AgentAnia, I PM'd you back. Kind of a funny PM system, so if you didn't get it, I said, "Sure thing!"
Anyone else getting sick of ignorant anti vapors
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AgentAnia, I PM'd you back. Kind of a funny PM system, so if you didn't get it, I said, "Sure thing!"
AgentAnia, I PM'd you back. Kind of a funny PM system, so if you didn't get it, I said, "Sure thing!"
Yes I got it, and will echo my reply here: "Thank you thank you!!"
Your story is exactly what makes a real impression on people interested in vaping.
Glycerin is also used as a food additive, especially for baking, to give it sweetness and creaminess.
I'm not sick of it yet. I rather enjoy going into informative mode. I like telling people how easy it was to make the switch, and how after about 25 years of smoking I could breathe better after only two weeks. Most people aren't as much "anti-" as they are curious and uninformed.
The question that always gets me is "Is it cheaper?" I can only answer "It would be if I'd quit buying stuff!"
The question that always gets me is "Is it cheaper?" I can only answer "It would be if I'd quit buying stuff!"
Just got back from a vacation in Hawaii visiting family and after 20 years Smoking analogs I Vape my uncle was able to quit after having heart attack I told him when he was razzing me for the 100th time that day I informed him and my aunt that I can breathe and no more apnea
I'm not sick of it yet. I rather enjoy going into informative mode. I like telling people how easy it was to make the switch, and how after about 25 years of smoking I could breathe better after only two weeks. Most people aren't as much "anti-" as they are curious and uninformed.
The question that always gets me is "Is it cheaper?" I can only answer "It would be if I'd quit buying stuff!"
Good point. Quite often, on an emotional level, people are curious and want someone to tell them the bad things they've heard about vaping isn't all correct.
With those types I can live with. What really grinds my gears are the other types; the ones who try to convince you that everything they've half-heard on the the news is the ultimate truth...
- Never mind what kind of research you may have done (Heck, I researched on the topic of e-cigs for almost a month and an half, before I even bought my first setup! Health-related topics, mainly...)
- Never mind that you have been using the e-cig for more than four years.
- Never mind that on those four years, your health has improved greatly.
You have no idea what you're talking about. They are the experts, because they heard it on the news!...
Like that girl, friend of a friend of mine, whom I talked about some posts above? "You would be better of with a cigarette, because no-one knows what's in those?" While holding a lit cigarette?Well, she actually scolded my friend (the convert; hence my reaction at the time), saying he was using the e-cig just because it was a "new style", and implied that it was an irresponsible thing to do, because, you know, "no-one knows what's in those"... well, that conversation ended after I chimed in... unfortunately, I had not the change to explain (try, at least: some folks just won't listen) that:
a) A four-year habit is definitely not just a "new-style".
b) Despite what she believed, or rather what the bad media made her believe, the e-cig is not a contraption created just last week in Frankeinstein's lab!...
My old MD retired and had to change Drs. Old MD endorsed vaping and was very glad it helped me get off analogs. New and young MD is stanchly opposed to vaping, as he just went to a seminar where the health people told him that e-cigs still have a lot of carcinogens, that it is so unregulated that we don't know what is we are vaping, and that it is as bad as analogs, maybe more dangerous. He said the health industry will get involved to regulate this so everybody is safe. I attempted to provide him with some actual information but he just blew me off. The big health industry is gearing up to regulate this life saving product, and I find it quite disturbing. I did print off a study comparing the toxicity between analogs and e-cigs which I will give to him, but he seems to have that DR. god complex. I may have to find a new Dr. Anybody have any links of scientific studies I could give him ? Rant over, storm clouds on the horizon? Bob
The lesson here is before you give advise try to be sure you know what your talking about. We all do it we here something and take it to heart with out verifying the facts.
One of the things I like about vaping is all of the little life lessons associated with it.
If your a vapor you most likely know how it feels to be looked down on and discriminated against out of ignorance
You see just how much the corporate world influences politics and legislation they do not have our safety and best interest at heart they are bought and payed for to profit for others.
My hope is as we grow people who experience these things might have their eyes oped and apply these lessons to other parts of their lives.
Who'd of thought quitting smoking could involve some eye opening to whats going on around you!
One of the things I like about vaping is all of the little life lessons associated with it.
If your a vapor you most likely know how it feels to be looked down on and discriminated against out of ignorance
You see just how much the corporate world influences politics and legislation they do not have our safety and best interest at heart they are bought and payed for to profit for others.
My hope is as we grow people who experience these things might have their eyes oped and apply these lessons to other parts of their lives.
Who'd of thought quitting smoking could involve some eye opening to whats going on around you!
If I were you I would DEFINITELY get a new doctor, without question.
As far as something to give him to show how stupid his carcinogen comment is...
FDA's partial truths and exaggerations endanger health
As far as "we don't know what's in them" the only thing you can do is explain it to him.
