FYI, FW's website is offline, and has been for most of the afternoon. Progress? We shall see...
Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP
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saw that, and Vapor Renu.
Also, someone might want to point this guy in the direction of Theravape's lab test
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saw that, and Vapor Renu.
Also, someone might want to point this guy in the direction of Theravape's lab test
Just messaged this person. Done.
I have both butterscotch and caramel candy in 4 oz bottles purchased directly from FW, as well as snickers and kailua. I can only say that I am very, very, very disappointed in them if their claims and labeling of being diacetyl free are indeed false. I am now on my eighth month smoke free and started DIY so that I could know what I'm vaping in order to vape safe. Boycott sounds viable to me! Appreciate the information collected.
Any diy'ers have any suggestions for Michael? I have contacted him but I'm empty with suggestions on a caramel candy. I don't think tfa is on the persons list. I could be wrong. I don't vape caramel so I don't know. I do have a bottle of FA caramel but never touched it.saw that, and Vapor Renu.
Also, someone might want to point this guy in the direction of Theravape's lab test
The bottles say diacetyl and artificial color free.
Butterscotch : Batch Code # 48701025 MFG Date: 08-01-13
Caramel Candy : Batch Code # 48701031 MFG Date: 08-05-13
while that's all great for going forward, it's no comfort for those that have been vaping copious amounts over the last few years under the impression it was diacetyl freeIt's been a few weeks since they've been notified and no ones heard anything?
USP Kosher Grade Flavoring? Wording on the bottle labels from 08-13 batches I received appear to be the same as this batch from 05-13
that's what i was wondering, if newer batches were still being sent out with "diacetyl Free". I assume yours were bought close to 08-13?
I just referenced my PO. The batches I bought October 31, 2013 were manufactured 8-13.
Flavor West's website is back online. And they continue marketing products to vapors without disclosing their use of contents having known and serious inhalation risk. They requested 30-45 days to address -- twenty-two have now elapsed.
Our next step is to contact resellers.
I did contact one so far. We need to generate a list. I am referencing DIY vendors.
Excellent. And, while mostly in place, collect remaining balance of legal evidence. Do we need to do these in private? I can set up a private and secure location if appropriate.
What's the one thing you really don't want in your life? That would be a multitude of really irate ex-smokers.
What's the one thing you really don't want in your life? That would be a multitude of really irate ex-smokers.
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Yes, please include me if possible.
Funny thing is Google will pop up info that is older.
View this link: It still states diacetyl free. I forgot how to do a screen shot.
http://flavorwest.com/index.php/whiskey-253.html
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Yes, please include me if possible.
Funny thing is Google will pop up info that is older.
View this link: It still states diacetyl free. I forgot how to do a screen shot.
http://flavorwest.com/index.php/whiskey-253.html
if you're using windows, just go to start menu and search for "snipping tool"
I would just save the entire page as "web-complete".
I love how FW has an explanation point:
"Fireball Type Water Soluble Flavoring. Ingredients: Natural and/or Artificial Flavoring, Propylene Glycol and Alcohol. USP Kosher Grade Flavoring. Usage Rate .25 to .50 All Flavoring Diacetyl Free! No Refunds on Flavoring."
"Fireball Type Water Soluble Flavoring. Ingredients: Natural and/or Artificial Flavoring, Propylene Glycol and Alcohol. USP Kosher Grade Flavoring. Usage Rate .25 to .50 All Flavoring Diacetyl Free! No Refunds on Flavoring."
It looks like this one they forgot to change.Yes, please include me if possible.
Funny thing is Google will pop up info that is older.
View this link: It still states diacetyl free. I forgot how to do a screen shot.
http://flavorwest.com/index.php/whiskey-253.html
So what you think the odds are about this flavor containing diacetyl?
Also have brown sugar same label with a MGF date 3-10-14
Also have brown sugar same label with a MGF date 3-10-14
Conspiracy theory-ish? More like conspiracy realistic-ish! Throughout history, the amount of times "Big Interests" have poisoned the products of those they want to discredit & control (with no concern over end-users) is dismal - it's not that uncommon (and not all that difficult to find/validate).
It is terrible this was found - but it does seem (to us) very unlikely that it would be intentional (what possible reason could there be for a manufacturer/vendor using EG, eh?). Mislabeling is not that uncommon - and with some companies creating juices by the vat, it's not like 'a mistake' would just be a gallon or two - it could have been several 55 gallon drums or 'pallets of gallons' blended throughout many different flavor-combos.
We agree - whatever the reason, it's beyond reason!
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