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[vapdivrr]

Is it just me or does the 510 pin need to be up all the way on the KM3? This was why I stopped using the Flow Ring because in order to use it, I had to adjust the 510 pin out a notcj which cases that lower piece (the squared piece) to be a tad loose and causes wobble and occasionally a no-fire situation.

I could out a spacer of sorts in there I assume as well I guess.

Just wondering if I'm missing anything.

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I agree, although it's adjustable somewhat, it's not meant to adjust enough to accommodate something like a beauty ring. I think it can be adjusted slightly and I believe that if you do, you also have to adjust the AF screw along with it, so the plate screw has something to tighten to (unless you have your AF tightened almost all the way down). It seemed to me, and maybe it was something else, that when I tried to close the airflow (tighten down), and the plate screw didn't back up to it, I was getting a fluxuation in resistance, so I then adjusted the AF screw to the exact position to the plate screw and the fluxuation stopped...

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[qorax]

Bronze, speaking of provari, have you seen the new tube mod? Looks like a winner

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This could've been my next Provari, but...
1) Why didn't they go the sectional route like the P3 (all tubes in one)?
2) Why name it differently*? P4 would have been better imo.

*Radius I understand, 'coz it is a box mod, thus different than their usual line of tubes.

| PROCYON
(Pro-see-on) is a binary star system in Canis Minor (the lesser dog), which is a constellation in the Northern Hemisphere. It is among the 10 brightest stars from Earth's sky. The system is made up of Procyon A (a main sequence star) and Procyon B (a much smaller white dwarf).

 

[vapdivrr]

This could've been my next Provari, but...
1) Why didn't they go the sectional route like the P3 (all tubes in one)?
2) Why name it differently*? P4 would have been better imo.

*Radius I understand, 'coz it is a box mod, thus different than their usual line of tubes.

| PROCYON
(Pro-see-on) is a binary star system in Canis Minor (the lesser dog), which is a constellation in the Northern Hemisphere. It is among the 10 brightest stars from Earth's sky. The system is made up of Procyon A (a main sequence star) and Procyon B (a much smaller white dwarf).

So you mean the p3 has the option of a smaller battery and this one doesnt? If so I agree. I didn't really look at it that closely yet

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[qorax]

So you mean the p3 has the option of a smaller battery and this one doesnt? If so I agree. I didn't really look at it that closely yet

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Yes. The P3 comes with three tubes (for all batt sizes). This doesn't.

 

[vapdivrr]

Yes. The P3 comes with three tubes (for all batt sizes). This doesn't.

Then they are getting greedy? Cause now their next move is a mini to go along with this one (the next star in the system)? Maybe it's an efficiency thing with one solid tube being more , to go along with that special efficient end cap? Not sure

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[qorax]

Then they are getting greedy? Cause now their next move is a mini to go along with this one (the next star in the system)? Maybe it's an efficiency thing with one solid tube being more , to go along with that special efficient end cap? Not sure

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Exactly my thought, thus posted that footnote

 

[VapingTurtle]

I would speculate that since they are all about safety they didn't want anyone using a smaller battery at the higher current draw that the new tube is capable of.

 

[vapdivrr]

Exactly my thought, thus posted that footnote

Good call

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[Bronze]

Stoked, got the mini waiting at the post office . A while back I told the wife to hit me if I ever get a tank that isn't a genuine Kayfun. I've tried tons of others and I always come back to a Kayfun.

Hope your wife doesn't pack a punch because after trying "tons" of others it has to hurt.

 

[Bronze]

Is it just me or does the 510 pin need to be up all the way on the KM3? This was why I stopped using the Flow Ring because in order to use it, I had to adjust the 510 pin out a notcj which cases that lower piece (the squared piece) to be a tad loose and causes wobble and occasionally a no-fire situation.

I could out a spacer of sorts in there I assume as well I guess.

Just wondering if I'm missing anything.

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That's the problem with flow/beauty rings. They can get hung up and cause fit up problems. I think Ping is the only other person I know who got a flowring. Seems to be OK for him. He said Captivape quit offering them. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm guessing they had a lot of negative feedback like yours.

 

[AstroTurf]

Yes. The P3 comes with three tubes (for all batt sizes). This doesn't.

Is an 18350 capable of 50 watts?

 

[StealthyTX]

This could've been my next Provari, but...
1) Why didn't they go the sectional route like the P3 (all tubes in one)?
2) Why name it differently*? P4 would have been better imo.

*Radius I understand, 'coz it is a box mod, thus different than their usual line of tubes.

I'm a little disappointed in Provape...to me they just came out with an 18650-only Classic with a new battery cap. Same 22mm tube (when I saw the Procyon page on Provapes site, I thought I was looking at a classic at first), same P3 scrolling whack-a-mole menu, same display, same 2-piece 510 adapter that has been known to lock attys.

1. Why the exact same tube? Or the same size for that matter? A lightweight 19mm mod would be sweet!
2. Why not redesign the 510 adapter? Or just admit defeat and ditch the P3 connector? I only know of two tanks I can buy right now that use the P3 connection without an adapter, the CalixV2 and Kabuki. I actually prefer the P3 connector to the 510, but Provape is such a niche product, I don't see tons of tank/atty makers rushing to make devices to support this connection.
3. Why not a new display? Why not something a bit larger, nicer? Oh yeah, they're using the same tubes...never mind.
4. If they aren't changing the tube/display/adapter, how do they justify that price? Don't give me the "legendary Provari quality/safety" thing...there are plenty of comparably or even lower priced mods out there that are well built, and I have never heard of a mod with a DNA or SX chipset blowing up in someone's face. That argument worked in 2013, not so much now.

