Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun 5

[Mactavish]

Yeah, I'll bet that helps.

Corpse tirade in 3... 2... 1...


But Jim has a point. Lube up those o-rings and crank that tank assembly up tight. Lube those other o-rings with something other than just juice. I like food-grade silicone o-ring lube from my scuba gear repair days, but I guess vaseline from your weekend habits or lip balm from your tender corpse lips will do the trick.

Good recommendation. If you are not near a scuba shop, you can get the good stuff here:

Amazon.com: Dow Corning Molykote 111 Oring / Valve Lubricant / Sealant, 1/2oz (Repackaged for Smaller Applications), Water Resistant Lubricant, Food Grade Lubricant, Dow 111: Automotive

 

[HBcorpse]

Good recommendation. If you are not near a scuba shop, you can get the good stuff here:

Amazon.com: Dow Corning Molykote 111 Oring / Valve Lubricant / Sealant, 1/2oz (Repackaged for Smaller Applications), Water Resistant Lubricant, Food Grade Lubricant, Dow 111: Automotive

Yeah the suggestions to lube the O-rings is great, until you've already done that, and it still doesn't work.
It's just a mechanically inferior design. Bottom line. These kinds of issues shouldn't be present in a well tested SM device...proof? None of their devices have had these issues before.
SM really sh|t the bed trying to get this out, in the rush to beat the EU crapola regs.

 

[k2zs]

Sure am glad I got a good one, mine's sheer perfection...

 

[raitizz]

Can relate on the muted flavour, HB, still haven't figured mine out, but it's sure a damn smooth vape. I lube the o-rings, tighten the top-cap, and it hasn't dismantled on me yet. I hold the lower ring on opening the juice flow.

R

 

[Mactavish]

Yeah the suggestions to lube the O-rings is great, until you've already done that, and it still doesn't work.
It's just a mechanically inferior design. Bottom line. These kinds of issues shouldn't be present in a well tested SM device...proof? None of their devices have had these issues before.
SM really sh|t the bed trying to get this out, in the rush to beat the EU crapola regs.

I understand the reasons for venting when unhappy with a product. And I think most agree the threading would be better if reversed. I tend to direct my vending toward the manufacturer, especially as most in this thread at least are not finding it too difficult to move the JFC. If I don't pick up this tank for a day or two, I had to apply a bit more force to move it, that was when I was using high VG juice as the lube, as I've found that it can get sticky. Now that I've just switched to the silicone, it's buttery smooth. Maybe there is another issue at play with your particular tank. I've never had to deal with SM, but I'd assume they would replace it. I know that's a hassle, and for a cheaper tank, I wouldn't bother, but something to consider with this one. Good luck!

 

[magicmyst]

5 wraps Kanthal
28 gauge
2.8mm coil
1.1 ohm
10 watts
Provari P3

Kogendoh cotton
70vg/30pg juice
1.5 turns open


MTL Kit option 2
Airflow set to 4


Muted flavor
Cotton is the same amount I'd use in a KFL

Thoughts?

Update: Tested again at 12 watts and 14 watts...no change.
Using a flavor I know very well, as its my best tester for new tanks.



Second update:
This device has become a let down, and I'm not even halfway through one tank.
I opened the tank, upside down, to access the deck. I reinstalled the tank, upside down, and threaded it closed. Once closed, I popped the drip tip off, and closed it again, to allow the air to escape.
Upon trying to open the juice flow, the tank separated from the chimney, flooding the deck and bringing an end to my evening (it's bed time anyway).
This is the BIGGEST design flaw in the Kayfun 5.
The Kayfun 4 had it done the right way.
The proper way.
Reverse threading for the juice flow.
But all the little cry-babies couldn't be bothered to take THREE SECONDS to learn that fact. They cried and complained so much, that SM decided to make the KF5 forward threading all around, thus ruining their juice flow control.
I'll stand by my words here. And I'll have this opinion of this tank until Steam Tuners releases a chimney with reverse threaded tank connection. Cuz if the tank threads onto the chimney with reverse threading, the juice flow won't affect the connection of the tank to the chimney.

