510 is Pathetic.
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Am I the only one? I doubt it. The claws in my chest pull at me most of the time. The claws don't like to relent. 510's do nothing, other than a minor distraction to ease the suffering. A little vapor instead of relief.
801's and 901's are not much better.
KR808D-1's provide flavor, but only a few minutes of relief.
Who is willing to admit that the present alternatives are sadly lacking?
Not many, I suspect.
My quest continues.
Rick.
801's and 901's are not much better.
KR808D-1's provide flavor, but only a few minutes of relief.
Who is willing to admit that the present alternatives are sadly lacking?
Not many, I suspect.
My quest continues.
Rick.
Ya know this may be the first time I've seen this, I've used it a lot but don't see it much on forums.
No complaints about 510's 901's or 801's. I use all 3 at different times and find them all to work great. The only E-cig I found to be as you described was the 1st one I ever bought from SE and after getting screwed by their inferior over priced product I almost wrote off e-cigs as complete BS. Luckily after seeing some video's and visiting some forums I took the plunge once again with TW with a 510 and have not had an analog since.
I got sick of the short battery life and decided to get some mods VP-2,SB,Protege,Prodigy V2(preorder) for 5 volts and Super T SS((still waiting). The mods give me even more satisfaction all around than the regular batteries by far in all respects.
I've been a smoker for 26 years and have not had one in over 3 months without a single craving for one at all so I'm very thankful for the products I have used,continue to use and will use minus SE. The 510 is what changed my negative initial experience to a positive one.
Derek
I got sick of the short battery life and decided to get some mods VP-2,SB,Protege,Prodigy V2(preorder) for 5 volts and Super T SS((still waiting). The mods give me even more satisfaction all around than the regular batteries by far in all respects.
I've been a smoker for 26 years and have not had one in over 3 months without a single craving for one at all so I'm very thankful for the products I have used,continue to use and will use minus SE. The 510 is what changed my negative initial experience to a positive one.
Derek
Present alternatives seem sadly lacking for you. When I received my first e-cig (brand purposefully not included as I think brand & type are subject to personal requirements) I stopped smoking analogs then and there. A few minor cravings at first but nothing like claws in the chest. I was a 1-2/pack a day Marlboro Red or Camel filter smoker. Sometimes Newports.
I don't even like the smell of analogs anymore. It worked great for me, my condolences that it isn't working for you! Keep trying and, as I told my son, if they even help you to cut back on analogs the e-cigs are a great investment!
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I like them all!!!
My favorites are 801s,
but the cartomizer is the easiest to use out of all of them and is closest to the 510 in flavor IMO If you like 510s?
My favorites are 801s,
but the cartomizer is the easiest to use out of all of them and is closest to the 510 in flavor IMO If you like 510s?
I dont have much to compare it to, but I love the 510. I have "tested" all the ones sold in stores and malls (NJoy, Green-Cigg, and some no name Electronic Cigarette), none of them even came close to the 510.
Well i sure hope you guys are wrong i should have a new one here in the next few days
i wouldn't worry about it too much, ff. if you've tried any type of PV and found the experience satisfying, then the 510s going to be just fine for you. my only gripes with 510s are that they can be a little overbearing at 5V and the battery life isn't long enough, but that's why i make box mods for all of my PVs (Radio Shacks are everywhere and MadVapes.com is just a click away).
i mean, just by a strict, bare bones comparison: i used a 901 and 801 for three months before i got my first 510. while i love my 901s and 801s and still use them everyday, my 510s are what i reach for first. they inarguably produce more vapor and throat hit than a 901 or 801, and the only of the negative points mentioned in this thread that ring true for me is that the 510 isn't exactly the best model to get if easy flavor is what you're after. i say "easy" because you *can* get good flavor out of a 510, but it takes a bit more effort on your part (i.e., don't use the standard cart setup; try the PTB or spring-cart mods instead, both treat me really well and seriously help keep atomizers wet and tasty).
Does anybody know what e-juice manufacturer GreentipUSA.com gets theirs from? I'd like to order the juice but they only offer cartridges...