Sorry for the quasi-rant, just REALLY disappointed in Provape's lack of innovation. I'm beginning to think that Provape was a one-hit wonder with the 2/2.5, and have only survived by the goodwill/rep generated by that excellent mod. My next "new" device will not be made by Provape. I have one in mind, but it looks like I'll have to wait awhile for it

 

[AstroTurf]

Then they are getting greedy? Cause now their next move is a mini to go along with this one (the next star in the system)? Maybe it's an efficiency thing with one solid tube being more , to go along with that special efficient end cap? Not sure

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Not greedy, just safe!!!

I am not sure an 18350 could drive 50 watts for an extended period of time.

 

[Bronze]

I'm a little disappointed in Provape...to me they just came out with an 18650-only Classic with a new battery cap. Same 22mm tube (when I saw the Procyon page on Provapes site, I thought I was looking at a classic at first), same P3 scrolling whack-a-mole menu, same display, same 2-piece 510 adapter that has been known to lock attys.

1. Why the exact same tube? Or the same size for that matter? A lightweight 19mm mod would be sweet!
2. Why not redesign the 510 adapter? Or just admit defeat and ditch the P3 connector? I only know of two tanks I can buy right now that use the P3 connection without an adapter, the CalixV2 and Kabuki. I actually prefer the P3 connector to the 510, but Provape is such a niche product, I don't see tons of tank/atty makers rushing to make devices to support this connection.
3. Why not a new display? Why not something a bit larger, nicer? Oh yeah, they're using the same tubes...never mind.
4. If they aren't changing the tube/display/adapter, how do they justify that price? Don't give me the "legendary Provari quality/safety" thing...there are plenty of comparably or even lower priced mods out there that are well built, and I have never heard of a mod with a DNA or SX chipset blowing up in someone's face. That argument worked in 2013, not so much now.

Sorry for the quasi-rant, just REALLY disappointed in Provape's lack of innovation. I'm beginning to think that Provape was a one-hit wonder with the 2/2.5, and have only survived by the goodwill/rep generated by that excellent mod. My next "new" device will not be made by Provape. I have one in mind, but it looks like I'll have to wait awhile for it

Well, the Radius was a hit too in that it is a box mod. It's the same Provari quality as the tube mods (with twice the power) but in box mod form which is where the market has gone. And for a decent price. The P3 was just an updated version of their P2/2.5's. Some important updates I might add (especially Boost) but essentially nothing grand. This new one is a higher watt tube mod if that is what someone really wants. Not for me. I find this new one to be minimal change and is probably why they didn't pre-hype it. It simply fills a small niche. I suspect someday they will come out with TC but their feeling at this point is the technology isn't where it needs to be. Right or wrong I wouldn't know.

 

[Bronze]

Not greedy, just safe!!!

I am not sure an 18350 could drive 50 watts for an extended period of time.

I don't think it would either, hence the omission of the smaller battery option.

 

[VapingTurtle]

... The P3 was just an updated version of their P2/2.5's. Some important updates I might add (especially Boost) but essentially nothing grand. ...

VW was quite a change from VV.

 

[qorax]

It's not about whether it can do. It's about availability. And about choice.

A Lamborghini does 280 with ease - but would we do it in the city? Do we do it anyway, anywhere?

When in Dubai, my usual speed is 120-140 in the city. 200-240 on highway. But do I do it in Canada? Can I do it? No, impossible.

So you see, having the possibility to do it is important. It rests with the user ultimately whether s/he can -- if the circumstances allow. We don't use all that power regularly. Heck, I've never reached beyond 18W with anything - but I own a DNA40.

What about DNA200? Do we use all the power? I'd opine that P'vari could have kept the options - just by locking the output based on cell availability /ability within. Like the DNAs. But the choice of availability is beneficial beyond doubt.

Ps.: Btw, I love Provari. I have two. It's construction and reliability is beyond doubt.

 

[Bronze]

Ps.: Btw, I love Provari. I have two. It's construction and reliability is beyond doubt.

And herein lies their key to success if you ask me (and yes Stealthy is right the P2/2.5 is what set the precedence). Add they offer incalculable aesthetic/finish options and they have carved themselves a nice business.

 

[vapdivrr]

Yes the option would of been great but at least for me, I really only ever vaped with an 18650 in a tube mod even if it had other options. I would try it here and there with an 18350 but only for a very short time if at all. But that's just me and I'm sure there are loads that do use the smaller batteries. I did start out with the first provari and loved it, but then grew out of them. There was quite a time I went without using their products and thought, no big deal these other mods are just as good. I then got the radius and once again I am blown away. I don't need fancy options personally, just a solid piece and the provari has always had that. I'm sure I would love any of their products, imo they are definitely one of the best. This is how I feel about these devices these days, I see these mods with soo many options, and when those options are not available on those mods, people call them out dated. Imo it's like a jack of all trades, they do soo much, but are not truly great in one. I see it all the time in my buisness, guys doing everything from flooring to painting but they aren't really great, just good. I like a simple powerful device that's not too fancy, but just plain old reliable and imo, that provari. I have those fancy tc mods with all the features and imo they just don't work as good. In the end I like provari s mentality, stick what which you know and do it great

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[stanleybb50]

This could've been my next Provari, but...
1) Why didn't they go the sectional route like the P3 (all tubes in one)?
2) Why name it differently*? P4 would have been better imo.

*Radius I understand, 'coz it is a box mod, thus different than their usual line of tubes.

| PROCYON
(Pro-see-on) is a binary star system in Canis Minor (the lesser dog), which is a constellation in the Northern Hemisphere. It is among the 10 brightest stars from Earth's sky. The system is made up of Procyon A (a main sequence star) and Procyon B (a much smaller white dwarf).

Because 18350 and 18490 likely can't safely hit 50 watts.

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