Putting this thing away for the night.
At this moment, I'm not 100% sure I'll be keeping this tank.
Not a win tonight.

Don't blame you one bit for being pizzed with this happening- especially at the end of the day, but it's always been possible to accidentally disassemble any kayfun if the tank components are not tightly assembled. I did it a couple times with my KFL.

Re muted flavor: Hang in there and try different builds & wicking. I fought with my KM3 for weeks before finding the magic (for me) formula: contact coil, 2mm, 28g, 10 wraps, 1.5Ω. I'm getting good flavor from my K5 with the same build, but not as good as in the KM3. I will probably try a 2.5mm coil next.

 

[magicmyst]

I understand the reasons for venting when unhappy with a product. And I think most agree the threading would be better if reversed. I tend to direct my vending toward the manufacturer, especially as most in this thread at least are not finding it too difficult to move the JFC.

Oh, come on! If we can't rant and whine here, who else is going to care!

 

[magicmyst]

Muted flavor
Cotton is the same amount I'd use in a KFL

Been there. Done that. These puppies DO NOT wick the same as a KFL. My experience for best wicking is similar to others: Wispy ends, fill, but do not stuff, the juice wells, bigger shoulders (this runs contrary to my KFL technique, but it works!).

O-rings, FWIW, the only rings I've lubed are the 2 on the deck. I just use the same 50/50 juice that's going in the tank. No problems with smooth JFC and no leaks.

 

[Mactavish]

Oh, come on! If we can't rant and whine here, who else is going to care!

I think you just did!

 

[Lisaf01]

Yeah the suggestions to lube the O-rings is great, until you've already done that, and it still doesn't work.
It's just a mechanically inferior design. Bottom line. These kinds of issues shouldn't be present in a well tested SM device...proof? None of their devices have had these issues before.
SM really sh|t the bed trying to get this out, in the rush to beat the EU crapola regs.

Just for clarity, the only elements of the Kayfun 5 that were affected by the "rushed launch" prior to the implementation of the EU Tobacco Products Directive were the quantity available at time of launch, and the communication/marketing efforts related to the launch (and post launch). All other aspects of the product development and manufacturing as well as the beta testing, have followed exactly the same path as previous products - it's just that SvoeMesto didn't have enough on hand to satisfy the expected demand but had to launch in all EU territories before May 20th.
I should have made this more explicit in my earlier post.

HBCorpse, I would advise you get in touch directly with SvoeMesto for support with the issues you're having.

 

[MKBarca]

Yeah the suggestions to lube the O-rings is great, until you've already done that, and it still doesn't work.
It's just a mechanically inferior design. Bottom line. These kinds of issues shouldn't be present in a well tested SM device...proof? None of their devices have had these issues before.
SM really sh|t the bed trying to get this out, in the rush to beat the EU crapola regs.

I don't agree with everything you are saying, but I certainly agree with your assertion that V4 is a better tank. For me it is, anyway. Few others seem to share my opinion. Personal preference I suppose.

I actually find the V4 easier to use. Not complicated at all. And with 50/50 juice I really have no need for 'adjustable' juice control. The V4 'on or off' suits my liquid just fine.

Regarding flavour though, the K5 is superb. Maybe try a little less cotton, that has worked for me. And it has just taken me a little over a month to enjoy the K5. The amount of times I wanted to throw it off a bridge!!

 

[Mactavish]

Never throw a mod or a tank off a bridge! You know who ends up with them ..........

The TROLLS!

 

[MKBarca]

Never throw a mod or a tank off a bridge! You know who ends up with them ..........

The TROLLS!

Wise words. It's probably a great thing that I don't live near a bridge. Or the trolls would be rich. And happy. Rich, happy trolls.

