Alright everyone...I just came across a weird issue I'm sure one of you have had with your AFS. I close my CR and try to do some dry inhales, but the tank is not sealing so I just get a slight airy pull so not much liquid can get into the atomizer. Where should I look to fix this? I'm getting no leaking or anything...just a mostly dry atty that can't seem to get some liquid.
AFS leaking issue part 2
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Well, that's a new one! Not wanting to sound insulting, pardon me, but have you made sure that everything's nice and tight on it? Tried cleaning the threads?
Yep. I took EVERYTHING apart and cleaned it methodically. I even put brand new o-rings on and I'm still having the same issue. I'm using an i6 V1AFS atomizer (which I heard has the opposite effect I'm having which is it gets really wet per other user comments). I have to close the CR so tight and suck hard enough to give me brain seizures just to be able to vape. There is a leak of air going on somewhere, but no idea where.
Hmm...drain the juice, take off the cap and blow into the top of it. Can you feel air coming out anywhere?
THERE IS YOU ISSUE! THE V1 atty has a laser hole that is allowing air to enter the system. Don't try to use the V1 atty unless you can seal off that laser hole. I tried this with a cartomizer end cap with the end cut off but it still leaked a bit.
Vap I have 6 new iatties !!! ... They have a tiny laser hole ... This need to be shealed in order to work with the GGTS AFS ???
The laser hole on the V1 atties is up near the cap end of the atty. When the liquid falls below that hole it allows air in. The V2 laser holes are at the bottom of the atty so air can't get in.
Reading this thread has been very interesting. I'm a relative newbie and am using the AFSv2 on a Silver Bullet. So far ... only a few minor slight leakages .. all which have been stopped and fixed through trial and error. This I expect from what I've been reading, until I can get this thing mastered.
So my strategy has been to go slow ... real slow. Once it is set up and vaping well ... I am really reluctant to "mess" with it. Paranoid even maybe. Especially when it comes to over torquing the O-rings. My experience with O-rings over the years says that if at all possible, they will find a way to leak. And for perspective, loosing a little nic-juice is a minor problem compared to leaking radioactive coolant (I work in a nuclear power plant) into an uncontrolled area because an O-ring decides to stop playing nice.
O-rings go bad .. they just do. It can be overtorque; it can be overpressurization, it can be underpressurization (ie. vacuum), it can be a small defect; it can be due to drying out and rewetting; it can be they get minute amounts of debris gunked up on them. It can also be old age.
O-ring problems for the most part I have figured out how to avoid. As far as the different attys being manufactured, the way to punch a hole in cartos, the various control ring finesses, and some of the other nuances ... well, that's why I'm reading this thread now, as these issues are bound to eventually manifest in my experience.
We used to say in the Navy (the 7 P's): "Proper prior preparation prevents piss poor performance".
So, please keep up the good work helping everyone with their AFS learning curve guys. I'm learning a lot, and so are others.
Also, nice try ... trying to get that AFS at a discount. I wouldn't give up my AFSv2 either. That would be SILLY. It is waaaay too sweet. And, if it's working for others, it will work for me.
So my strategy has been to go slow ... real slow. Once it is set up and vaping well ... I am really reluctant to "mess" with it. Paranoid even maybe. Especially when it comes to over torquing the O-rings. My experience with O-rings over the years says that if at all possible, they will find a way to leak. And for perspective, loosing a little nic-juice is a minor problem compared to leaking radioactive coolant (I work in a nuclear power plant) into an uncontrolled area because an O-ring decides to stop playing nice.
O-rings go bad .. they just do. It can be overtorque; it can be overpressurization, it can be underpressurization (ie. vacuum), it can be a small defect; it can be due to drying out and rewetting; it can be they get minute amounts of debris gunked up on them. It can also be old age.
O-ring problems for the most part I have figured out how to avoid. As far as the different attys being manufactured, the way to punch a hole in cartos, the various control ring finesses, and some of the other nuances ... well, that's why I'm reading this thread now, as these issues are bound to eventually manifest in my experience.