If he won't listen, well, I would never let a person like that be my doctor in a million years.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
Nice. 25 years
I caught that also. 20 years here
DC-2---Thanks for the link. I will give that to him. I live in a rural community and the next available Dr. is 25-30 miles away, but I may change anyway. Thanks for the support. Bob
Absolutely a win. I liked smoking & didn't really want to stop despite how bad I knew it was for me and my family. Then one day there came a point where I really just couldn't afford it anymore. Smoking was too expensive and I had to choose between buying cigarettes and buying food for the family. That shouldn't be difficult, right? Well, for a seriously addicted smoker (2PPD Marlboro Red 100's for 30 yrs) with anxiety issues, it's harder than one might think. So my mother (also a smoker, but trying to quit via various means offered by her doctor - nicotine gum, etc.) brought me a Blucig kit that she said she saw on some late night TV ad & tried but she didn't like so I could give it a shot if I thought it might help me. Looked to me like she tried one cartridge & that's it - but it was the first time I'd ever heard of ecigs and looked/felt close enough to the real thing (including the cigarette pack shaped PCC box) that I was both amazed and interested. It took less than a day for me to realize that this could actually work - but that particular brand wasn't going to be enough to do it for me so I started looking into more options. After lots of trial experimentation (and a lot of learning from this forum), I'm very happy with my current iGo (KR808 fat batt) set up with crystal vision clearomizers and I've found a handful of juices that I like a lot & rotate throughout the day. I still haven't completely quit smoking yet but after really trying now for about 3 wks (there was a couple years I stopped trying a few months after I began experimenting because the sheer number of options and trying to find what combination worked best became overwhelming), I'm down 75% (to about half a pack a day) and I think I may be able to completely stop smoking altogether within another week or two.
The point of the story is that I wouldn't be where I am now if it weren't for the Blucig kit, so even though I moved on to bigger & better things, that first intro to Blucigs ultimately led to a win. If somebody had offered to take me to a B&M initially, before I experimented a little on my own, I probably wouldn't have been interested at all. When I started out, it had to look & feel like a cigarette. Now, I don't want it to look or feel like a cigarette at all since I want to vape, not smoke - but it took me some time to get there.
I get aggrivated with those nuts that tell me my Provari is worse than smoking and, proceed to point out that it contains PG, Nicotine and flavoring is all. PG, also used in asthma inhalers and, countless foods and other products (If I'm at a grocery store, I drag them in to show them some in ice cream and salad dressing.) Nicotine is in eggplant, peppers, tomatoes and several other healthy things in the produce department, and flavoring, well, gee, you eat all sorts of things with flavoring and, probably have at least vanilla in your cupboards at home right now.
They hush after that, realizing they ingest the same things every day and, wouldn't be happy w/o them. LOL.
Okay I know what we use isn't always the same as what's in the grocery store, but they don't so, it's effective.
They hush after that, realizing they ingest the same things every day and, wouldn't be happy w/o them. LOL.
Okay I know what we use isn't always the same as what's in the grocery store, but they don't so, it's effective.
Wow I have never had anyone really even ask about my ecigs...
besides family and friends I have only had one person even comment on my ecig, I had just got vamo V3 and had a vivi on it. Driving in the Volvo and was messing with boost controller and guy pulls up next to me and was yelling with window down, I thought he wanted to run as I was just testing at higher PSI to stop fuel cut and so I rolled window down and when we get to light he says "Wow what ecig is that it is bad ..." told him and then he asked where I got it and then gave thumbs up and asked if I could let his wife hear my turbo wastegate....Truth, Women love the sound of boost- ok maybe not true but I do I guess I could care less about what people think but I think the less people that know about them the better....Kinda wish that cheap ones are not in stores as the a-holes just want to ban them and if no one knew about them then no one would care, DOuble edge sword as with out knowledge people make stupid assumptions so to each its own! Strapped
besides family and friends I have only had one person even comment on my ecig, I had just got vamo V3 and had a vivi on it. Driving in the Volvo and was messing with boost controller and guy pulls up next to me and was yelling with window down, I thought he wanted to run as I was just testing at higher PSI to stop fuel cut and so I rolled window down and when we get to light he says "Wow what ecig is that it is bad ..." told him and then he asked where I got it and then gave thumbs up and asked if I could let his wife hear my turbo wastegate....Truth, Women love the sound of boost- ok maybe not true but I do
I guess I could care less about what people think but I think the less people that know about them the better....Kinda wish that cheap ones are not in stores as the a-holes just want to ban them and if no one knew about them then no one would care, DOuble edge sword as with out knowledge people make stupid assumptions so to each its own! Strapped
I keep a convenience store blueberry muffin in my purse. I don't eat it.
I pull it out when people ask what's in my juice which states PG and VG. Then I ask the person I'm speaking with if they want to share that muffin and they say of course. Then I flip the label around and show them the same two ingredients in my blueberry muffin.
After that, people shut the front door and literally eat their words.
I pull it out when people ask what's in my juice which states PG and VG. Then I ask the person I'm speaking with if they want to share that muffin and they say of course. Then I flip the label around and show them the same two ingredients in my blueberry muffin.
After that, people shut the front door and literally eat their words.
God, I thought I was the only one to see that!! It seems like the gene pool is getting shallower and shallower. Need to have it cleaned! LOL!
("Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not a POOL MAN!!")
("Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not a POOL MAN!!")
Not try to hijack the thread, but I graduated from Schaumburg H.S.! What a small world.
Yea! Every time I mention that movie to others, no one knows what I'm talking about and it's coming true! For those that didn't see it, it's done by the same guy who did "Office Space" and is just as wacked out funny.
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