Anyone else getting sick of ignorant anti vapors

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I had one of those discussions with an extended family member around the 4th of July. "I heard those things are dangerous!"

Me: "You saw it on the internet? It must be true..." Pause... "Bon jour."

From now on, if approached by a stranger or mere acquaintance, I'll just chuckle, shake my head and say, "you poor fool."
 

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A guy at my work continually gave me crap about mine messing with his allergies because of the smell. Saying I was smoking and putting bad chemicals in the air and all sorts of garbage.

This went on for a couple weeks before they called me into the general manager's office along with 2 managers. They told me that the guy and several people had complained about it because of messing with their allergies and they complained because the fda hadn't approved them.

They asked if there was something else that I could do. So I told them about flavorless/odorless and they said that would be great. So I got that and the dude still complained. This went on for around another week. So then my manager pulled me to the side and said if I needed to vape just go in his office and build a .... if I needed to, smoke it out. Just as long as I did it in there. I agreed to it. The dude still didn't like me doing it but there wasnt much he could do about it then.

A few days after that we had a meeting outside. I was standing by myself 30 ft away from the guy and he started up again that this was a no smoking area and that I couldn't do it around him. I lost it. Absolutely lost it. I blew up and told him that he could f off and if I heard another thing from him about it I was going to knock him out. I had done everything asked of me, but the dude was an ignorant useless human being and I had had enough. After having several guys pull me away to keep me from even getting to him. The guy came and apologized to me for being an ....

Since then I have been happily vaping away in my bosses office. I'm actually writing this from his office right now.
 

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Sometimes, I get such comments from someone who is misinformed and is open to discussion on the subject. For these people, I will make the time. They may even have some facts I was not aware of.
If they are open to discussion, so am I.
Other times, I will get the less open minded ones. For those, I can be just as much a smart ... as the next guy.

This thread reminds me of a time many years ago when I was parked with a bunch of my motorcycle friends. We were just sitting on our bikes (mostly sport bikes but with a few cruisers) having a coffee. People were walking by and many were looking at the bikes. A d'bag with his GF stopped and said to nobody in particular "You'll never get me on one of those death traps". At that point, the biggest guy in our group looked him up and down and said in a loud, dismissive tone, "Nobody offered YOU a ride". We all laughed loudly as he went beet red and faded away.
 

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This is mainly down to the popular media. Selfish, boorish and pig ignorant people will always pick up on 'facts' that suit their point of view.
OK, what we need is some form of pop media to start the rumour that e-cigs increase libido and sexual stamina.
Bet we get a lot more curious people asking questions then. We can then just give them a satisfied smirk in reply. :pervy:

what! you haven't tried the ...... e-juice? the site is always closed so I order ...... juice as a back-up.
 

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A guy at my work continually gave me crap about mine messing with his allergies because of the smell. Saying I was smoking and putting bad chemicals in the air and all sorts of garbage.

This went on for a couple weeks before they called me into the general manager's office along with 2 managers. They told me that the guy and several people had complained about it because of messing with their allergies and they complained because the fda hadn't approved them.

They asked if there was something else that I could do. So I told them about flavorless/odorless and they said that would be great. So I got that and the dude still complained. This went on for around another week. So then my manager pulled me to the side and said if I needed to vape just go in his office and build a .... if I needed to, smoke it out. Just as long as I did it in there. I agreed to it. The dude still didn't like me doing it but there wasnt much he could do about it then.

A few days after that we had a meeting outside. I was standing by myself 30 ft away from the guy and he started up again that this was a no smoking area and that I couldn't do it around him. I lost it. Absolutely lost it. I blew up and told him that he could f off and if I heard another thing from him about it I was going to knock him out. I had done everything asked of me, but the dude was an ignorant useless human being and I had had enough. After having several guys pull me away to keep me from even getting to him. The guy came and apologized to me for being an ....

Since then I have been happily vaping away in my bosses office. I'm actually writing this from his office right now.

I loved this story. Don't you just want to tell him "Every time you make poopy you unleash more chemicals than this does."
 

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There is so much in this thread to talk about that I hardly know where to start...