Quite frankly I agree with you Rick. The 510 is lackluster at best. So many people are all about it, and for what reason? I know a lot of people like to shake their heads at Green Smoke users, but I don't have a doubt that it will solve your problem. Any questions?
Cody.
801s and 510s living happily together here! I thought the 510s were junk but a new attie and direct dripping seemed to solve that! 801 produces the most flavour and hit, 3 drops on the attie and its good to go for about 5 minutes of vaping! 510 is more fussy. I give it 2 drops to avoid flooding but it drinks the juice and after only a few puffs requires dripping again but the hit is worth it!
Again, if most people on the forum are saying the five 10 gives great throat hit and vapor, and another person is saying it doesn't, It could mean A. user error of some sort, or B. They got a batch of parts that were faulty. Perhaps from a diff factory, perhaps a clone. Or maybe that batch of parts were made a little differently, or something.
Again keep in mind. There are many reviews from people who have tried all kinds of models, who say pretty consistent statements about the 510.
Again keep in mind. There are many reviews from people who have tried all kinds of models, who say pretty consistent statements about the 510.
"Never give up; never surrender!" [I love that line from Galaxy Quest.]
My point being that there must be an atomizer/battery/e-liquid combination that will do the trick. Anything an analog can do a PV can do better. [That reminds me of a song from Annie Get Your Gun, but I shan't sing it.]
- E-liquid: Sounds like you're not getting enough nicotine hit. What nicotine level are you using? Have you tried adjusting it upward?
- As for atomizer, I enjoy my 510 (from which I get very little throat hit) and Kr8, but my favorite is the 801 (kind of). I recently "discovered" the M201 (also a penstyle). My experience, thus far at least, is that it performs better (in throat hit and vapor) than the 801. It hits me almost as hard as the 801 on my 5V Prodigy. And that takes us to battery...
- A big battery mod (even a 3.7V one) will hit harder than an unmodified e-cig (with the possible exception of the new 600 mAh eGO, which is not a battery pack, but a unique e-cig battery). Take your favorite atomizer and attach it to the mod of your choice* and/or use a high nicotine level juice ... and this will work for you.
* These days, there are so many to choose from. Most (but not the very newest) are described in Part 5 and toward the end of Part 6 of the WWV Illustrated Guide referenced in my signature. Recommended factors to consider:
- Aesthetics: length, thickness, shape, color, designs
- Voltage: 3.7V, 5V, 6V, 7.4V
- mAh: 360 up to 3,000
- Position of the manual switch button: pressed with thumb/forefinger or pinky/ringfinger
Cody, you say you don't have any doubt that the Green Smoke will solve Rick's problem. I do. And I'm not putting down the V9 model. Leaford himself (the leading advocate of the V9) acknowledges that it has limited throat hit and flavor. What he loves about it is the unsurpassed vapor, which (unlike nicotine and throat hit) is not going to trim the claws in Rick's chest.
IM(not so H)O
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Ill admit..the perfect hit for me...is two loaded mega titans simultaneously....a KILLER HIT...hows its go?.." Twice the taste in half the time"
Ill admit..the perfect hit for me...is two loaded mega titans simultaneously....a KILLER HIT...hows its go?.." Twice the taste in half the time"
dual 6v 510s with 36mg juice does it for me
Hi, Don ... great to hear from you. I've read many of your posts, and enjoy your insight and humor.
I use mostly 36mg/ml, and it doesn't satisfy. I have some 60, but I don't feel comfortable vaping ir straight.
I got an 801 passthrough, running on my 5v 2000ma usb hub. I read several threads saying 5v is the sweet spot for flavor on the 801. What a disappointment. I experienced zero flavor except for a metalic taste. Strangely, the 801 is the only e-cig to give me a metalic taste.
I would love to get a battery mod, if I could find an atty that works for me!
This brings up an interesting point. I run my KR8's @ 2000 ma on my usb hub. On a trip, I recently forgot my hub, and had to go to a local computer store to get a hub. It was @ 500ma, and produced NO flavor and NO satisfaction.
That's one of the things that I DO like about my 510's. The switch is great!
I would love to get a Chuck or Prodigy or XHaler, if only I could find an atty (or Whole Tobacco Alkaloid, but that's a different thread) that works for me!
Rick.
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