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All Flavoring Manufacturers: An Open Discussion
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Welcome to the dark side. It can be frustrating at times but it's mostly a lot of fun.
OK well I'm a total idiot!
I have FA strawberry! For some reason I thought it was Flavors Express and put it in my spreadsheet that way, but I just went to mix some more up and found it's really FA.
I've vaped 10ml's of this the past 2 days (mixed with FA custard) and I really like it, though I haven't had any other strawberry to compare it to except NT Strawnilla and I think it's a very close strawberry flavor to theirs (now I'm not getting the creamy milky flavor of strawnilla but the strawberry itself tastes close)
Andria, sorry for misleading you yesterday saying it was Flavors Express.
Now I don't know if I should get some more FA, wait on the Shisha or try something else. I see TFA has 2 different strawberry's, strawberry and ripe strawberry, both have good reviews.
I'm almost out of vanilla also so if anyone has a suggestion for a really good vanilla I would appreciate it. I have been using Cap french vanilla V2 and I'm not real crazy about it, it's kind of weak, I want a really strong vanilla.
I have FA strawberry! For some reason I thought it was Flavors Express and put it in my spreadsheet that way, but I just went to mix some more up and found it's really FA.
I've vaped 10ml's of this the past 2 days (mixed with FA custard) and I really like it, though I haven't had any other strawberry to compare it to except NT Strawnilla and I think it's a very close strawberry flavor to theirs (now I'm not getting the creamy milky flavor of strawnilla but the strawberry itself tastes close)
Andria, sorry for misleading you yesterday saying it was Flavors Express.
Now I don't know if I should get some more FA, wait on the Shisha or try something else. I see TFA has 2 different strawberry's, strawberry and ripe strawberry, both have good reviews.
I'm almost out of vanilla also so if anyone has a suggestion for a really good vanilla I would appreciate it. I have been using Cap french vanilla V2 and I'm not real crazy about it, it's kind of weak, I want a really strong vanilla.
Know that TFA's Strawberry Ripe is a very authentic strawberry, but almost too much so. It's funky in the way that actual berries can be, so it'll need a little bit of candy-type strawberry to make it register as the type of strawberry that I believe you'd be looking for. That's my opinion at least. I haven't had their regular strawberry, but it's coming in my batch in the mail (at least I think that was one of the 40+ flavors I just ordered.)
TFA French Vanilla Creme is a good vanilla flavor, and very strong. It tastes a lot more authentic than CAP's Vanilla Custard v2, which absolutely screams ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR OVER HERE.
I'm also awaiting TFA's Vanilla Swirl, which is their diketone-free custard; I've heard very good thngs about it, so I'm looking forward to trying it.
Andria
Thanks Mann!
I just did a search and read a bunch of threads about strawberry and got the consensus that Cap sweet, TFA ripe and FA are the best. Cap sweet seems to be more of a candy and TFA ripe more of a natural. Maybe I'll get both and compare them and then I can mix them if need be.
I just did a search and read a bunch of threads about strawberry and got the consensus that Cap sweet, TFA ripe and FA are the best. Cap sweet seems to be more of a candy and TFA ripe more of a natural. Maybe I'll get both and compare them and then I can mix them if need be.
Another good strong vanilla flavor is tfa vanilla bean gelato.I think it's the diketone free version of vanilla bean ice cream,but i used it at 5% as my adv for a few months,it has a nice true vanilla taste to it.
Vape recipe:
FA Torrone 1.5% Has faint chemical fresh so let sit lit off 2 or 3 hours.
Drink recipe:
Fill mug with milk or half milk, half water and heat piping hot in microwave. Add 1 ea. heaping teaspoon of instant coffee, cocoa mix, and sugar.
Sip and vape, sip and vape, sip and vape....ad nauseam lol.
Edit to add: Andria in one of your posts the other day I got the notion you were thinking about trying a tobacco flavor. Or I read it wrong or got the wrong idea but anyways, if you are, I'd say try the FA 7 Leaves Ultimate. Even if you don't like it stand a lone it mixes really well with other things, torrone being one of them.
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Vape recipe:
FA Torrone 1.5% Has faint chemical fresh so let sit lit off 2 or 3 hours.
Drink recipe:
Fill mug with milk or half milk, half water and heat piping hot in microwave. Add 1 ea. heaping teaspoon of instant coffee, cocoa mix, and sugar.
Sip and vape, sip and vape, sip and vape....ad nauseam lol.
What is torrone?
