backordered that I want to try.
I'm filtering this one tonight: Sutliff Voodoo Queen - PipesandCigars.com
Interesting on the oak wood. I've been kicking around the idea of extracting my own....
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I guess you could extract wood for a flavor? Would you just whittle it into shavings and proceed like tobacco? I have considered roasting (not quite to the point of burning them), Hickory flakes to add to a tobacco extract. Nothing like building a fire in the fireplace with Hickory and then walking out on the front porch to smell that wonderful smoke it puts out. Wish I could get that in a vape. lol!
I'd do maybe quarter inch toasted white oak sticks in ethanol, then reduce as we do with tobacco. Toast them at 400 is to caramelize the natural sugars, then follow the same basic process, using the finished extract as an additive.
Think it'd work?
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I know it works for making flavored schnapps,but it takes almost a year to get the flavor out.
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There is an old thread on the subject of oak flavored tobacco. I will post a link if I manage to find it. As I recall, there are small oak barrels you could buy to soak your liquid. For a smokey taste, I use Flavor Art's Black Fire Tobacco. All it takes is .5%.
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