Bands that you just don't get...

[firefox335]

Sorry for the rant it's just been one of those days. Plus it's kind of hard hearing people put down the entertainers who put their heart and soul into bringing music into our lives.

I didn't start this to put anybody "down." But the bands we are talking about are famous and I can usually think of a dozen or more indie bands who work their butts off every night trying to make it big that are much better. I agree with you though, if you're not having fun, it's time to call it quits. I've been playing in bands since I was 19 years old. I'm 35 now. And I do it because I love it. I could care less about money and I don't want to be famous at all.

 

[firefox335]

The Beatles. I'm not saying they aren't talented, but I don't get why they have the following they do. I must of been born in the wrong time to get it.

I'm a hard rock/metal fan with an iPod full of modern bands. I think the oldest song on there is from 1989. Well, wait, there's Fergie's remake of Barracuda. Does that count?

You actually remind me of most of the kids I went to college with. There was a particular day when one of my instructors was in a really bad mood. As everyone left, I asked him what was wrong. "These .......ing kids don't pay attention to anything that happened before they were born. All they know is what they've experience through recent pop culture." I was close to his age. We were both about 10 years older than the other students. I listen to stuff from the 1930s all the way up to today. From Bluegrass to Punk to Jazz to Metal to Classical.

I know it sounds like I'm lecturing you. I'm not trying to. But don't just listen to one style from one era. Expand your horizons. You'd be surprised what you could get into if you give it a chance.

As far as The Beatles go, you don't have to like them. But they are responsible for modern music as we know it. Before them, nobody was really writing their own music. Music was written by songwriters at publishing houses and musicians basically did "covers". The Beatles changed that. And there were really no "Bands". There was Elvis (and his backup band), Little Richard (and his backup band), Chuck Berry (and his backup band), etc. The Beatles were responsible for starting a "band" were every member was equally important. I consider the Beatles to be my favorite band of all time... and even saying that, I can tell you that some of their stuff just sucks!

 

[t9c]

As far as The Beatles go, you don't have to like them. But they are responsible for modern music as we know it. Before them, nobody was really writing their own music. Music was written by songwriters at publishing houses and musicians basically did "covers".

Oh right. Those guys like Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, Jimmy Reed, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters...

Sorry just had a brain fart and can't think of anymore off the cuff.

Who the hell do you think The Beatles and every other British Invasion band got their styles from and copied?

I love the Beatles. The best thing that ever happened to pop music (move over Big E) but they weren't the first stars writing their own songs by any stretch.

 

[Mac]

It is funny that no one is sticking up for jay z. Maybe he isn't really a god like he claims.

 

[NCC]

Mac: I honestly don't know who Jaz Z IS. The name sounds vaguely familiar.
From your posts, I don't guess I'm missing anything. Should I find some Jay Z mp3s to listen to? LOL

 

[Mac]

Mac: I honestly don't know who Jaz Z IS. The name sounds vaguely familiar.
From your posts, I don't guess I'm missing anything. Should I find some Jay Z mp3s to listen to? LOL

He is a no talent hack that's famous for being a crack dealer. He has nicknamed himself J-Hova. If after reading that you are even remotely interested in him there is plenty of his garbage available to listen to.

 

[NCC]

He is a no talent hack that's famous for being a crack dealer. He has nicknamed himself J-Hova. If after reading that you are even remotely interested in him there is plenty of his garbage available to listen to.

Well, as if you weren't convincing enough ... wikipedia closed the deal in its first paragraph. And, it explained to me why I am unfamiliar with him. In two sentences, I learned all I ever need to know about him.

 

[nightsong]

so it's time to put the joy back into my music.

Most of the bands around I can find something to like about. It might only be one of the members or even just one great lick. Walk a mile in their shoes and you might not feel the same way.

Honestly what bothers me the most is the over production and the marketing of everything that goes on with it.

I sincerely hope you are able to find that joy once again in your music! I hate to hear a musician feel that way but unfortunately it happens all too often Given all the joy music gives to this world, it's unfair this gift takes such a personal toll.

I'd be hard-pressed as well to try to come up with a single singer or band that I don't like at least one of their songs. But I think it's actually the listeners loss if they just write off a band because they don't get it.

