However, there are regulations on trespassing and once you didn't leave when they told you to that's what you were doing.
And we were vaping in Wal Mart
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However, there are regulations on trespassing and once you didn't leave when they told you to that's what you were doing.
Actually, I've vaped lots of places. I'd probably do it in a store if I was ever in one long enough but, I get what I want and I get out. It takes the right attitude. If you aren't comfortable, don't do it. If you think you have the right and want to insist on it, please don't do it. If you need to sneak around, don't do it. You really aren't fooling anyone you know. If you aren't comfortable using something that doesn't look like a cigarette, please don't do it. People think it's a cigarette and that can cause problems for the establishment. Sometimes that poisons the water for the next vaper. If you can do it comfortably minding your own business, go ahead. You probably won't have a problem. I never have. If you do have a problem, stop or leave.
Wal-Mart also sells BB guns, but I can't see them allowing them to be used in the store.
The BB guns also don't advertise on the box that they "can be used anywhere".
Not that I am condoning confrontational behavior here, but comparisons must be between like items to support logic.
I agree with that. I have never vaped in any building except for home. But I do outside. The media will alway find and show the few mishapes with vaping. Thats what they do. But if we keep hiding from the public then how will they know that this is a better way then smoking. I feel it's a lack of information out there. More and more people are starting to see this and are picking up pv's. No we can't be flinging it all over the place but I'm not hiding either.
Are you comparing a gun and a pv. lol I believe if it's the store policy not to vape then don't vape. But please we don't want people to think our e-cigs are as dangerous as guns.Wal-Mart also sells BB guns, but I can't see them allowing them to be used in the store.
Actually Lowes corporate headquarters isn't that far from here. I actually wrote them and offered to go there and educate them. They haven't taken me up on it so far.
I was in lowes several times recently. I was vaping all the way in and out. No one said a thing. I was also preparring to buy some items so maybe they have a no vaping policy for loiterers.
My typical situation in public has been initial shock, followed by my explanation of the device, followed by acceptance after a few minor questions. I have had one exception, which was a store that also happens to sell books and other publications, who objected totally to "any form of smoking, even if it is only water vapor."
I don't vape there. Then again, there are plenty of similar stores in his area that appreciate my business now.
I don't vape there. Then again, there are plenty of similar stores in his area that appreciate my business now.
I'm willing to bet most of their employees aren't aware of the policy.
Our store sells them but you can't use them in the store...not even the employees. I walk around W-M and blow clouds. I'm waiting for the day they tell me to stop or leave. My reply will be...then tell everyone who has chew in their mouths to leave also. I hate that store but it's just about the only place in our town to shop. The biggest reason for the vapor clouds is to draw attention. I've converted a lot of smokers because of it.
I could see that argument from the angle of there being flammables in the store.
Bookstores for the same reason.
If they have fumes around that could be ignited by a PV, they need to worry about their light switches and every other electrical device in the store. Not to mention sparks from static electricity.
You'd really have to work to set fire to a book with a PV. I don't see how it would be possible to do it accidentally. About the worst thing you could do is spill juice on one. I know that spilling liquids on books is a big concern. That's why so many of them have coffee shops attached.
Considering the lack of real knowledge the public has about ecigs, we are only setting ourselves up for rejection when we are flamboyant with our ecigs in public. Most people have only heard about the antifreeze in ecigs and that they are banned in some cities. Blowing clouds of vapor can only get US banned.
Be patient and stealthy. The truth will win out in the end if we do. Don't ruin it for the rest of us by flaunting it and daring people to say something about it. Cars with 1000 watt stereos are legal, too. If you ride through the neighborhood blaring rap music and rattling windows in the homes, an ordinance will eventually be passed against it.
It's easier to quietly work for acceptance than it is to get a law against public use of ecigs repealed.
Be patient and stealthy. The truth will win out in the end if we do. Don't ruin it for the rest of us by flaunting it and daring people to say something about it. Cars with 1000 watt stereos are legal, too. If you ride through the neighborhood blaring rap music and rattling windows in the homes, an ordinance will eventually be passed against it.
It's easier to quietly work for acceptance than it is to get a law against public use of ecigs repealed.
That's the thing though, your perception that these are not well received in public is not borne out by my experience. I'm not flamboyant about it. I just mind my own business and vape no different than I would in my living room. I'm not flamboyant there either. As long as people realize it's not a cigarette, and it would take a pretty strange person to think my set up is, most people either ignore it or are curious. Many of them want more info for relatives. A lot of them remark how cool it is. It's actually a pretty good ice breaker in bars.
So, I have to say that your perception of a negative reaction is all in your mind. I've actually vaped in public in your state. So, I know it's not a problem there.
I've yet to have a problem anywhere and so far, I've vaped in public in NC, GA, FL, NY (upstate), and NV.
If the employees aren't aware of the policy, then there is no policy against vaping. Many places I have worked pass around memos and announcements to all employees of any new policy changes. The only way an employee would NOT know the policy is if he/she stopped coming into work or is totally oblivious of ALL of the company's policies.
Happy Vaping,
Jen
Um - I"m pretty sure they sell cigarettes and alcohol, too, but that doesn't mean your allowed to smoke and drink in the store.
Getting an attitude about your "right" to vape isn't going to help. It'll increase the chances of official rules against vaping being made.
Um - I"m pretty sure they sell cigarettes and alcohol, too, but that doesn't mean your allowed to smoke and drink in the store.
Yeah, well that carton of Camels doesn't say "smoke 'em anywhere!" on it, either... The re-branded (out here the wal-mart e-cig is called something else...) kr808 disposables say in bold print, "Smoke Anywhere!!!"
Yeah, well that carton of Camels doesn't say "smoke 'em anywhere!" on it, either... The re-branded (out here the wal-mart e-cig is called something else...) kr808 disposables say in bold print, "Smoke Anywhere!!!"
I would recommend that you don't believe every advertisement you come across.
"Smoke Anywhere" is already wrong, since there is no smoke.
And you have to be an idiot to think that since the seller of that product advertises "Smoke anywhere" that no business is allowed to have rules against it.
"Smoke Anywhere" is already wrong, since there is no smoke.
And you have to be an idiot to think that since the seller of that product advertises "Smoke anywhere" that no business is allowed to have rules against it.
I'm simply suggesting that your analogies are flawed. You must compare like items for logical deduction. E-cigarettes are not like alcohol, or cigarettes. The fact that a vendor is selling an item that indicates its safe use in the premises in question, is my point. In a wal-mart (or any place that sells a product that they don't want consumed/used on the premises) they have signs indicating that use of those products is prohibited (due to law). Telling me I'm an idiot because you disagree with my opinion doesn't change the fact that there is no law against it, wal-mart (at least in my area) has no policy against it, and it is an item advertised as safe for use in the area in question. Whether that advertisement is true or not, I have no idea, but it is the statement made by the product's manufacturer. Of course wally-world COULD implement a policy, but they don't generally do that unless law requires it.
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