We used to say in the Navy (the 7 P's): "Proper prior preparation prevents piss poor performance".
So, please keep up the good work helping everyone with their AFS learning curve guys. I'm learning a lot, and so are others.
Also, nice try ... trying to get that AFS at a discount. I wouldn't give up my AFSv2 either. That would be SILLY. It is waaaay too sweet. And, if it's working for others, it will work for me.
That was the issue! I took off the V1 atty and put a V2 atty on and I no longer have any issues. Word of advice for anyone...DO NOT use V1 atomizers on the V2 AFS. Thanks all!
You can but you have to cover the laser hole.
I have the old V1 Iattys and they only have the one hole. The new V2 Iattys have one hole made bigger and 2 tiny laser holes that are hard to see but there.
Just an update - I have changed now all the o-rings and the leaking has stopped. Now it has no leak at all with cartos and just a normal leak with the atties from the vent holes when I close or open the CR.
All good now
I have a suggestion for manufacturer - if possible to include a spare o-rings kit with the AFS or offer them for sale - I had a really hard time finding the right sizes
back to my GG now
I send 60 packages of those o-rings to Lisa and I will send them to Rob too my friend Mick.
Nice to hear that you are more than ok with your AFS
booker, if you use a 901 atomizer and drip on it too much you get that little drop of juice come out of the vent hole on the side. That is a normal thing for the 901 and especially with the AFS constantly feeding juice. If you battery is running low you will get a little bit of juice inside the collection tank, that is what it is designed to do, catch that little bit of overflow. Once you master the AFS you will know how to run the unit without over filling the atty. It just takes a little time to get used to but is by far the best vaping experience and well worth trying out. I know I was so sick of messing around with carts and dripping, the AFS was just the ticket to help me enjoy vaping. Hope you can experience what we all rave about....
That was the issue! I took off the V1 atty and put a V2 atty on and I no longer have any issues. Word of advice for anyone...DO NOT use V1 atomizers on the V2 AFS. Thanks all!
Good deal, yes that laser hole on those V1 atomizers is above the juice level and lets air enter the system and then the juice will just run right into the atty. Heck I had one drain out completely when I first started trying out the V2. I found that I could use them if I covered the laser hole on the top with a cartomizer end cover with the end cut off. It makes a little tube that fits on the atomizer pretty tight and will seal off that hole. If you think about the AFS system it is really a straw with liquid inside. If you keep your finger on the top of the straw you will hold the juice inside. If you take your finger off the top of that straw all the juice will run right out. We are pulling a tiny bit of juice off the bottom each inhale, close the control ring and you put more pressure on the bottom of the straw pulling more juice from it. Simple when you think about it. Can be a real pain if you are not thinking about it that way. Imeo is known for coming up with the most simple approach that simply works. And works well I might add... Glad we can help everyone out with the AFS. That is what this forum is for in the first place.
I have to agree eith vapnaway... Since I got the hang of the Afs v2 and then the carto mod. I cant imagine not having it. Imeo created the afs, to make vaping hassle free. Its soo easy to vape with it now. But, I still carry a extra un- modified carto with me to change flavors; So I dont have to waste the juice in my afs. I tend to change flavors 2 to 4 times a day. Now if only I could afford 4 afs v2 then I would be set.
Cheers vapnaway.
I surelly will!...that is, if noone will nick all upcoming UK GGTS&AVS stock before I'll make my order
Yea, I keep a few devices with me at work with different flavors in em so I don't get tired of the same old thing all day. That is the really nice thing about this whole vaping thing aint it?
I heard that chocolate might get ya one reserved. Don't tell Lisa I told you though....Cheers vapnaway.
I surelly will!...that is, if noone will nick all upcoming UK GGTS&AVS stock before I'll make my order
Make sure you are registered on Cloud9Vaping and you should get a newsletter right when she puts them online. Be ready to jump and get that bad boy in your cart and paid for. Hope you can get one bud. I heard what happened to your Slim. What a bummer man!- Status
