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brienj:

Great work, and such a simple method! I may try this one.

One caution, though...watch out for those baby bottles...although there are now so many xeno-estrogens floating around in the environment that adult exposure from a bottle may be minimal.

Please keep us posted on how your mixture pans out.

That seems like a lot of flavoring for 30 ml. Is it strong tasting?

Dated March 6, 2009:
"The six largest manufacturers of baby bottles will stop selling bottles in the United States made with bisphenol A, a controversial chemical widely used in plastics but increasingly linked to a range of health effects.

Commonly called BPA, the chemical mimics the hormone estrogen and may disrupt the body's endocrine system. Public health advocates say it poses a particular danger to fetuses, infants and children because BPA can interfere with cell function at a point when their bodies are still developing.

Over the past decade, more than 130 studies have linked BPA to breast cancer, obesity and other disorders. In September, the study of BPA in humans found adults with higher levels of bisphenol A had elevated rates of heart disease, diabetes and liver abnormalities. Last year, researchers at the Yale School of Medicine linked BPA to problems with brain function and mood disorders in monkeys. "
-- No BPA For Baby Bottles In U.S. - washingtonpost.com

 

[Crash]

I'm not sure, but I doubt it, because the taste you're missing is probably the taste of burning reds, and you won't be burning them. I guess you could try it and see, but I really doubt it's what you're looking for.

Maybe thats it, i've tried so many different tobacco flavors but nothing really tastes like a real cig, but hey atleast im not coating my lungs with tar anymore

 

[_R_u_b_i_x_]

I think I'll try it

 

[_R_u_b_i_x_]

not the counting the lungs with tar, I meant the tobacco flavor

 

[brienj]

brienj:

Great work, and such a simple method! I may try this one.

One caution, though...watch out for those baby bottles...although there are now so many xeno-estrogens floating around in the environment that adult exposure from a bottle may be minimal.

Please keep us posted on how your mixture pans out.

That seems like a lot of flavoring for 30 ml. Is it strong tasting?

Thanks for the warning about the baby bottles.

The main reason I added the Butter Rum in the first place was because the PG/SNUS mix by itself gave a slight aftertaste. I guess you could add less, but I like the taste of Butter Rum, and is good for me, and no more aftertaste with this mix.

 

[SteelVapor]

I have several experiments going. One is with one can of snus, 2tbsp coffee grounds and vodka only. It has been sitting for about two weeks. I want to let it sit for 20 days and then add VG.

I have another one working. I put one tbsp vodka, one tbsp distilled water, half of a full size Cuban cigar and topped with glycerin in a 2oz container. It has been working for one week.

I just started one today with black tea, tbsp vodka, tbsp H2O and glycerin.
I shake them once every day and hope for the best.

bty, I found a redbull energy shot at CVS. It comes in a 2oz food grade container with a screw cap. That is what I am using for fermentation containers.

Anyone with ideas on how to finish off the product? I'm all ears. I am mostly concerned with % of water, vodka and glycerin. Defiantly having fun.

 

[Zofryer]

I have a ton of "loose" snus. The stuff that the swedes themselves called "redneck snus". I'm a huge fan of Roda Lacket, and Ettan. I'm going to mix this loose snus in large amounts with PG, let it sit for a long time, then filter the heck out of it. Then I'll add PG to flavor. I'm thinking this is going to work very well.

So far I've tried the shot-glass method with 4 pouches of Nick and Johnny original portion, 4 pouches of Skruf Strong, and eight mini-pouches of CatchDry White Eucalyptus. Full shot glasses, about 40 hours sitting, squeezed out steeped with two spoons. Here are the results:

Skruf Strong: Tastes friggin weird, but the kind of weird you could start to enjoy. Has to be the Rose Oil in it.

CatchDry White Eucalyptus : Tastes amazingly good. Not like a menthol smoke, but something hard to put your finger on. Your lips tingle.

Nick and Johnny original Portion: I'm glad I have 3 rolls of this stuff in the freezer. The tobacco flavor is amazing. This is easily as good as any strong tobacco flavored e-juice I've ever tried.

Thing is, I can't tell how much nicotine I'm getting. I know it's there, but I can't gauge it. It *feels* like a low to mid amount. I've mainly been using this snus-juice to cut stronger liquids down from 36mg since I've mainly been using 18-11mg stuff lately. It's great for that. Haven't made anything bad tasting yet. Hope this helps.

 

[duncantiv]

Thing is, I can't tell how much nicotine I'm getting. I know it's there, but I can't gauge it. It *feels* like a low to mid amount. I've mainly been using this snus-juice to cut stronger liquids down from 36mg since I've mainly been using 18-11mg stuff lately. It's great for that. Haven't made anything bad tasting yet. Hope this helps.

Let's see if I can remember how I did the math on this...

According to Nick and Johnny Snus, Nick & Johhny's, for example, contains about 11mg/g per pouch. A 2 ounce shot glass is about 59.130mL, or 59.130g. If you were to extract every bit of nicotine out of the pouches (highly unlikely), you'd end up with 44mg of nicotine in 59g (59,000mg) of fluid. This gives approximately a 0.074% nicotine content, which roughly translates to 0.74mg/g at most.

It may be a bit disappointing, but I'm experimenting with liquid manufacture to A) extend supplies of "store bought" liquids, and B) to provide a low nicotine alternative once I ween myself off the nicotine. With those goals in mind, low nicotine content is actually more attractive.

