Are YOU a Tootle Puffer??

[AndriaD]

Salmon fishing off the coast of British Columbia in August 2004 The first pic is of the first salmon I ever caught - but after that I got the big one!

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Myt husband sez in his next life, he wants to be a grizzly bear... so he can just stand out in the stream and grab salmon and pop 'em into his mouth.

We had salmon for dinner Monday night... it was our 28th anniversary, so I fixed the meal that I knew was nearest and dearest to his heart. And good for that heart, too!

Andria

 

[chopdoc]

A question for Tootle Puffers using TC.

Let's first describe me as a vaper. I like to tootle puff mostly, vape like I used to smoke - short mindless puffs in quick succession. I dislike hot vaping. My Kanthal coils usually range from 1.4 to 2 ohms. I keep my regulated mods on 3.9 to 4.2 volts and go with whatever wattage that gives me on whatever coil I am using. Usually it is closer to 3.9 volts and very rarely above 4. My airflow is usually half open, particularly on my Lemo II. If I have a particularly good and creamy juice loaded I might take the occasional full air flow long puff and enjoy a bit of cloud. But that is a conscious and deliberate kind of vape that depends on a particular mood and doesn't happen very often.

Now I have been thinking of getting the iStick 40 TC. I want something that is cheap and cheerful. The mAh on it is rather modest but then I can go almost a full day on my iStick 20 which has even lower mAh. I want something that i can fully wrap my hand around, with no square edges. 40 watts on my Kanthal coils is way above my needs since I hardly ever go beyond 20 watts even on my iStick 50 - so that does not come into the equation at all.

What I would like to ask is whether I can go on vaping like I do using TC. I have 200ft of 29AWG nickel 200 which I bought in error but from Steam Engine it looks like I would have to go pretty low ohms using that within a reasonable number of wraps. Would Titanium be a better option or doesn't that make any difference at all in TC. I would very much appreciate your input.

Please make your replies apply to me - telling me to get a better, more expensive mod (I buy only from fasttech) or questioning why I should want TC in the first place would not be addressing my question.

Thanks in advance.

PS: If you know of anything that is comparable in size and same kind of ballpark as for price but with interchangeable batteries I would be game too.

This thing you ask of, yes. You can go on vaping like you described with TC. Is the Istick 40 TC any good, I donno.

 

[chopdoc]

Thank you.
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Happy belated birthday TJ.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Myt husband sez in his next life, he wants to be a grizzly bear... so he can just stand out in the stream and grab salmon and pop 'em into his mouth.

We had salmon for dinner Monday night... it was our 28th anniversary, so I fixed the meal that I knew was nearest and dearest to his heart. And good for that heart, too!

Andria

Maybe he likes the idea of sleeping for months?

 

[AndriaD]

A question for Tootle Puffers using TC.

Let's first describe me as a vaper. I like to tootle puff mostly, vape like I used to smoke - short mindless puffs in quick succession. I dislike hot vaping. My Kanthal coils usually range from 1.4 to 2 ohms. I keep my regulated mods on 3.9 to 4.2 volts and go with whatever wattage that gives me on whatever coil I am using. Usually it is closer to 3.9 volts and very rarely above 4. My airflow is usually half open, particularly on my Lemo II. If I have a particularly good and creamy juice loaded I might take the occasional full air flow long puff and enjoy a bit of cloud. But that is a conscious and deliberate kind of vape that depends on a particular mood and doesn't happen very often.

Now I have been thinking of getting the iStick 40 TC. I want something that is cheap and cheerful. The mAh on it is rather modest but then I can go almost a full day on my iStick 20 which has even lower mAh. I want something that i can fully wrap my hand around, with no square edges. 40 watts on my Kanthal coils is way above my needs since I hardly ever go beyond 20 watts even on my iStick 50 - so that does not come into the equation at all.

What I would like to ask is whether I can go on vaping like I do using TC. I have 200ft of 29AWG nickel 200 which I bought in error but from Steam Engine it looks like I would have to go pretty low ohms using that within a reasonable number of wraps. Would Titanium be a better option or doesn't that make any difference at all in TC. I would very much appreciate your input.

