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[JeremyR]

The tencel isn't bad it's very much like ramie but seems to wick better for me and isn't as stiff. Part of my problem with it is I just don't get it to work great, but dice57 uses it in all his stuff now. Maybe I just need to use more of it, a denser wick. I'm just use to using hemp and rayon so that stiff stuff is foreign to me now. I guess you could say the stiffness resembles silica. It seems evident that different attys work differently with wicks. Rami I had working great in a protank build, it's a very simple straight shot build so I'm sure the tencel would work great in those types of builds. And easy too.

Here's a build I did with tencel, my first build on the flashi. Parallel 32g 1.4 ohms, 6v on the zmax v3 stacked, About 22w was a good vape. I think mainly the problem i had was I hadn't got the feeder wicks on the flashi down yet. I'll give tencel a try again later.

I think I needed more in the coil, a thicker wick than I used here - the tencel and rayon seem to benifit from having some shoulders as opposed to cotton... Cause my tencel keeps ending up too loose in the coil.

 

[dogcat]

been looking, cant find any more places that have it in stock.

wicked up my dream bt804 with it, so much goodness. No more flooding, great flavor, lots of vapor. Went heavy on it this time, used some 32 awg kanthal to thread my coil. works perfect!

I order some here, but it's in canada

Tencel® (Top) : The Fibre Garden, Fibres, Yarns, Dyes, Spinning Wheels & Much More!

 

[dogcat]

The tencel isn't bad it's very much like ramie but seems to wick better and isn't as stiff. Part of my problem with it is I just don't get it to work great, but dice57 uses it in all his stuff now. Maybe I just need to use more of it, a denser wick. I'm just use to using hemp and rayon so that stiff stuff is foreign to me now. I guess you could say the stiffness resembles silica.

Here's a build I did with tencel, my first build on the flashi. Parallel 32g 1.4 ohms, 6v on the zmax v3 stacked, About 20-24w was a good vape. I think mainly I hadn't got the feeder wicks on the flashi down yet. I'll give tencel a try again later.

I think I needed more in the coil, a thicker wick than I used here -

I'm such an idiot, I went ahead an ordered some tencel top without reading the thread to the end. And then I see that it is not like the rayon from the bottles which looked so awesome. And like you say, very similar to Ramie, which I just got yesterday. I tried the Ramie today on a vertical coil build on my kayfun,and it was not really working out that great. I was though able to wrap some ramie around the coil,and then some cotton around that to secure it down. (sorry, I know this is a rayon thread, but the issues will be similar) . The vape is really clean,and the taste is awesome. I am wondering if there may be some process with water that could help to unstraighten the tencel. KInd of like when I shower and comb my hair, it comes out nice and straight. But if I let it dry or use a blow dryer, it gets all curly. But I am guessing that as you said the fibre is just thicker than your bottle rayon. Dice did say that keeping it straight was the best for the ramie, so the same may apply to the tencel.

 

[JeremyR]

I kept saying I haven't tried it yet.. Well you'll have plenty of tencel & ramie to play with.. Hopefully you ordered the 3.00 sample because that's a lot already.

Oh and welcome to the forum dogcat!

I Always read the last page first in a thread.

 

[JeremyR]

sorry guys i missed these posts as I was busy playing with vape mail..

Looks like cotton, I think JeremyR said it's labeled on the bottles. I could be mistaken though.

No it's not labeled on the bottles.

Cracked open my two Spring Valley melatonin bottles (5mg), and to my disappointment, both were cotton. I desperately then opened my fiancee's Nature Made magnesium to the same disappointment. I'm so bummed :-(

It's a crap shoot.. Dang I thought I had one there. They must randomly change to what ever they have at the time. Are you sure the one on the left is cotton? Doesn't look chunky from here and a little different texture. The melatonin was 1 or 3 mg, doubt it matters though probably a more accurateeadure would be the production dates.

 

[JeremyR]

on my first build with the taifun i stuffed the wick in, it would have been way too much for cotton and it vaped great.
i rewicked it using the same amount as i would with cotton and it wound up flooding a little. rewicked it with quite a bit third time and is vaping great. i think being that the wick is always exposed to juice in a taifun, that tencel wicks so well that maybe it works better to add more than you would with cotton so it reigns it in a little. with the kayfuns, the wick is not always submersed and when i wicked it like you would with cotton it vaped great.
idk...need more feedback i guess

I'm finding more is better Brian. Last wick with rayon I use twice as much as I thought I needed. And it worked great still. I think you want the tencel pretty thick so its pretty tight in the coil if you wick it dry. It's always seems to shrink a little after it breaks in.

 

[JeremyR]

Mine from WC Mercantile arrived too. Tastes smoother and cleaner than cotton. Still trying to figure out how much to use in my RM2 though. Vapor is definitely thicker. I'm having trouble putting the Tencile in my coil though. Maybe should do a little larger coil than my current one that's a little less than 2mm I think. Hmm...