 

[Zofryer]

It may be a bit disappointing, but I'm experimenting with liquid manufacture to A) extend supplies of "store bought" liquids, and B) to provide a low nicotine alternative once I ween myself off the nicotine. With those goals in mind, low nicotine content is actually more attractive.

One thing I will say in complete honesty. 4 nick and johnny's in a shot glass for 40 hours in PG tastes better *to me* than anything johnson creek has ever produced. You have to try it to understand. It's the kind of good tasting that makes you wonder if it's unhealthy somehow.

 

[dedmonwakin]

Hey guys i know this might sound like a really stupid question but i've been using a pv for a week or so now, and as much as it satisfies me (i dont need to pick up a analog) i still do miss the taste of Marlboro reds, because well thats what i smoked for the past 10 years. I'm just wondering if I were to take a pack of reds, take all the tobacco out of the cigs and soak that it in a combination of pg/vg for sometime, and after straining it would the liquid taste anything like reds when i vape it???

I once thought this might cure my urge for a Marlboro menthol when I first started vaping......but then I thought, "my switch to ecigs was to avoid the chemicals in the cigarettes and cost of them." Why not just smoke the analogs if I were to do that?

 

[duncantiv]

One thing I will say in complete honesty. 4 nick and johnny's in a shot glass for 40 hours in PG tastes better *to me* than anything johnson creek has ever produced. You have to try it to understand. It's the kind of good tasting that makes you wonder if it's unhealthy somehow.

I know what you mean. I had three Samel Snus Mellow soak in a shot glass of PG for 24 hours, and it came out so wonderful tasting, I couldn't believe it. I really want to try the N&J you talk about. Was that the Stark, West or East?

 

[duncantiv]

I once thought this might cure my urge for a Marlboro menthol when I first started vaping......but then I thought, "my switch to ecigs was to avoid the chemicals in the cigarettes and cost of them." Why not just smoke the analogs if I were to do that?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the worst chemicals involved in smoking are produced from the combustion of the tobacco. I'm sure the PG/VG absorbs some harmful stuff, but I'd bet it's only a fraction of what you'd get from smoking an analog.

As for cost, I'd guess 1 Marlboro Red contains about 3 Snus worth of tobacco, which would produce about 45mL of liquid (using my system and ratios, your mileage may vary). One pack, then, would equal about 900mL of liquid, which most sites would sell to you for $450-900.

Does the cost effectiveness balance out the potential for extra crud? That's for the indiviual to decide. Looking at the numbers, though, I may give it a whirl.

 

[tims]

The highest has 17 mg of nicotine, that is the same as 1.7% nicotine in tobacco. And they have 5% salt added, so there is more salt in it then nicotine. And that salt is not a good thing, the snus has a high amount of water as well. When using snus as it should be used, only 10 to 20% of the nicotine gets into the blood stream.

So after taking everything into account, they are using water and ph levels, to adjust how much nicotine gets to the blood stream. We are talking about a normal cig's nicotines worth here, from weak to strongest, it's about the same only you have high water, and salt levels to deal with with snus.

 

[Enfield]

I may be mistaken, but I believe the worst chemicals involved in smoking are produced from the combustion of the tobacco. I'm sure the PG/VG absorbs some harmful stuff, but I'd bet it's only a fraction of what you'd get from smoking an analog.

And let's not forget that snus is one of the "cleanest" tobaccos out there, having *far* lower TSNA levels than regular tobacco or chew/dip. Forgive me for not having the figures or references at hand.

 

[Zofryer]

I know what you mean. I had three Samel Snus Mellow soak in a shot glass of PG for 24 hours, and it came out so wonderful tasting, I couldn't believe it. I really want to try the N&J you talk about. Was that the Stark, West or East?

Nick and Johnny regular portion

 

[Enfield]

I have a ton of "loose" snus. The stuff that the swedes themselves called "redneck snus". I'm a huge fan of Roda Lacket, and Ettan. I'm going to mix this loose snus in large amounts with PG, let it sit for a long time, then filter the heck out of it. Then I'll add PG to flavor. I'm thinking this is going to work very well.

I did a warm infusion with about tsp of loose general snus in about 1 ounce of PG. I simmered it in a "triple" boiler (never really got above about 160 F) for about 45 minutes then capped the jar and let it sit in the pantry for a week.

I just filtered it yesterday and tossed it in the fridge, but I haven't had a chance to vape it yet. I'm kind of nervous...

 

[duncantiv]

Nick and Johnny regular portion

Oops, I said "Stark", didn't I?

Cool, the Sterk is the one I thought you meant. I'll have to get some of those and try it out. Thanks, Zofryer.

 

[Michele]

Now that i think about...i wonder if i could do this with a teabag and start inhaling caffeine and mix it into my nicotine.

OMG!! Could it get any better? Caffeine and Nicotine?? That's better than an IV poll trailing around the house behind me!

 

[Robert]

I can't find any PG but I did find Glycerine and somewhere alse I heard someone say they used it?

I soaked 2 Camel Snus for about an hou in 20 ml glycerine and squeezed them ou I added a little water to thin it out.

Will this work?
or is Glycerine the right thing to use?

 

[SteelVapor]

I just took my Cuban cigar experiment and filtered it in a coffee filter. I then mixed 10% more glycerin and blended it well. I then mixed 10ml of my experimental mixture with 10ml of
36mg of rum flavored juice. I am now vaping a rum Cohiba cigar vapor. So far so goood. I get great vape and it does taste like a somewhat like a rum cigar.
Will report back tomorrow after more vaping.