Are Mechanical Mods Going the Way of the Dodo Bird?

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i dont see any real downsides to mechs now that I look at it again, if you are educated and know what you are doing. The VV/VW just come with more 'convenience' but the downside is they are not as bulletproof in durability as mechs. For some that is not much of a downside so they go for VV/VW, for others they are just used to mechs and never had any issues or reason to go to VV/VW. It's not really that mechs are outdated or becoming extinct. I just think more people are picking up VV/VW nowadays due to the convenience, there is nothing wrong with mechs that I believe they are going to become obsolete, because they have the simplicity of no electrical boards and thus are bulletproof and highly durable. There will always be that niche for the purist that mech mods will always be present.
 
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I don't think mechs are on their way out. I prefer them for the same reason I don't want to buy a new car to replace my 2004 Pontiac. The newer model cars have so many features now but what I see is lots of stuff that can go wrong, and some of it will be very expensive to replace. I notice the headlights on new cars now, instead of one bulb there are now rows of tiny little bulbs that may look "cool" but to me look like a potential pain in my hiney. I prefer simple and my mechs are about as simple as a simple can be and the parts that can go bad are inexpensive and easy to replace.
 

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:p yep. So easy to replace a top cap, or a tube, or a spring! I actually am in the market for a mech mod 'in case' my vv/vw's go bad. That is something I prefer to buy an 'authentic' in cuz I know it will last. But personally for a mech 'authentic' reasonable price range is abotu 100-200$ for me being as its just a tube with minimal components to it. People can cry at me all they want for not wantign to spend 300$+ for an authentic mod but thats me, i think tube mods should only be in the ~200$ range at most unless its like superman steel titanium plated indestructable super secret component color changing material lol.
 

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There's folks who still fly biplanes, drive classic cars, collect vinyl records, and so on and so forth...

Basically, all stuff that's not exactly the pinnacle of technology.

Same with mech mods.

There may be more advanced stuff available, but there will always be vapers who are enjoying the tinkering part of it :)

Vape on - mech or tech - as long as you're enjoiying it is all what matters :)
 

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You like to read into......... reminds me of another...... never mind.

Actually yes, many do DIY - Visit the e-liquid/DIY sub-forums
They also understand more than wrapping a wire tightly around a drill bit. Little things like Resistance, Air Flow, Proper Coil Placement, correct wicking, etc.
Many Mechanical Mod owners are very well versed in how Vaping actually works.

Now, I'd almost bet every Mech owner you saw coming in for Coil builds Bought their Mechanical Mod on the Persuasion of a Sales person or the Recommendation of a trusted friend. If they cannot build a coil, they were duped on either account.

You did notice I did not say ALL mechanical owners, right?
Heck there are some Vapors I have seen that no matter what they try to use, they worry me.:facepalm:

Edit to add: What you may be missing from my lack of information in original post is that Mechanical mods seem to be a Natural progression for many Vapors. Often the Glitz of a fancy Vape Shop environment has long worn off and they remain unseen therefor uncounted.

As to reading into minds... its easy when you make vague statements! :ohmy:

I believe that the new progression will be from e-go style starters straight to box mods, time will tell. They're less expensive, more forgiving, and easier to deal with IMHO.

As a bit of a newb to vapes but a total tech nerd... I have no interest is a straight mech mod/converted flashlight that is good for the first 30-60 minutes of vaping then either flavor continues to dimish, or its time to get a fresh batt. I can vape nearly all day @ 20-30 watts on my regulated box mod before switching batts.
 

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I personally prefer a regulated vape for its consistent vape quality. It is also great to have the protection and to be able to Slap a build on it and tailer your power to your resistance instead of having to build to your battery. These are the reasons I recommend regulated mods to noobs.
I think mechs will continue to be popular with a niche of vapers. Some are a thing of beauty, and generally they are compact and simple.
I see the cloud chasers gravitating toward regulated mods which I think is good because they can get the big clouds with out building stupid low on a mech.


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I personally prefer a regulated vape for its consistent vape quality. It is also great to have the protection and to be able to Slap a build on it and tailer your power to your resistance instead of having to build to your battery. These are the reasons I recommend regulated mods to noobs.
I think mechs will continue to be popular with a niche of vapers. Some are a thing of beauty, and generally they are compact and simple.
I see the cloud chasers gravitating toward regulated mods which I think is good because they can get the big clouds with out building stupid low on a mech.

I couldn't agree more! Mechs will fill a niche as electronic regulated box mods take over... imo!

As to parts, sure a mech mod has fewer parts to go wrong in the first place, but there is (or should be) a concern over uneducated newbs using them and possible creating a hand grenade! A regulated mod is inherently safer, not infallible, only safer initially!

I saw more mechs come into the shop with button or 510 post issues yesterday in 4 hours than I did see with box mods. 3 damaged mechs and zero box mods! Also one of the mech mod owners walked out happily with a new Segelei 150 watt box, an Atlantis, and a Mutation X v.3...
 

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As to reading into minds... its easy when you make vague statements! :ohmy:

I believe that the new progression will be from e-go style starters straight to box mods, time will tell. They're less expensive, more forgiving, and easier to deal with IMHO.

As a bit of a newb to vapes but a total tech nerd... I have no interest is a straight mech mod/converted flashlight that is good for the first 30-60 minutes of vaping then either flavor continues to dimish, or its time to get a fresh batt. I can vape nearly all day @ 20-30 watts on my regulated box mod before switching batts.

Guess this is why it is called a FORUM :)
 

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I saw more mechs come into the shop with button or 510 post issues yesterday in 4 hours than I did see with box mods. 3 damaged mechs and zero box mods! Also one of the mech mod owners walked out happily with a new Segelei 150 watt box, an Atlantis, and a Mutation X v.3...
Inductive reasoning is a logical fallacy. Therefore, either your premises, conclusion, or both are false. You might very well be right. However, using a flawed argument and also taking an arrogant attitude towards those who disagree does nothing to help your case.