Please make your replies apply to me - telling me to get a better, more expensive mod (I buy only from Fasttech) or questioning why I should want TC in the first place would not be addressing my question.

Thanks in advance.

PS: If you know of anything that is comparable in size and same kind of ballpark as for price but with interchangeable batteries I would be game too.

Ok.. 1st and foremost, yes, you can absolutely tootle puff using a TC mod, and it's not hot or harsh or anything like that -- normally I'm tootling around 8-9 watts, which ain't exactly setting anything on fire.

As far as nickel, I can't really say yay or nay, because I went the titanium route; I suspect I'm sensitive to nickel.

The sub-ohm coil is ONLY because of the properties of nickel or titanium; it does not make the thing a "cloud machine" -- it's heat that generates clouds, and since it's a TC mod, you can set any temp you like -- mine is set at anything between 370F-390F -- no idea how that converts to C, but it's on the low end, not really hot at all -- most of those who like hotter or cloudier vapes are somewhere between 400F-500F.

What is the mAh rating of the iStick TC 40w? Because I got the Evic-VT which is 60w, 5000mAh, and it runs down much faster than my 2200mAh 30w iSticks, or my 2000mAh 40w Coolfire4 -- I suspect that's because it's sensing watts, temp, and resistance all at once, real time -- you can watch all 3 of them fluctuating as you take a hit -- and apparently all that real-time monitoring takes a real toll on the battery. Also I would say that 40w is probably enough; I have mine set to 35w, but the only function of the wattage in TC mode is to bring the coil quickly up to the set temp -- once it's at that temp, the TC kicks in so it doesn't go higher, and the watts drop -- hence all the real-time monitoring that really sucks the battery. But if you like it any warmer than about 400F 9whatever that is in C), then 40w might not be quite enough.

I'm kind of a tightwad, so I wouldn't have gone with a super-expensive mod -- fortunately the Evic-VT, in the express kit, is only $49.99, at VapeNW -- and that includes a charge cable AND a silicone cover for the mod. If you already have a 1amp wall wart, you don't need to buy the full kit; you can use any rebuildable atty on it, and just use nickel or titanium wire to coil it. It does have to be below 1ohm to work in TC mode, and lower is better, because apparently the resistance climbs as it gets hot, and if it goes over 1 ohm, it will drop out of TC mode. (the Evic-VT is smaller than it looks in pics, but it's also rather heavy -- much heavier than the CF4 for instance).

Andria

 

[Papillon61]

Happy Anniversary @AndriaD

 

[Electrodave]

My wife wanted a vacuum cleaner for Christmas one year. I actually tried to talk her out of it, because I didn't want to be that guy who gave his wife a vacuum for Christmas.

I got her the vacuum cleaner. A really nice (and expensive) Dyson. She insisted.

If I could get her to try to quit smoking I would shower her with vaping gear.

 

[Papillon61]

This thing you ask of, yes. You can go on vaping like you described with TC. Is the Istick 40 TC any good, I donno.

Ok.. 1st and foremost, yes, you can absolutely tootle puff using a TC mod, and it's not hot or harsh or anything like that -- normally I'm tootling around 8-9 watts, which ain't exactly setting anything on fire.

As far as nickel, I can't really say yay or nay, because I went the titanium route; I suspect I'm sensitive to nickel.

The sub-ohm coil is ONLY because of the properties of nickel or titanium; it does not make the thing a "cloud machine" -- it's heat that generates clouds, and since it's a TC mod, you can set any temp you like -- mine is set at anything between 370F-390F -- no idea how that converts to C, but it's on the low end, not really hot at all -- most of those who like hotter or cloudier vapes are somewhere between 400F-500F.

