Hey Katya....wow that seems like ages ago...Lol. Man those early cartomizer were just disastrous....Its amazing vaping wise how far we have come since then.
75W Vaporesso TARGET 2 VTC Kit with Ceramic cCELL Coil
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Hey Katya....wow that seems like ages ago...Lol. Man those early cartomizer were just disastrous....Its amazing vaping wise how far we have come since then.
Isn't it?
And now the FDA will put an end to all that and make us use those pre-February 15, 2007, models.
I guess our Burning Cartomizers--Dangerous? thread will become very popular again.
Good to see you, old timer!
I had also heard that the wire was OUTSIDE of the ceramic (can't remember where I read that now!) and I wondered how that was effective. I am very glad you are getting one next week!! I really can't wait to hear all about it. It's a fascinating concept and one I have high hopes for. I haven't been this excited about new tech in a long while!Yes, Cool. It should be much better. I wrapped the AO Ceramics with 0.1x0.5 Ribbon Kanthal. About 4 wraps made approximately 1.8Ω. But the flat wire made much better contact than regular round Kanthal could, because the AO Wick would not bend and give like a SS Mesh wick could and would, if not rolled densely enough (tight enough). I had been using no-center-hole #500 SS Mesh wicks back then. But the AO Sticks could still spit some at times. With the coil actually inside the Ceramics, this should help a lot. But I have to wonder now.
The first video released that was an Animation by Vaporesso indicated that the Sintering Process actually embedded the coil inside the Ceramics, but in the video posted today, the guy said he could see some of the wraps of the coil. I'll be able to better judge for myself by inspecting the Heads when I get my Kit. Delivery is expected on the 24th, but could be a day or two late, as it must be transferred from DHL to the U.S. Post Office. There is no longer a DHL in my area, so they swap out in the New Orleans area, and then it goes to Shreveport before coming to me. I am in Central Louisiana. Talk about going around the elbow to get to the thumb.
Heaven Gifts is getting the Vaporesso Target VTC Kit today in their warehouse!Only Kits right now, but no spare coils yet. I'll keep you updated when prices are posted, and when the (sintered
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I received my Vaporesso 75VTC Starter Kit today. I got a Black one with a Black Target Tank, a 0.2Ω Ni200 cCell Head, and a 0.9Ω Kanthal Head. I've been using the Ni200 Head for quite a few hours now.
Here are some shots from the Manual. I highlighted some important stuff and edited in some notes.
NOTE:
I divided wrong. ΩMax for 75W = (VMax)²/WMax = 9²/75 = 81/75 = 1.08Ω
So the Target Mod can deliver 75W with up to a 1.08Ω load.
That makes this an 8.333 Amp Device.
I'll start using it with a Panasonic CGR18650CH 2050mAh 10 Amp 18650 and check the performance. This 10 Amp battery should not get warm. (Note added 11-22-15)
The Heathen Vape guy was right about one thing. The Coils are visible in the Air Hole of the Ceramic. I'd say that about 1/4 to 1/2 of the wire's diameter is exposed to air and is visible. The air hole diameter is a little smaller in the Kanthal Head than in the Ni200 Head.
For you Toddle Puffers... It works great for that. If you adjust the Air Flow so that it is barely off of fully closed stops, but still not open enough to see the air holes inside, the restriction is much like a cigarette. You'd just need to adjust your Watts or Temp for a proper vape with that little air, but it worked great for me.
This Mod only adjusts in Wattage for Kanthal or Temp for Ni200. In TC Mode, there is no setting the Wattage. It is done automatically, starting at up to 75W if needed, and adjusting thereafter as necessary for a good vape. This doesn't bother me because even people who use a DNA200 device usually set the Watts all the way up to 200W and only adjust the Temp as desired. So that's what you have here... you set the Temp you want and the Target Mod does the rest.
This Mod has a Voltage Range of a stated 0V - 9V. They seem to have given a 0.9Ω Kanthal Head because 9V will allow it to work at up to 75 Watts.