But obviously I could do away from all of the hype and overproducing of studio albums today. Give me a raw live performance any day! Nothing beats the energy and emotion of a live show

As for only picking on famous bands here, newsflash but none of them started out as being big and famous. Every one of them began by playing the small clubs and festivals night after night away from their loved ones and families, often only playing for a cut of the bar receipts divided by all the band members.

 

[Steel]

I just hate the overproduction and compression that modern (rock) bands DEMAND from their mixers and masterers. It makes it so hard to listen to... I realize that metal needs to be LOUD, but shouldn't that be controlled by me? That's the one downfall of when we went from vinyl records to tapes and CD's... the physical limitations of compression were no longer a problem and so they went crazy with it. If you were to take most of the albums produced today and put them on vinyl without messing with the equalizers and toning it down, the damn needle would be jumping off the record ever 2 seconds!

ICP - Jesus no.... "F-ing magnets... how do they work?!" ....

Really? What's worse than their music is their followers. Look up "juggalo" on google and you'll be morbidly amazed

I really can't stand most of the nu-metal singing.. which is not singing, its "screaming".

Bah. I'm gonna go listen to some Black Sabbath now.

 

[firefox335]

Oh right. Those guys like Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, Jimmy Reed, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters...

Sorry just had a brain fart and can't think of anymore off the cuff.

Who the hell do you think The Beatles and every other British Invasion band got their styles from and copied?

I love the Beatles. The best thing that ever happened to pop music (move over Big E) but they weren't the first stars writing their own songs by any stretch.

You've got a good point. And I'll concede that. I will rephrase. The Beatles made writing your own material a mainstay. (You left out the Beach Boys too.)

 

[Xanax]

Oh we're talking about Rap now... I thought Rap artists kinda went without saying... LOL

But since we're talking about it, T-pain... Seriously? I could be so rich right now if I had just discovered autotune at a young age...

 

[xrayspex77]

Well, I can see people not liking Nirvana. But they were important to me for the simple fact that they came out right when I was learning to play guitar. I had been listening to the Beatles and Cream prior, but a lot of their stuff is kinda' tricky on the old fretboard. Most of Nirvana's stuff was easy to figure out. Your take on certain bands changes when you start to play an instrument. There are a lot of bands/musicians I don't really care for, but I can appreciate because of their technical proficiency.

But even though I liked them, I guess they were a bit overrated. I mean I remember when I heard Kurt Cobain was dead. I was with a buddy and we were both like "Wow, that really sucks, man. C'mon, let's go smoke a cig for Kurt." and that was about it. Now apparently one of my ex girlfriends came to school the next day all in black and cried the whole day. That's a little ridiculous if you ask me.

Yeah I remembered when he died too! I think I was 13, I was with my friend at my house and my friend cried when she heard it on the radio, but she didn't dress in black and cried the whole day @ school or anything. Nirvana is the only band in their genre that I still like listening to once in a while.

 

[mjones]

Take the Edge's digital delay pedal away, he wouldn't be able to play anything. Worst and most arrogant guitar player of all time.

 

[coffee344]

You actually remind me of most of the kids I went to college with. There was a particular day when one of my instructors was in a really bad mood. As everyone left, I asked him what was wrong. "These .......ing kids don't pay attention to anything that happened before they were born. All they know is what they've experience through recent pop culture." I was close to his age. We were both about 10 years older than the other students. I listen to stuff from the 1930s all the way up to today. From Bluegrass to Punk to Jazz to Metal to Classical.

I know it sounds like I'm lecturing you. I'm not trying to. But don't just listen to one style from one era. Expand your horizons. You'd be surprised what you could get into if you give it a chance.

As far as The Beatles go, you don't have to like them. But they are responsible for modern music as we know it. Before them, nobody was really writing their own music. Music was written by songwriters at publishing houses and musicians basically did "covers". The Beatles changed that. And there were really no "Bands". There was Elvis (and his backup band), Little Richard (and his backup band), Chuck Berry (and his backup band), etc. The Beatles were responsible for starting a "band" were every member was equally important. I consider the Beatles to be my favorite band of all time... and even saying that, I can tell you that some of their stuff just sucks!

I've listened to all genres of music. I just prefer certain ones.

