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zoiDman

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I think the real question is what is there to fear from basic safety standards? It may add $.50 to the price of a mod? It is a fantasy world to believe e-cigarettes won't be regulated. The all or nothing approach will result in all...

Why don't you Preface that with whether it is an Industry Standards. Or a Government Standard.

Industry does a Very Good Job of coming up with Realistic Standards.

The Government? Well... Sometimes Not so Good.
 

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Regulation can't prevent most or all the relatively few accidents that have happened. A mech mod and a user built coil can't be controlled by regulations. Nor can regs prevent poorly built or designed switches from sticking closed or staying closed in a user's pocket. These things (the sub ohm mech mods) are inherently dangerous to some degree. And that degree is controlled by the user.

If flashlight user built their own lamps and competed for the brightest possible light, you would have the same problem with flashlights.

Maybe a side issue is that regulation will never work unless branded clones are stamped out. The idea of regulation is rather insane in the current wild west environment where gerar is copied right down to the packaging and brand markings, and sold openly. Most people probably have no idea who made their gear, and in a lot of cases don't own what they think they own. Of course you could argue that that state of affairs will help bring on regulation too, I guess.

Personally I have a huge issue with the attempt to make a riskless world. I have no problem with people taking risks. But those ideas were stamped out decades ago. Especially when political axes are being ground, as they are here.
 

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Why don't you Preface that with whether it is an Industry Standards. Or a Government Standard.

Industry does a Very Good Job of coming up with Realistic Standards.

The Government? Well... Sometimes Not so Good.

You expect companies which practice counterfeiting to adhere to industry standards?
 

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Regulation can't prevent most or all the relatively few accidents that have happened. A mech mod and a user built coil can't be controlled by regulations. Nor can regs prevent poorly built or designed switches from sticking closed or staying closed in a user's pocket. These things (the sub ohm mech mods) are inherently dangerous to some degree. And that degree is controlled by the user.

If flashlight user built their own lamps and competed for the brightest possible light, you would have the same problem with flashlights.

Maybe a side issue is that regulation will never work unless branded clones are stamped out. The idea of regulation is rather insane in the current wild west environment where gerar is copied right down to the packaging and brand markings, and sold openly. Most people probably have no idea who made their gear, and in a lot of cases don't own what they think they own. Of course you could argue that that state of affairs will help bring on regulation too, I guess.

Personally I have a huge issue with the attempt to make a riskless world. I have no problem with people taking risks. But those ideas were stamped out decades ago. Especially when political axes are being ground, as they are here.
I want to like this.

But you have narrowed the playing field.

It's unrealistic.

Egos have been known to vent, explode and cause damage, wound people and burn homes.

A Chevette can barrel off the road @ 80mph and kill entire families just the same as a sports car.

And not too long ago there was the whole recall fiasco from Toyota where the throttle was sticking in a wide open position. Killed some people. And none of the models were their performance models. Rather they were all economy class IIRC.

Tapatyped
 

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I usually vape without a seat belt, but removing mattress tags.. sheesh "u peeps" are outta control.

Yup.
Not only tearing off mattress tags, but I also went swimming right after eating, didn't wait. O the horror.
Mothers hide their children when I walk down the street.
 

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Yup.
Not only tearing off mattress tags, but I also went swimming right after eating, didn't wait. O the horror.
Mothers hide their children when I walk down the street.

After I read this it inspired my rebel nature I just made a lap around the house with scissors pointy end up. Uh huh wild man right here.
 

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Ima starting a committee to study the regulation of regulation!!!
For the love of all things holy and to save the baby Jesus we need to regulate regulation.
E-cigy mods are the devil's dildo.

LOL!
"Father forgive me for I have sinned. I vaped a mechanical mod. And it was sub ohm. And I liked it."
 

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I want to like this.

But you have narrowed the playing field.

It's unrealistic.

Egos have been known to vent, explode and cause damage, wound people and burn homes.

A Chevette can barrel off the road @ 80mph and kill entire families just the same as a sports car.

And not too long ago there was the whole recall fiasco from Toyota where the throttle was sticking in a wide open position. Killed some people. And none of the models were their performance models. Rather they were all economy class IIRC.

Tapatyped

The vast majority of incidents I've heard about are with mechs and/or rebuildable coils. Nothing is black and white. But I look at the mainstreaming of cloud chasing, with mech mods and rebuildables, and I see a slow motion train wreck in progress.

Not that there is anything inherently wrong with the right to take a risk, but it is pretty obvious that a lot of newbies are sold those devices, and with no deep knowledge, this is an inevitable roll of the dice. In a zero risk tolerant political environment. I'm counting among the newbies those that know only enough to be dangerous.

And I brought up the mechs because they are almost purely DIY, totally beyond the ability to regulate. Whereas Ego systems could, in principle, be regulated because there is no DIY involved. And those devices at least have some safety circuits in them. The mechs are totally up to user control, and we all know where that leads.
 

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Do tell what global government agency will carve that path?
WHO?

Pray tell?

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