I hit submit by accident, so I'll start another post.
Here are some shots from the Manual. I highlighted some important stuff and edited in some notes.
NOTE:
I divided wrong.
ΩMax for 75W = (VMax)²/WMax = 9²/75 = 81/75 = 1.08ΩSo the Target Mod can deliver 75W with up to a 1.08Ω load.
That makes this an 8.333 Amp Device.
I'll start using it with a Panasonic CGR18650CH 2050mAh 10 Amp 18650 and check the performance. This 10 Amp battery should not get warm. (Note added 11-22-15)
The Heathen Vape guy was right about one thing. The Coils are visible in the Air Hole of the Ceramic. I'd say that about 1/4 to 1/2 of the wire's diameter is exposed to air and is visible. The air hole diameter is a little smaller in the Kanthal Head than in the Ni200 Head.
For you Toddle Puffers... It works great for that. If you adjust the Air Flow so that it is barely off of fully closed stops, but still not open enough to see the air holes inside, the restriction is much like a cigarette. You'd just need to adjust your Watts or Temp for a proper vape with that little air, but it worked great for me.
This Mod only adjusts in Wattage for Kanthal or Temp for Ni200. In TC Mode, there is no setting the Wattage. It is done automatically, starting at up to 75W if needed, and adjusting thereafter as necessary for a good vape. This doesn't bother me because even people who use a DNA200 device usually set the Watts all the way up to 200W and only adjust the Temp as desired. So that's what you have here... you set the Temp you want and the Target Mod does the rest.
This Mod has a Voltage Range of a stated 0V - 9V. They seem to have given a 0.9Ω Kanthal Head because 9V will allow it to work at up to 75 Watts.
I hit submit by accident
, so I'll start another post.
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The Manual says that the Ceramic is an Aqueous Ceramic. In a very brief 10 minute search for Aqueous Ceramic, this appears to be another form of Aluminum Oxide Ceramic, or AO Ceramic, which was what I used in my AGA-T2 as 1/8" Sticks. I'm not trying to say that's what these cCell Heads are made of just yet, but the Ceramic is white, too.
The Ni200 Head was very clean with no "burn-in time", if you will. Instant clean taste of nothing but my E-Liquid.
The Target Tank is bottom-fill. I eased quite a few drops onto the Ceramic, not even a whole drop at a time with my glass eyedropper, not wanted it to run down inside and flood or cause an issue. The Manual says to let the Head soak in a Full Tank for 2 minutes before vaping, so I waited, even though I had Primed it some.
I commented in the thread here that the Target Mod looked to be Plastic, but it's not! This is a good thing. The Manual says it is Zinc Allow and Stainless Steel, though the SS Type is not mentioned. The Battery Door/Cover has a nice weight to it and is held in place very well and securely by two Rare Earth magnets. I hear no rattle of anything and the door doesn't have any movement unless I tug on it sideways. But no movement in normal usage.
The so called "Gun" look cannot be seen at all when held in the hand. The Firing button is easily accessible and is easy to use with the Index Finger or Thumb, both Left-handed and Right-handed (I just tried both). I never thought that it looked much like a "Gun" anyway, and still don't. It is rather small and very comfortable in the hand. The OLED Screen is reversible with 3 clicks of the Vape Button. The Mod buttons can be Locked, but doing so also locks the device from being used. This was their was of preventing accidental firing.
I installed a fully charged IMREM 38 Amp 2600mAh 18650 with the filled tank already on the Mod (yes, I know it's not really a 38A battery). It powered up when the battery was installed, which I like. 5 fast clicks turns it Off and On. I haven't tried the device outside in bright sunlight yet, but the screen seems to be plenty bright enough. The (+) and (-) button placement is very convenient, and the USB Charging Port is below them, so it's great to have a Mod that doesn't need to be laid on its side to charge. Whether or not the Mod can be used in Passthrough Mode with charging is not stated, so I'm not going to try it.