What is the mAh rating of the iStick TC 40w? Because I got the Evic-VT which is 60w, 5000mAh, and it runs down much faster than my 2200mAh 30w iSticks, or my 2000mAh 40w Coolfire4 -- I suspect that's because it's sensing watts, temp, and resistance all at once, real time -- you can watch all 3 of them fluctuating as you take a hit -- and apparently all that real-time monitoring takes a real toll on the battery. Also I would say that 40w is probably enough; I have mine set to 35w, but the only function of the wattage in TC mode is to bring the coil quickly up to the set temp -- once it's at that temp, the TC kicks in so it doesn't go higher, and the watts drop -- hence all the real-time monitoring that really sucks the battery. But if you like it any warmer than about 400F 9whatever that is in C), then 40w might not be quite enough.

I'm kind of a tightwad, so I wouldn't have gone with a super-expensive mod -- fortunately the Evic-VT, in the express kit, is only $49.99, at VapeNW -- and that includes a charge cable AND a silicone cover for the mod. If you already have a 1amp wall wart, you don't need to buy the full kit; you can use any rebuildable atty on it, and just use nickel or titanium wire to coil it. It does have to be below 1ohm to work in TC mode, and lower is better, because apparently the resistance climbs as it gets hot, and if it goes over 1 ohm, it will drop out of TC mode. (the Evic-VT is smaller than it looks in pics, but it's also rather heavy -- much heavier than the CF4 for instance).

Andria

Thank you both for your replies - and thank you @AndriaD for being so comprehensive. The iStick is 2600mAh so yes, it is rather on the low side but the the mod is very small and has only one battery whereas I suspect the larger Evic carries 2. And no, I don't think I would enjoy a very warm vape so I think 40watts is more than I will ever need - even 30 is daredevil for me.. only attempted on a couple of occasions when I wanted to be like in your face and not enjoyed at all. All in all I think at the price - a mere $30 - it's worth a try. It would have been nice to have an interchangeable battery set up, but again at the price 300 cycles is probably good.

Thanks again.

 

[AndriaD]

Maybe he likes the idea of sleeping for months?

That too, I'm sure -- but he eats his salmon raw if you can believe that -- he says that raw salmon tastes like steak!

Andria

 

[tj99959]

The stores here have Silvers (Coho) in right now. My favorite of all Salmon. Guess I'll fill up the freezer.

 

[AndriaD]

Thank you both for your replies - and thank you @AndriaD for being so comprehensive. The iStick is 2600mAh so yes, it is rather on the low side but the the mod is very small and has only one battery whereas I suspect the larger Evic carries 2. And no, I don't think I would enjoy a very warm vape so I think 40watts is more than I will ever need - even 30 is daredevil for me.. only attempted on a couple of occasions when I wanted to be like in your face and not enjoyed at all. All in all I think at the price - a mere $30 - it's worth a try. It would have been nice to have an interchangeable battery set up, but again at the price 300 cycles is probably good.

Thanks again.

But the wattage is really irrelevant to the heat of the vape -- that is set independently; the wattage is ONLY to bring it to that set temp, and when it gets there, the watts drop -- or if the wick starts to get dry, it won't take nearly that many watts to bring it to the set temp -- for the temp of the actual vape, the set temp is the relevant point, not the wattage. Which means that the "set wattage" is really *max* watts it will use, but it may use a lower wattage if that's all it needs to get to the set temp. (ETA: that's probably true about the Evic having 2 batteries, it's so heavy -- but it drains the battery really fast -- so it's not so much you would need more watts, but that you might need more battery life, to really make it practical.)

Andria

 

[Papillon61]

My wife wanted a vacuum cleaner for Christmas one year. I actually tried to talk her out of it, because I didn't want to be that guy who gave his wife a vacuum for Christmas.

I got her the vacuum cleaner. A really nice (and expensive) Dyson. She insisted.

 

[Electrodave]

That too, I'm sure -- but he eats his salmon raw if you can believe that -- he says that raw salmon tastes like steak!

Andria

Salmon and albacore tuna are both great served cold and uncooked, but I don't think that they taste like steak. They both taste like fish. Yummy fish.

I wonder if anyone makes salmon flavored ejuice?