Dice has great luck using ramie wet. Ramie is similar to tencel fibers. That may help you get get it through the coil

 

[brianc11111]

after several days now, im getting the hang of tencel.
in the kayfuns it is great, no issues whatsoever. doesnt matter what ohm coil you have. just dont put too little in the coil.
in the taifun though, below .6 is dry hit city if you take longer hits..but i believe that is just how the taifun is. but its still better than cotton. with cotton i wouldnt go below low .7's.
jeremy you are right on the mark when you say to slightly to moderately overfill coil with it.
ive found that tencel doesnt like bends in it. so perhaps it would be optimal in a genny or a vertical dripper with deep wells.
i know in the kayfuns it is fantastic..
ive also noticed that the wick does not get gunky and burnt. hell the coil doesnt get gunked up either. that alone is pretty amazing.
in the taifun with cotton after a tank full id start seeing dark fluid easing back into tank..not any so far with tencel.
with certain builds this stuff is fantastic. going to have to get some rayon balls to try. ( no jokes plz)lol

 

[Uncletattoowhat]

OK, so i just bought mine from Man-Made Fibers - Mielke's Fiber Arts. luckily for me, they accepted PayPal and i had some money sitting there lol. hopefully it comes soon. i may pay it forward and send some samples out to interested parties who want to try it and don't want to commit to the price tag yet.

dang, the site i bought mine from just emailed me yesterday saying they had a huge order come in and all their stock is out until next week lol. they did however offer to send me the rayon instead. i replied that i could wait, but now im wondering if i should email them again to see if they can do a half and half order. hmmm.....

 

[JeremyR]

jeremy you are right on the mark when you say to slightly to moderately overfill coil with it.
ive found that tencel doesnt like bends in it. so perhaps it would be optimal in a genny or a vertical dripper with deep wells.
i know in the kayfuns it is fantastic..
ive also noticed that the wick does not get gunky and burnt. hell the coil doesnt get gunked up either. that alone is pretty amazing.
in the taifun with cotton after a tank full id start seeing dark fluid easing back into tank..not any so far with tencel.
with certain builds this stuff is fantastic. going to have to get some rayon balls to try. ( no jokes plz)lol

Yeah it seems to work great in a protank with a good overwick. Yeah more than you think you need for sure... It doesn't gunk because the coil isn't drying out causing the caramelization of the juice. you want to get some jokes flying.. You know where else we may find rayon in the right cut is 100% rayon tampons.. Hard to find though.. Most are a blend, lol.

In the tiafun you probably need a little less in the wick holes.. May require a *slightly smaller diameter coil

dang, the site i bought mine from just emailed me yesterday saying they had a huge order come in and all their stock is out until next week lol. they did however offer to send me the rayon instead. i replied that i could wait, but now im wondering if i should email them again to see if they can do a half and half order. hmmm.....

Man 8 oz is a ton!! The rayon should be a finer fiber and it won't be as stiff as tencel but It is still *top. I think they only have 8oz sizes right..

Dang their sold out again.. There must be a lot of lurkers and visitor viewers ordering this! Probably all the people from redit... Or the ecf idea snatchers.. Running back to their respective areas of the web parroting it as their big find... With no credit to ecf or this thread....

No I'm not on redit only liked the sig banner they had..

 

[Cuando]

Just got a 4oz bag of tencel in the mail. Thought I'd bought a Marilyn Monroe wig when I opened the bag. If I end up liking this stuff, I may never need to buy more. 4oz is a hell of a lot of tencel.

 

[reeftivo]

Just got a 4oz bag of tencel in the mail. Thought I'd bought a Marilyn Monroe wig when I opened the bag. If I end up liking this stuff, I may never need to buy more. 4oz is a hell of a lot of tencel.

where did you order from?

 

[JeremyR]

Yeah 1 oz is more than enough to play with for a while .. I still prefer the rayon batting, so you may want to try those balls.

Anyone wondering - *top is the preparation. There are many ways a fiber can be prepared. Top signifies a continuous fiber strand. Each individual fiber is Like a thread. The rayon I had is more like a web of short length fibers crimped for waviness and cling together. The rayon balls look promising but we won't know till someone gets them in hand to see the actual cut.

 

[Thayamax]

I've been watching this thread from the beginning and would love to try rayon wicks. The tencel top looks a little strange and hard to manage. I've been searching for rayon balls, but mostly what I've found are large quantities of 4000 balls that cost $30 and up. I found one source of 1000 balls for $15 but they charge $10 for shipping. Can't win for losing.

 

[JeremyR]

Were working on it theya... The tencel *top fiber is similar to ramie top.. You make a wick that kinda turns out like silica, but different. Tencel is not as stiff, when wet, as ramie. Ramie gets pretty ridgid.

Just switched juices in my rayon wicked tank from one of my strongest to a subtle one. Couple vapes and I taste none of the stronger juice at all.!!!

 

[Cuando]

where did you order from?

I got mine from Paradise Fibers. They have a few different kinds, I got the tencel top.

 

[JeremyR]

Their nebbs look good. Anyone care to try them and let us know?? Post pics.

Tencel Blending Nepps Small dyeable chunks awesome for blending color and texture Paradise Fibers

Look at my question and answer that came in today* in the question tab.. This nebb sounds good!

 

[JeremyR]

I have another question submitted with them on the nepps. Hopefully an answer by tomorrow.

 

[BobC]

Jeremy, looking forward to you posting the results of your research on a product that would be certified to be safe, specially with all the positive results posted

 

[Loopy1224]

Hi all I have been following this thread since yesterday and am very intrigued. Thanks to Jeremy and others who have been doing so much research. I bought 8 oz of Nepps and will let you all know what i think. If they don't work out i'll add them to my pound of Ramie, buy a spinning wheel and make some yarn. Anybody interested in buying a sweater?


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