This is not a full review, and I will be adding more.
PS:
I will be using the Mod and Ni200 cCell exclusively to see how long the Head lasts. I'll let you know.
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The Ni200 Head was very clean with no "burn-in time", if you will. Instant clean taste of nothing but my E-Liquid.
The Target Tank is bottom-fill. I eased quite a few drops onto the Ceramic, not even a whole drop at a time with my glass eyedropper, not wanted it to run down inside and flood or cause an issue. The Manual says to let the Head soak in a Full Tank for 2 minutes before vaping, so I waited, even though I had Primed it some.
I commented in the thread here that the Target Mod looked to be Plastic, but it's not! This is a good thing. The Manual says it is Zinc Allow and Stainless Steel, though the SS Type is not mentioned. The Battery Door/Cover has a nice weight to it and is held in place very well and securely by two Rare Earth magnets. I hear no rattle of anything and the door doesn't have any movement unless I tug on it sideways. But no movement in normal usage.
The so called "Gun" look cannot be seen at all when held in the hand. The Firing button is easily accessible and is easy to use with the Index Finger or Thumb, both Left-handed and Right-handed (I just tried both). I never thought that it looked much like a "Gun" anyway, and still don't. It is rather small and very comfortable in the hand. The OLED Screen is reversible with 3 clicks of the Vape Button. The Mod buttons can be Locked, but doing so also locks the device from being used. This was their was of preventing accidental firing.
I installed a fully charged IMREM 38 Amp 2600mAh 18650 with the filled tank already on the Mod (yes, I know it's not really a 38A battery). It powered up when the battery was installed, which I like. 5 fast clicks turns it Off and On. I haven't tried the device outside in bright sunlight yet, but the screen seems to be plenty bright enough. The (+) and (-) button placement is very convenient, and the USB Charging Port is below them, so it's great to have a Mod that doesn't need to be laid on its side to charge. Whether or not the Mod can be used in Passthrough Mode with charging is not stated, so I'm not going to try it.
This is not a full review, and I will be adding more.
PS:
I will be using the Mod and Ni200 cCell exclusively to see how long the Head lasts. I'll let you know.
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Fantastic first impressions, VG! Thank you!
Weren't they supposed to be SINTERED?
That's the Target tank, right?
I'm OK with that, but what do they mean by "self-cleaning" then??? How's that supposed to be done?
Weren't they supposed to be SINTERED?
That's the Target tank, right?
I'm OK with that, but what do they mean by "self-cleaning" then??? How's that supposed to be done?
You're welcome!
Yes, it's Sintered, but it looks like the coil wasn't Centered when they Sintered it.Weren't they supposed to be SINTERED?
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Maybe we should use Nude Nicotine Flavorings with the Partially Exposed coils.
Yes, Darlin'. The Target Tank and the Target TC/VW Mod.
I got both in the Kit. The only thing I can figure is that it is implied they will self-clean during normal use. It was not covered in the Manual and there hasn't been any word from Vaporesso since I asked.
Yes, it's Sintered, but it looks like the coil wasn't Centered when they Sintered it.
Faulty sintering???
The only thing I can figure is that it is implied they will self-clean during normal use. It was not covered in the Manual and there hasn't been any word from Vaporesso since I asked.
Hmmm... I don't see how that would work. I have a self-cleaning oven, mind you. It doesn't clean itself during normal use; au contraire, it gets filthy during normal use.
I made the following edit in Post #205 above about my calculation...
NOTE:
I divided wrong. ΩMax for 75W = (VMax)²/WMax = 9²/75 = 81/75 = 1.08Ω Max ...(not 0.926Ω)
So the Target Mod can deliver 75W with up to a 1.08Ω load.
That makes this an 8.333 Amp Device. And the 0.9Ω Kanthal Head can reach 75W safely.