 

[Boden]

Ok.. 1st and foremost, yes, you can absolutely tootle puff using a TC mod, and it's not hot or harsh or anything like that -- normally I'm tootling around 8-9 watts, which ain't exactly setting anything on fire.

As far as nickel, I can't really say yay or nay, because I went the titanium route; I suspect I'm sensitive to nickel.

The sub-ohm coil is ONLY because of the properties of nickel or titanium; it does not make the thing a "cloud machine" -- it's heat that generates clouds, and since it's a TC mod, you can set any temp you like -- mine is set at anything between 370F-390F -- no idea how that converts to C, but it's on the low end, not really hot at all -- most of those who like hotter or cloudier vapes are somewhere between 400F-500F.

What is the mAh rating of the iStick TC 40w? Because I got the Evic-VT which is 60w, 5000mAh, and it runs down much faster than my 2200mAh 30w iSticks, or my 2000mAh 40w Coolfire4 -- I suspect that's because it's sensing watts, temp, and resistance all at once, real time -- you can watch all 3 of them fluctuating as you take a hit -- and apparently all that real-time monitoring takes a real toll on the battery. Also I would say that 40w is probably enough; I have mine set to 35w, but the only function of the wattage in TC mode is to bring the coil quickly up to the set temp -- once it's at that temp, the TC kicks in so it doesn't go higher, and the watts drop -- hence all the real-time monitoring that really sucks the battery. But if you like it any warmer than about 400F 9whatever that is in C), then 40w might not be quite enough.

I'm kind of a tightwad, so I wouldn't have gone with a super-expensive mod -- fortunately the Evic-VT, in the express kit, is only $49.99, at VapeNW -- and that includes a charge cable AND a silicone cover for the mod. If you already have a 1amp wall wart, you don't need to buy the full kit; you can use any rebuildable atty on it, and just use nickel or titanium wire to coil it. It does have to be below 1ohm to work in TC mode, and lower is better, because apparently the resistance climbs as it gets hot, and if it goes over 1 ohm, it will drop out of TC mode. (the Evic-VT is smaller than it looks in pics, but it's also rather heavy -- much heavier than the CF4 for instance).

Andria

It's not so much the monitoring as it is heating a wire with really low resistance. It takes a lot more current to heat a low resistance wire to the same temperature as a kanthal build. So you are going to suck batteries dry a lot faster.

 

[tj99959]

Thinks I'll pass on the salmon flavored ejuice !

Wonders what that would smell like after it "steeped" for a week

 

[AndriaD]

Just thinking about the differences in how TC and non-TC mods handle wattage --

A TC mod, you set the watts, and it won't use more watts than that, in fact it might use less.

With a vw mod, it will always use *at least* as much wattage as you select, and the temp could go quite high, if you take a long hit, if you have a tight draw, or the wick starts to dry.

With a TC mod, no matter the operating conditions -- tight draw, long hit, dry wick -- it will never go higher than the set temp, which might take a lot fewer watts to reach, given any of those conditions.

Andria

 

[Boden]

9W from 0.15ohms uses 7.7A
9W from 1.5ohms uses 2.4A

 

[Papillon61]

Salmon and albacore tuna are both great served cold and uncooked, but I don't think that they taste like steak. They both taste like fish. Yummy fish.

I wonder if anyone makes salmon flavored ejuice?

Magie in Cucina :: Aromi Salati :: Aroma Salmone affumicato - Dettaglio del prodotto - FlavourArt - La sartoria degli aromi

 

[AndriaD]

It's not so much the monitoring as it is heating a wire with really low resistance. It takes a lot more current to heat a low resistance wire to the same temperature as a kanthal build. So you are going to suck batteries dry a lot faster.

You're right, that probably is a significant reason why it sucks batteries -- plus all that real-time monitoring. And since you'd need a sub-ohm coil for TC, all the more reason why 2600mAh is rather skimpy for TC use.

Andria

 

[Boden]

For everyone who isn't an electrician.

Watts is the end product, in this case heat, current (Amps) is the quantity of electricity you are using.