Are Mechanical Mods Going the Way of the Dodo Bird?
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I never said "as safe as a regulated device".
Please show me the post.
Don't need luck. I have knowledge. Much mo' better
What I said was" safely". I don't vape a build like that, but I have done it. Safely, with no problems.
I've seen lower, but the vape isn't pleasing to me.
You need 20g to get that low. The wire is thick and doesn't heat up
As fast as 24g
I can tell by your responses that none of you should try building that low, nor would I recommend it.
Article you might want to check out/
http://spinfuel.com/fresh-build-friday-20g-macro-coils/
I made the statement to make a point.
Some people do not want or need the many limitations associated with a regulated device.
I have a ZNAclone that gathers dust.
Read the abridged quote below.
No, you do not possess the knowledge that you think you do. 0.02 ohms as measured by any ohm reader including custom setups is within the margin of error to be considered 0.00 ohms, a dead short. It is not even remotely safe and should not be discussed on an internet forum filled with tons of people who don't know better than to not try it. I dont really care if you want to play with dynamite, but you should be prepared to lose a few fingers or worse.
The link you posted is to a blog post by a dude that posted a picture of some super subohm coils built with 20g wire, I'm not sure how it is relevant to this discussion at all.
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I have to update this, I ended up getting a box mod because in a matter of 5 seconds I immediately seen the advantage over a mech mod. One morning I rolled out of bed, decided I was going to tank it up with my Atlantis, strapped it on and took a rip. As soon as I hit the button and inhaled I knew something went really wrong. I heard this strange noise come from my mod and I got no vape. The tube went from cold to incredibly hot in a matter or seconds and I panicked. In one swift motion I unscrewed the mod, ran out side and chucked the battery about 30 feet away into 2 feet deep of snow. I had hard shorted my battery and there was nothing there to stop it. It happened because of the pin on the pin on the atlantis, it mad FULL contact to the battery and shorted it. After all this happened I went back in side gather my thoughts and pondered what had happened. I described it to some seasoned vapers and they describe it to me. I should also add that the battery that vented, the one I threw 30 feet away into a pile of snow 2 feet deep had managed to burrow a hole in the snow. This wasn't just any hole this was a 1 foot wide hole that reached the ground threw 2 feet of snow!!!! I went out that day and bought a Segelei 100w Box Mod. I highly recommend anyone who uses a mech mod to use extreme caution. Thankfully I was in a position that I could throw my shorted battery into a 2 foot pile of snow. Do your safety and sanity a favor get a regulated mod with a safety fuse. And yea sure IRM's don't typically explose, but anything that will create that amount of heat to melt 2 feet of snow in close to 0 degree weather is still no joke. BE CAREFUL!
Lol
Well sorta...
It actually started as a typo, (.20 )but I just couldn't resist going for the troll.
I had no idea it was still being seriously discussed.
Lol
Well sorta...
It actually started as a typo, (.20 )but I just couldn't resist going for the troll.
I had no idea it was still being seriously discussed.
LOL!
The problem is now that it's on here some young, flat brimmed hat and skinny jeans wearing, expanded earlobe kid is going to try this and blow themselves up!
Even though I'm big on mechs, I'll be the first to say my Sigelei 150 is such ridiculously higher quality than the 6 vamo styles I still have. I've yet to hear of one dying in the first 2 months like you always saw with those garbage tube VVs. Although it's nearly the size of 4 18650s overall. If it were the size of my wife's Sigelei mini but held the dual batteries @ 150 watts? I probably would shelve the mechs. It's really nice to start my morning off @ 20 watts and notch it up as I wake up and get moving. Once I'm on the job the Sig stays in the truck and my new favorite to carry on me all day is a Kanger Subtank on the 26650 2Six. Of course it doesn't punch like the dark horse or doge v2 but not having to even think about dripping for hours is showing it's value big time.
When it comes to durability, I've dropped the Sig twice now without a scratch thanks to the silicone sleeve but I've destroyed 2 mech mods from dropping them on their switches. The Stingray X is now completely out of commission as the weight of a Tugboat+18650+Stingray itself completely raped the threads, distorted the shape so the lock ring won't spin freely, snapped a magnet in half, and stripped the copper pin that plunges into the battery. Copper is too damn soft. Broke my heart as well as that thing was a 10 in the looks dept. In some cases I think the boxes are likely to be MORE durable. If I'd paid for an authentic Stingray X to have that happen I'd feel like a total idiot right about now. Thankfully it was a 1:1 clone. My best friend also destroyed his X from the exact same thing so we've replaced them with the 18650 2Sixes since those switches seem a little stouter.
All in all, if I was forced to stick to only one camp? I'd likely go with the Sig as there's things it can do that I simply can't do on a mech. Specifically huge coils for giant surface area that end up around .8-1.5 ohms. On a mech these fizzle but on the Sig @ 80-90 watts they throw vapor like my 0.1 ohm builds but throw flavor like a .7-.8 ohm build since there's a larger area that's not getting as hot and nuking the juice. I could go back to quad and hex coils but those are a PITA to cram into an RDA, wick, then hope they don't short on the barrel. And pushing a single battery to 45 amps makes noone comfortable.
More people want to start vaping easily and quickly these days. They don't want to learn about batteries, ohms law, coil building. They would prefer to just screw in a coil and start vaping.
Whilst vv / vw box mods seem to be popular these days, mechs are still popular and vape fashions will change. There will always be those who prefer something that looks amazing, is well designed, and nigh on indestructible. Or those who prefer something small but still powerful.
Personally I prefer the look of a stylish tube mech, building great coils is satisfying, and having the knowledge to safely build a range of coils for a variety of atomizers and vaping experiences is empowering. Though of course I can see situations where a vv / vw mod would provide a better vape; but not many. Occasionally one just can't build a coil and have the perfect power, size, diameter, ramp up time, and flavour; without sacrificing something.
It will be curious to see what happens when smaller batteries have a greater capacity and current, and someone creates a possibly much smaller kick like device with a useful range.
Whilst vv / vw box mods seem to be popular these days, mechs are still popular and vape fashions will change. There will always be those who prefer something that looks amazing, is well designed, and nigh on indestructible. Or those who prefer something small but still powerful.
Personally I prefer the look of a stylish tube mech, building great coils is satisfying, and having the knowledge to safely build a range of coils for a variety of atomizers and vaping experiences is empowering. Though of course I can see situations where a vv / vw mod would provide a better vape; but not many. Occasionally one just can't build a coil and have the perfect power, size, diameter, ramp up time, and flavour; without sacrificing something.
It will be curious to see what happens when smaller batteries have a greater capacity and current, and someone creates a possibly much smaller kick like device with a useful range.
ita. I don't get the judgment calls. People who use mechs are not better than people who use regulated mods, or vice versa. It's a preference. I prefer stuff I can fix, and detest facing broken gear. That happened a couple of times with egos, once with a Spinner, and it's annoying.
As far as coil building, I'll make a judgment call: I don't get people who use rebuildables, yet don't bother to learn how to rebuild. Why drag yourself to a b&m when you can just fix the thing yourself? This is true with a mech, or a regulated mod.
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