Let me provide an example to demonstrate why induction is so poor. I own both regulated mods and mechs. I rarely use my regulated mods. Therefore, regulated mods are going the way of the dodo.

To get back to the actual topic, I'm noticing a shift in the mech marketplace. There are a number of more affordable authentic mods, and we're also starting to see alternatives to the simple tube-and-switch design. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months we see the pendulum swinging again.
 

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To get back to the actual topic, I'm noticing a shift in the mech marketplace. There are a number of more affordable authentic mods, and we're also starting to see alternatives to the simple tube-and-switch design. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months we see the pendulum swinging again.

This occurred about a year ago as the Clone Market bloomed. Mech Mods started selling like hotcakes. - Just commenting on what happened.

I can't even figure out why people start post and get ticked off for receiving honest answers.
** By the way, I own 9 Regulated Mods. I still enjoy my Mechanical mods. Diversity is fun. :)
 

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I do not get your correlation here; mech mod owners are self reliant and don't need to hang out at a B&M? Do they also make all their own juice, etc?

My observations yesterday to not support your statement. I saw several mech mod owners come into my local B&M yesterday for new coil builds. So clearly not all mech owners are self-reliant. I mean how freaking hard is it to wrap wire tightly around a drillbit or screwdriver?

Not hard at all, and I really don't even see the point of those coil gig thingies, exactly because MAKING a coil isn't hard at all. Mounting it might be a little more challenging, depending on the atty design. Those not capable of making their own coils, have no business with a mech, PERIOD -- it's so easy to do, if they can't manage that, how in the world are they going to manage battery safety???

I don't see them going away, no; I just ordered a 2nd one, as part of my vapocalypse prep, because I have neither the know-how nor the proper tools to "mod" a flashlight tube into a vaping device. I want to have at least a couple of devices that I know will endure, far past the endurance of electronic devices -- just in case the goobers in DC do something so drastic that vaping cannot continue as we know it.

But I do prefer my electronic devices, for all the reasons mentioned, but mainly for convenience.

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Inductive reasoning is a logical fallacy. Therefore, either your premises, conclusion, or both are false. You might very well be right. However, using a flawed argument and also taking an arrogant attitude towards those who disagree does nothing to help your case.

Let me provide an example to demonstrate why induction is so poor. I own both regulated mods and mechs. I rarely use my regulated mods. Therefore, regulated mods are going the way of the dodo.

To get back to the actual topic, I'm noticing a shift in the mech marketplace. There are a number of more affordable authentic mods, and we're also starting to see alternatives to the simple tube-and-switch design. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months we see the pendulum swinging again.

It wasn't just this shop, or this particular visit to this shop; it's been a cumulative observance over time and several shops. Even a look vape shops stock will show the increase in popularity of regulated mods over mech. Or at least in my area it is!
 

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I prefer a vv/vw for my tanks. I prefer a mech mod for my RBAs. Boxes can be as unsafe as a mech mod (ie clouper mini) although most boxes offer circuit protection. Equipment safety is only as reliable as the operator. From what I have seen most issues are due to PBCAV (problem between chair and vape).

Getting back to the topic, I think mech mods are not on the way out.
 

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Not hard at all, and I really don't even see the point of those coil gig thingies, exactly because MAKING a coil isn't hard at all. Mounting it might be a little more challenging, depending on the atty design. Those not capable of making their own coils, have no business with a mech, PERIOD -- it's so easy to do, if they can't manage that, how in the world are they going to manage battery safety???

I don't see them going away, no; I just ordered a 2nd one, as part of my vapocalypse prep, because I have neither the know-how nor the proper tools to "mod" a flashlight tube into a vaping device. I want to have at least a couple of devices that I know will endure, far past the endurance of electronic devices -- just in case the goobers in DC do something so drastic that vaping cannot continue as we know it.

But I do prefer my electronic devices, for all the reasons mentioned, but mainly for convenience.

Andria

Coil gig thngies? Do you mean tools like the coil master?

I agree that there are many mech users out there that are young and inexperienced who probably shouldn't be using a mech or rebuildable atty! It's not they're fault, some people are just not mechanically/mathematically inclined. I also feel that safety should be most important, and regulated mods pretty much cure that!
 

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I personally use both, each has their own special things I like about them. My regulated I use for when I have a ADV and run my Subtank on and then I use my mech with an RDA for flavor tasting and when I am @ home or the b&m tinkering around. I think those will be around for a very long time as far as the vaping world goes. Just my :2c:
 

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As to reading into minds... its easy when you make vague statements! :ohmy:

I believe that the new progression will be from e-go style starters straight to box mods, time will tell. They're less expensive, more forgiving, and easier to deal with IMHO.

As a bit of a newb to vapes but a total tech nerd... I have no interest is a straight mech mod/converted flashlight that is good for the first 30-60 minutes of vaping then either flavor continues to dimish, or its time to get a fresh batt. I can vape nearly all day @ 20-30 watts on my regulated box mod before switching batts.

Interesting... I vape at 50 watts all day on my mech and have never had to change the battery twice in one day, sometimes only every other day. The size to power, or (and often price to power) ratio simply cannot be beaten by a regulated device. There's no regulator stealing efficiency in my SMPL, hence the absurd battery life.

I agree that regulated is far more user-friendly, and I'd generally prefer that some people using mechs were not (see: New Members Forum). But, mechs will never die. Hell, after the FDA gets its hands on vaping, your choices may be cigalike, ego, or "flashlight".

But, all that aside. The real reason mechs will never go away? Squonking.
 
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