Edwv30, I don't intend to stop the debate. On two threads...this one and one other I asked for a list of action items...that also didn't gain much traction. While some are rightfully concerned about diacetyl as I am...there doesn't seem to be much traction in action at this point. So for a time I gave up. I've got a job and a family and while, I want to be a advocate for doing something positive to keep vaping available and safer (we will never be completely safe using nicotine)...I need help from ECF forum members who care about this. I was shot down previously on having a sticky posted, and that's why I posted the letter and thread. I don't think it is enough, but I thought was low hanging fruit. I'll try to find my list and post it again. Thank you for your response.
Panini, I am sorry that you got a less than desirable response from that supplier. I am mostly DIY because of the cost savings and enjoyment I get, but also the level of control it gives me over the pg/vg combo, nic and flavor intensity. I know other some other suppliers have a similar "meh...not a big deal" attitude, but that isn't the majority in my experience. Most of the ones I've asked, have been very forthcoming about it. The suppliers who don't...I don't purchase from.
I've had people come here to ECF on my recommendation who decided not to vape but stick with smoking because of these debates. That is sad to me because vaping has been such a liberating and postive experience for me personally. I don't want people getting sick, and I do tell people to avoid diacetyl or only use it very sparingly. We are consumers and we have choices of which suppliers to purchase from. I've asked everyone I deal with about it...and I make decisions according to their response. That is really all I'm asking for people to keep in mind. This is new in the US, and the FDA wants ban e-cigs. To me that is the biggest hurtle, and when that decision is made in our favor, I think there will be some bigger companies jumping in, and testing will become routine and disclosure will be standardized. Until then ask...or DIY. Let's try to not scare people away...and let's not become those "no toys in your happy meal" people.
Panini, I am sorry that you got a less than desirable response from that supplier. I am mostly DIY because of the cost savings and enjoyment I get, but also the level of control it gives me over the pg/vg combo, nic and flavor intensity. I know other some other suppliers have a similar "meh...not a big deal" attitude, but that isn't the majority in my experience. Most of the ones I've asked, have been very forthcoming about it. The suppliers who don't...I don't purchase from.
I've had people come here to ECF on my recommendation who decided not to vape but stick with smoking because of these debates. That is sad to me because vaping has been such a liberating and postive experience for me personally. I don't want people getting sick, and I do tell people to avoid diacetyl or only use it very sparingly. We are consumers and we have choices of which suppliers to purchase from. I've asked everyone I deal with about it...and I make decisions according to their response. That is really all I'm asking for people to keep in mind. This is new in the US, and the FDA wants ban e-cigs. To me that is the biggest hurtle, and when that decision is made in our favor, I think there will be some bigger companies jumping in, and testing will become routine and disclosure will be standardized. Until then ask...or DIY. Let's try to not scare people away...and let's not become those "no toys in your happy meal" people.
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