1) Our education system
2) Bullies
3) Nanny State
4) Human nature
5) The failure of the media
6) Brainwashing
7) Corruption
8) The "easily offended"
9) Willful ignorance

I'm sure I can think of a few more topics to generate discussion based on what I've read here.
But instead I'll just keep my mouth shut and vape some WTA juice to calm down a bit.
:)
 
Thats story about your co worker actually wound me up. Sitting her puffing away like a mad man over it. If i could get close to him i would beat the living .... outta him. I would also tell the boss that the steam from his coffee is affecting my allergies so by the same logic he wouldnt be able to have his fix at work. Lets see how long before he caves without his medicine :)
 

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I get almost as frustrated with people who say they're interested in vaping. I offer to take them to a reputable B&M, introduce them to the owner, and get them started on the right path. Then they'll come back and say that it sounds like too much work, so they're just going to go get some overpriced crap starter kit from a tobacco store.

That's still a win. My wife still uses her overpriced crap Green Smoke starter kit. 4 months off the ciggs. Win.
 

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As I've said before, ignorant people really do not have valid opinions. Contempt prior to investigation. Everyone is guilty of it at some point in their life. It is what it is and the end result is how you react to it. :)

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

Nice. 25 years :)
 

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The "Allergy People" will always be among us, as long as society shies away from confronting them with their own ignorance. Disguising a childish attempt to impose a restriction on a co-worker by falsely claiming a medical condition is an affront to everyone who really does suffer from sensitivity to certain substances ...

We have a guy here who bathes perhaps once a week, wears the same clothes for days at a time, has advanced tooth decay with dragon breath, and personal mannerisms too disgusting to relate here ...

And he's the first to scream like a baby if he sees a smoker outside of the designated area, which is standing in the center of a busy driveway ...

I need to stealth vape under my desk again ...
 

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I took a proactive approach to this, and here's what I wrote on my Facebook, just to do my part and get the word out there amongst my family and friends. I don't know how many of you use Facebook, or have done this already, but I think the more we educate the people we know, the more they will spread it to those that they know:

RANT...
So, after 22 years without one single attempt to stop smoking, I quit smoking cigarettes on July 2nd, and completely switched to an electronic device. I've done a lot of research, and what it comes down to is this: cigarettes and some other smokeable tobacco products are really bad for you. They contain nearly 4000+ chemicals, a lot of them added in processing. When you smoke a cigarette, you're smoking burnt organic, and inorganic matter, which produces the tar/soot/carbon monoxide/nasty stuff that will eventually kill you. With the electronic ones, there is no burnt matter. It's just a mix of food grade, safe for human consumption, vegetable glycerin and/or propylene glycol (the delivery medium for asthma inhalers) mixed with a small amount of nicotine and flavoring. What you breath in is, essentially, steam and nicotine. Nicotine is not bad for you. It's just a mild stimulant, and is no worse for you than the caffeine in your coffee or tea. People should be aware of this. It's NOT the nicotine that causes cancer, and other diseases. It's the SMOKE in the cigarette, along with all the other additional chemicals that have been added.

So, people, when you see someone with an electronic cigarette, or a similar device, you can stop being worried about what LOOKS like people smoking, when they're in fact not actually smoking. They're breathing in nicotine vapor, which contains next to ZERO percent particulate matter. When they breath out, It's not "second hand smoke". Also, it usually smells good, like the hazelnut flavor that I'm enjoying as I write this. That said, I'm still courteous of others, and usually refrain from invading their personally space with my vapor.

I really liked smoking, but I'm extremely happy that I've found something that's FAR FAR less harmful to myself, and others around me, which enabled me to quit. I hope more people embrace these devices as a healthier alternative to tobacco smoking, and not demonize them in the same way that they do cigarettes. They have the potential to help thousands of people improve their health.



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Also, my lungs feel SO MUCH better after only a month. Running 2.5 miles everyday is much easier. AND, my taste has improved drastically. I had Chik-Fil-A nuggets with Polynesian Sauce the other week. I was blown away by how good they were. If those aren't tangible benefits, I don't know what would be... Oh, I don't stink like an ashtray too. That's another one.
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AND, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol are what they use in those smoke machines at clubs/concerts/parties, etc.

Fog machine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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I took a proactive approach to this, and here's what I wrote on my Facebook, just to do my part and get the word out there amongst my family and friends. I don't know how many of you use Facebook, or have done this already, but I think the more we educate the people we know, the more they will spread it to those that they know:

Your facebook post is EXCELLENT! I'm putting together a handout that I can give to people who ask about vaping (cause I'm tired of repeating the long spiel so many times...). May I quote you for the handout (as "An Ex-Smoker's Story" w/ attribution to "cramptholomew on ECF")? It says *exactly* what I want to say about vaping... Please say yes!!
 
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