AS I stated, I love hard rock and metal, but know who my absolute favorite band is right now? Mumford and Sons. I can't get enough of them. If you like bluegrass, you should like them.

And I love Sinatra. I love that era of music. I just don't have that much of it on my iPod, so it's not in my daily rotation. But I do have Siriusly Sinatra programed on my radio and I listen to it often. Kind of odd to an outsider - one minute I'm listening to Disturbed, the next it's Bobby Darin.

I admit that I don't like most 60's, 70's or 80's music in general. It just doesn't do it for me. It's not because I haven't "expanded my horizons," it's because it's not my preference. Like cigarettes - A Marlboro was ok, and I'd bum one if I was out of Camels, but it wasn't something I wanted to purchase.

 

[firefox335]

I've listened to all genres of music. I just prefer certain ones.

AS I stated, I love hard rock and metal, but know who my absolute favorite band is right now? Mumford and Sons. I can't get enough of them. If you like bluegrass, you should like them.

And I love Sinatra. I love that era of music. I just don't have that much of it on my iPod, so it's not in my daily rotation. But I do have Siriusly Sinatra programed on my radio and I listen to it often. Kind of odd to an outsider - one minute I'm listening to Disturbed, the next it's Bobby Darin.

I admit that I don't like most 60's, 70's or 80's music in general. It just doesn't do it for me. It's not because I haven't "expanded my horizons," it's because it's not my preference. Like cigarettes - A Marlboro was ok, and I'd bum one if I was out of Camels, but it wasn't something I wanted to purchase.

Okay, I know exactly what you mean then. I'm a punk rock fan. And pretty much the entire genre. From The Cockney Rejects and The Exploited to The Ramones and Riverdales. But there is a lot of stuff I just can't get into no matter how much I try. But... I always give it a shot.

 

[xrayspex77]

It is funny that no one is sticking up for jay z. Maybe he isn't really a god like he claims.

Jay Z...in all of his songs...I swear he goes "uh huh, ugh, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, uh, huh" or "yeah, yeah, uh huh, yeah, ugh, yeah, uh huh" and all the beats are pretty similar, it's pretty irritating and yeah I don't get why he's seen as "king of hip hop" or w/e he/media calls him.

 

[xrayspex77]

Okay, I know exactly what you mean then. I'm a punk rock fan. And pretty much the entire genre. From The Cockney Rejects and The Exploited to The Ramones and Riverdales. But there is a lot of stuff I just can't get into no matter how much I try. But... I always give it a shot.

Love Cockney Rejects and The Ramones! See alot of the punk bands myself I just think, they're so great, why don't people love it?! My bf is opposite of me, and don't really know much about punk rock at all, and I always try to play him stuff like Stiff Little Fingers, and the Adicts, Mad Sin, Macc Lads etc..... and he just doesn't understand why I love it so much, I tell him they help me relax, makes me smile and brings back great memories, and he goes "they're playing so fast, how is that relaxing?" Oh well, it goes the same way I guess, I don't get Pearl Jam or Incubus and he just doesn't get punk rock.

 

[firefox335]

You said it. Every time I see your name all can think of is:

"Some people think that little girls should be seen and not heard, but I think... OH BONDAGE, UP YOURS! ONE-TWO-THREE-FOUR!"

 

[voltaire]

You've got a good point. And I'll concede that. I will rephrase. The Beatles made writing your own material a mainstay. (You left out the Beach Boys too.)

The Beach Boys are a bad example. Though it was commonplace in that era, the original boy-band got their start with blatant rip offs. Try listening to "Surfing USA" (puke!) next to Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" (yay!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le51jB37Fro

As for U2 I mostly agree with you, I've never really been a fan, but they did have some good songs in their earlier days. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" and "New Years Day" are some damn good (and unfortunately played out) songs.

 

[firefox335]

The Beach Boys are a bad example. Though it was commonplace in that era, the original boy-band got their start with blatant rip offs. Try listening to "Surfing USA" (puke!) next to Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" (yay!)

YouTube - The Beach Boys VS Chuck Berry

As for U2 I mostly agree with you, I've never really been a fan, but they did have some good songs in their earlier days. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" and "New Years Day" are some damn good (and unfortunately played out) songs.

Dude... The Beach Boys were awesome!