I'll start using it with a Panasonic CGR18650CH 2050mAh 10 Amp 18650 and check the performance. This 10 Amp battery should not get warm at 8.333 Amps, plus any TC Overhead.
I have been using the Panasonic CGR18650CH for quite a while now, with the Temp turned all the way up to 600°F for my flavored juice, and at 530°F for unflavored 100% VG (so as not to create the possibility for Acrolein). The battery was not room temperature (74.5°F inside now), but it wasn't what I'd call warm, either. I could tell there was a little bit of heat generated by using the battery at 600°F, but nothing that concerned me in the least. The TC Overhead must put it near or slightly above 10 Amps. Maybe a 15 Amp 18650 would be best for less strain on the battery, but again, I am not concerned about this very low heat factor.
NOTE:
I divided wrong.
ΩMax for 75W = (VMax)²/WMax = 9²/75 = 81/75 = 1.08Ω Max ...(not 0.926Ω)So the Target Mod can deliver 75W with up to a 1.08Ω load.
That makes this an 8.333 Amp Device. And the 0.9Ω Kanthal Head can reach 75W safely.
I'll start using it with a Panasonic CGR18650CH 2050mAh 10 Amp 18650 and check the performance. This 10 Amp battery should not get warm at 8.333 Amps, plus any TC Overhead.
I have been using the Panasonic CGR18650CH for quite a while now, with the Temp turned all the way up to 600°F for my flavored juice, and at 530°F for unflavored 100% VG (so as not to create the possibility for Acrolein). The battery was not room temperature (74.5°F inside now), but it wasn't what I'd call warm, either. I could tell there was a little bit of heat generated by using the battery at 600°F, but nothing that concerned me in the least. The TC Overhead must put it near or slightly above 10 Amps. Maybe a 15 Amp 18650 would be best for less strain on the battery, but again, I am not concerned about this very low heat factor.
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Maybe so.Faulty sintering???
Hmmm... I don't see how that would work. I have a self-cleaning oven, mind you. It doesn't clean itself during normal use; au contraire, it gets filthy during normal use.
What I'm doing instead of Dry Burning is this. I emptied the Tank and put in some 3mg 100% VG that is unflavored, to get the old flavored juice out. Vaping that at 530°F to prevent Acrolein. I have some Irish Cream from The Vapor Room that I'm going to try next.
@Katya
Do you think I could toss the cCell Head in a self-cleaning oven instead?
@Katya
Do you think I could toss the cCell Head in a self-cleaning oven instead?
What I'm doing instead of Dry Burning is this. I emptied the Tank and put in some 3mg 100% VG that is unflavored, to get the old flavored juice out. Vaping that at 530°F to prevent Acrolein. I have some Irish Cream from The Vapor Room that I'm going to try next.
I often 'wet burn" my standard coils--I just fill my tanks with some unflavored PG/VG blend, increase the voltage and vape that for a while.
Absolutely! Go for it!
I'll let you fill the Tank with your own juice, so you can be the first on your block to try it!Nope!
I'll let you fill the Tank with your own juice, so you can be the first on your block to try it!
Negative.
No?Negative.
OK, how about the 0.9Ω Kanthal Head? I haven't used it yet. You could be the first in the neighborhood to Toodle Puff on a cCell Sintered Kanthal Head.
I'm running out of options.
OK, how about the 0.9Ω Kanthal Head? I haven't used it yet. You could be the first in the neighborhood to Toodle Puff on a cCell Sintered Kanthal Head.
That sounds better, but you still can't use my oven...
Seriously now, do you still like the vape? Are those sintered coils considerably better than the standard ones? A little better?
That's why I'm cleaning it out for another juice. I'm trying to give them a good evaluation. I'll keep you posted... but only if you let me use your oven. I'm starting to wonder about you. I thought you were really interested in this thing.That sounds better, but you still can't use my oven...
Seriously now, do you still like the vape? Are those sintered coils considerably better than the standard ones? A little better?
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