Big Tobacco For E-Cig!?

[Gamer]

I live in Richmond VA, and live around alot of smokers. and alot of smokers that Work in the nearby cigarette plant. When showing my E-Cig to a few buddy's a comment was made:

"OH yeah i've seen these. They have hundreds of prototypes for different ones down at the plant"

I asked him about them. He stated that PhilipMorris was creating prototypes of Ecigs to try and cash in from any loss of customers.

The other day we met up again. he had asked around and found some things out at the plant. A: they were in testing phases for a release of a new ecig stated around 2011. B: apparently a lot of the big wigs were all for it. But the issue came to the fact that still they used no tobacco and the cost of loss to BigFarmer would be ridiculous.

Now I'm no reporter I'm just passing along word of mouth here. I thought this could just be some info that some people would like to hear. I found it interesting myself. If there is anyone out there that could fully confirm this through a newspaper article or something that would be cool too

Google rocks:
Philip Morris Eying Electronic-Cigarette Market? | CSP Daily News / Magazine | Tobacco



Note: Sorry if this was posted before or old news. I just found out and thought it was cool

 

[MsSki]

Thanks for sharing this
Tara

 

[(So) Jersey Girl]

I live in Richmond VA, and live around alot of smokers. and alot of smokers that Work in the nearby cigarette plant. When showing my E-Cig to a few buddy's a comment was made:

"OH yeah i've seen these. They have hundreds of prototypes for different ones down at the plant"

I asked him about them. He stated that PhilipMorris was creating prototypes of Ecigs to try and cash in from any loss of customers.

The other day we met up again. he had asked around and found some things out at the plant. A: they were in testing phases for a release of a new Ecig stated around 2011. B: apparently a lot of the big wigs were all for it. But the issue came to the fact that still they used no tobacco and the cost of loss to BigFarmer would be ridiculous.

Now I'm no reporter I'm just passing along word of mouth here. I thought this could just be some info that some people would like to hear. I found it interesting myself. If there is anyone out there that could fully confirm this through a newspaper article or something that would be cool too

Google rocks:
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Note: Sorry if this was posted before or old news. I just found out and thought it was cool

Not surprising. The fear of the loss of revenue to the government, tobacco and pharma is the real reason behind the objection to e-cigs. If every smoker switched to them, they will be out billions if not trillions of $.

 

[thelook]

Very interesting.......

 

[jj2]

Not surprising. The fear of the loss of revenue to the government, tobacco and pharma is the real reason behind the objection to e-cigs. If every smoker switched to them, they will be out billions if not trillions of $.

For a newbie, you are smart!!!

 

[(So) Jersey Girl]

For a newbie, you are smart!!!

Thank You! My mama didn't raise no fool!

 

[MacArthurBug]

O've wondered about the loss to farmers myself. I'm currently living in Kentucky and the farms here seem to sport three things: Tobacco, corn, and/or horses. I love e-cigs but I dislike the idea about some of these smaller family farms gowing under.

 

[mwahle1]

I do not know about the farmers because; correct me if I am wrong, you still need tobacco to extract the nicotine for the e-juice. However, maybe not as much, I really do not know.

 

[ChipCurtis]

True, we still need the farmers to grow the tobacco because e-juice is made partially from extracted nicotine from tobacco leaves. If e-cigs take off, tobacco farmers will still be in business. It's just a matter of tobacco processors "re-tooling" from shredding tobacco to liquefying it. Sort of like when the record companies switched from vinyl to CDs and again to portable MP3 players.

 

[(So) Jersey Girl]

I do not know about the farmers because; correct me if I am wrong, you still need tobacco to extract the nicotine for the e-juice. However, maybe not as much, I really do not know.

Agreed. I don't know how the tobacco industry works. I'm pretty sure it's not a cooperative or collective the way Ocean Spray is for cranberry farmers. As long as tobacco is needed to produce nicotine, the guy who grows it should do ok. I could be wrong. But if they can farm tobacco they can farm something else.

 

[ChipCurtis]

It is actually possible to extract nicotine from potato skins or tomatoes, but the amount that they contain is minuscule compared to what's in a tobacco leaf. Tobacco is still the most efficient and plentiful way to obtain nicotine.

 

[AJMoore]

Agreed. I don't know how the tobacco industry works. I'm pretty sure it's not a cooperative or collective the way Ocean Spray is for cranberry farmers. As long as tobacco is needed to produce nicotine, the guy who grows it should do ok. I could be wrong. But if they can farm tobacco they can farm something else.

I see another government subsidy coming on, getting paid to NOT grow something.

 

[(So) Jersey Girl]

I see another government subsidy coming on, getting paid to NOT grow something.

Sadly, you are probably right.

 

[USinchains]

People have been smoking leaves since we could write history books, and the craze of cigarettes has swept the world globally in just a short time. I highly doubt farmers have much to worry about unless tobacco was banned, then they would have to move to Cali with the other herb growers, hiding under FDA choppers. Anyway, from reading the majority of older folks who analyze my vaping, I'm going to assume that the majority of American smokers are lazy, hopeless impulse buyers who will continue to grab a pack and go rather than put funds toward a PV kit. Times may change as these old coots die off.

 

[Daifne]

At what age do you consider someone an "old coot"? There are a number of members here that are 50 or older, myself included. I will admit that I haven't completely quit analogs yet, smoked 2 pks/day for over 20 years, but have made significant headway in the three weeks since I got my first ecig. You are stereotyping us "old coots".

 

[sherid]

At what age do you consider someone an "old coot"? There are a number of members here that are 50 or older, myself included. I will admit that I haven't completely quit analogs yet, smoked 2 pks/day for over 20 years, but have made significant headway in the three weeks since I got my first ecig. You are stereotyping us "old coots".

I agree. He sounds rather anxious to kill off the "old coots"

 

[USinchains]

Haha! Sorry, I am referring to the "smoke table crowd" at work, a very specific group of people, i shouldn't have generalized. So far, I have met more naysaying than enthusiasm. Instead of 'old coots' I will just say ignorant and stubborn, it's just a coincidence that these stubborn folks are all elderly at my job. Their favorite line in the debate they create is "I don't have much longer to live anyway".

 

[USinchains]

It's not that the people I know are old, it's that they are hopeless and stubborn. So my first point was that I don't believe big tobacco has too much to worry about because I believe cigarettes are that powerful, I do not expect the masses to rush to ecigs. Hope I am making sense now without offending anyone.

 

[Wireguy]

The most resistance I've gotten is from younger people. I think it just depends on who you are around. Older folks who are hacking their heads off seem to have extra interest in finding something different.

Check out this poll, The age question is interesting.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/67329-ecig-user-survey-please-follow-instructions-before-taking.html
If you haven't taken it yet you should.

 

[ThePuck]

I'm no expert but I would think that if e-cigs did catch on, tobacco production would be in bigger demand because I would think it takes more tobacco to produce nicotine than it would smoking the leaf itself.

I would also think the byproducts (remaining parts of the leaf after the nicotine was extracted) could be used for other things like fabric, paper maybe... just use your imagination.