Andria
I don't really know, I've never tried the actual thing. Google says it's an Italian nougat but the recipes for it seem to differ quite a bit. Basic chocolate and almond I think.
I haven't used vanilla swirl as a standalone,but i use it in alot of mixes and never got any off taste,so i would say it must be a good one haha,but yeah the gelato is very good on it's own as well as mixed with other flavors.I like my flavors strong,and the gelato was fairly strong at 5%,so i wouldn't start out much higher than that.
I have the FA Strawberry, and I think it's a pretty true to the flavor of an actual strawberry.
Good to know. How is it on coils? I've read some reviews that say it's pretty tart but I guess sweetener would fix that. (I've got a huge sweet tooth lol.)
Same here, and I also use all those creams and a hint of vanilla with it, and that really brings out the flavor. Also, with sweet creamy vapes, even with high PG I find the throat hit very lacking, so I add a lot of that "Flash" stuff; I think it's by FA also. I've mixed up several variations of "sweet flash", basically varying amounts of sweetener, flash, and nicotine, in PG -- Sweet Flash is 6% on both sweetener and flash, 12mg; XSweet XXXFlash is 10% sweetener and 18% Flash, 10mg; I use that one in the strawberry, to really goose the TH, and it helps a lot; generally use about 10%-12% of that in the total mix.
Andria
Ok!! I got my new flavors today, and I'm itching to try out some of the Apple Pie with the other flavors I have in mind. The recipe I'm considering is this:
FA Apple Pie 5%
CAP Cinn Danish Swirl v2 4%
TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato 3%
Does that seem ok? I don't know how the intensity of the various flavors compares, but that's the order of importance to each flavor, first the apple pie, then the cinnamon, and lastly, the vanilla ice cream flavor. I may also add some Flash and some sweetener, but just wondered how the intensity of flavors would affect the main recipe.
Andria
FA Apple Pie 5%
CAP Cinn Danish Swirl v2 4%
TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato 3%
Does that seem ok? I don't know how the intensity of the various flavors compares, but that's the order of importance to each flavor, first the apple pie, then the cinnamon, and lastly, the vanilla ice cream flavor. I may also add some Flash and some sweetener, but just wondered how the intensity of flavors would affect the main recipe.
Andria
FA Apple Pie can go as low as .5%. By all means though try it as you have it set out, but know that seems high to me based on my mixing with it. For me, above 1-2% (and sometimes at that percentage) it starts to take on a rough quality that bogarts the mix.
Ok, that's very helpful to know! So maybe instead of a first 5ml test mix, I'll start with just a 3ml test mix and see how it tastes.
thx!!!
Andria
Well, I did the 3ml test mix; I have to say, it doesn't really taste too much like anything, though not bad, just bland. It might be because there's such a small amount of flavoring compared to what I'm used to -- it might be one of those tedious mixes that has to sit for EVAH to taste like anything. I added another drop of apple pie, and another drop of sweetener, and it's better, but still pretty blah. So then I added a drop of FA "Apple" directly to the dripper, and then it started to actually taste like something.
So I made a couple of changes to the recipe.
FA Apple Pie 3%
FA Apple 3%
CAP Cinn Danish Swirl v2 3%
TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato 2%
Flash 2%
Sweetener 2%
Haven't tried it yet, but based on the previous recipe and my extra drops here and there, this seems more promising. It's still only 15% flavoring, and 2% of that is Flash, which adds no flavor, just TH, so it still might be one of the tedious mixes that has to steep. I'm spoiled by Bill's High Flavor Mixes; steeping is stupid, having to wait to see if something tastes good, but in this case, it might be necessary.
Andria
So I made a couple of changes to the recipe.
FA Apple Pie 3%
FA Apple 3%
CAP Cinn Danish Swirl v2 3%
TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato 2%
Flash 2%
Sweetener 2%
Haven't tried it yet, but based on the previous recipe and my extra drops here and there, this seems more promising. It's still only 15% flavoring, and 2% of that is Flash, which adds no flavor, just TH, so it still might be one of the tedious mixes that has to steep. I'm spoiled by Bill's High Flavor Mixes; steeping is stupid, having to wait to see if something tastes good, but in this case, it might be necessary.
Andria
As a stand alone, I found the FA Apple Pie to be not as flavorful as I wanted so I went back to the TFA Apple Pie.
I've vaped about 15ml in 3 days on the same wick and it still tastes very clean so I don't think it's much of a coil clogger.
I don't find it tart at all (but I've been mixing it with custard) and I really don't like tart or sour so I think I would notice. It's not real sweet either just a nice strawberry flavor.
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