 

[2legsshrt]

Yeah the suggestions to lube the O-rings is great, until you've already done that, and it still doesn't work.
It's just a mechanically inferior design. Bottom line. These kinds of issues shouldn't be present in a well tested SM device...proof? None of their devices have had these issues before.
SM really sh|t the bed trying to get this out, in the rush to beat the EU crapola regs.

Hmph I've gone through about 120ml of ejuice always top filling and never had a problem. Don't close the juice flow so tight all you have to do is close it till it stops and not crank on it. It will open right back up. Tighten the chimney sections well.

 

[2legsshrt]

Also for leaks which I haven't had any problems since I took it completely apart and lubed all of them before I used it but check Oring #5. I leave mine on it's side overnight every night. I've been cautious about leaving it on my mod because of all the talk of leaks so I remove it and leave it on it's side with the juice flow open the full 2 turns and nothing.

 

[2legsshrt]

I have liked this the best of any Kayfun I have had which I had the V2 plus I think it was called the V4 and this one. I wish I could support the designer more then just 1 authentic but I ordered 2 Tobeco clones which from what I have seen in a review by Richard Ng is excellent. I just couldn't afford another $240. But if I could would have definitely done that. All the other KF's I have had were also authentics which included 3 Lite Pluses which didn't have enough air for me when I switched to using only TC and using Ti at that point and my V4. I sold all of those. I have never bought clones but money is getting tight for another year and I loved this thing so much I had to go that route to be able to have 3 of them. This one is great using TC on an SXmini Qclass SS316L 26awg 6 wraps spaced 3mm ID .45ohms at 425F. Excellent vape.

 

[2legsshrt]

The only thing I have noticed is caused by USER. That is not remembering to let my finger off the fire button before I stop vaping causing a little vapor to come out the air inlets leaving a little condensation to build up which will start seeping out the bottom between the inside part and the housing after about 60+ml of juice and the use of a lot of juice because I can't put it down. Luckily I DIY.

 

[HBcorpse]

Hmph I've gone through about 120ml of ejuice always top filling and never had a problem. Don't close the juice flow so tight all you have to do is close it till it stops and not crank on it. It will open right back up. Tighten the chimney sections well.

Yeah I've been really cautious with the juice control, and I do stop it right when it gets snug.
Tightening up the tank/chimney sections is a bit of a butthole clincher cuz I'm not about to try and break this glass.
The bummer about that is I am a 100% anti-all metal tank user. I strongly dislike the look, and I'm too OCD to not be able to see my juice level.
Yeah I could solve that by topping off every morning, but that doesn't solve the all metal thing which I just can't stand.

On another note, the MTL Kit really helps dial this thing in...all other issues I've had aside.
I am very glad they released something like the MTL Kit.
For a brand that makes the most customizable tanks on the market, this airflow Kit is just one more way to make this Kayfun your own!

 

[2legsshrt]

Yeah I've been really cautious with the juice control, and I do stop it right when it gets snug.
Tightening up the tank/chimney sections is a bit of a butthole clincher cuz I'm not about to try and break this glass.
The bummer about that is I am a 100% anti-all metal tank user. I strongly dislike the look, and I'm too OCD to not be able to see my juice level.
Yeah I could solve that by topping off every morning, but that doesn't solve the all metal thing which I just can't stand.

On another note, the MTL Kit really helps dial this thing in...all other issues I've had aside.
I am very glad they released something like the MTL Kit.
For a brand that makes the most customizable tanks on the market, this airflow Kit is just one more way to make this Kayfun your own!

Yeah I hear ya. The way I've been going thru juice I'd have to fill it every 3 hours. I hate the metal tank also but of course I'm using TC so I could just wait until the SX told me.

 

[2legsshrt]

I gotta say that going to 1 turn on the JF has really reined in the juice usage. As long as I don't get a dry coil message. I'm able to turn the power down a little too so that is good.