It seems that the parents weren't present and a babysitter was supposed to be taking care of the baby.
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breaking news,child dead after ingesting nicotine.
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It seems that the parents weren't present and a babysitter was supposed to be taking care of the baby.
I have seen and heard of babysitters doing horrible things to children they were watching...
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Like shaking them to death and attempting to cover it up?
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This won't be known for at least a week. I've read three different stories now - babysitter, the parents, the mother and 'her wife'?
Both articles linked in this thread contain the following:
Phew! I'm glad lawmakers are on top of these 1 year olds who are trying to circumvent the existing laws.
On a more serious note (though my comment above isn't entirely light hearted given articles' choice to note that in a case such as this), I think child proof caps could've helped here. I also have purchased a few eliquid bottles that had child proof packaging and/or caps. I'd rather have the option as one who doesn't have kids nor live in a place where kids are around. Sometime childproof caps are annoying to adults. And if we are being honest, a parent / guardian who is acting irresponsibly (by not keeping childproof cap on a bottle when children are present), then it won't really matter how the bottle/cap is made if the problem is simply, cap was left off while toddler was present.
Phew! I'm glad lawmakers are on top of these 1 year olds who are trying to circumvent the existing laws.
On a more serious note (though my comment above isn't entirely light hearted given articles' choice to note that in a case such as this), I think child proof caps could've helped here. I also have purchased a few eliquid bottles that had child proof packaging and/or caps. I'd rather have the option as one who doesn't have kids nor live in a place where kids are around. Sometime childproof caps are annoying to adults. And if we are being honest, a parent / guardian who is acting irresponsibly (by not keeping childproof cap on a bottle when children are present), then it won't really matter how the bottle/cap is made if the problem is simply, cap was left off while toddler was present.
I was about to say that I almost never have the caps on my juice at home and that the child prof caps would do no good, but you beet me to the point.
That being said I have no children in the house, and when there are my doors are locked and my PV and juice stay in my hand or pocket. Oh yeah, the dogs smell the juice then leave it alone, smart little buggers!
Why is it that an arsonist, robber, murderer etc. is "suspected" even when caught by video and/or witnesses, yet in this story, and many like it, before anything is confirmed by specialist (sorry, a police office is not a specialist in these type of cases...) it's the nicotine that has done the deed?
My condolences for the loss of a child, but still...
My condolences for the loss of a child, but still...
Whats next, kids drinking gasoline??
Oh wait.... Kid Drinks Gasoline To Be More Like the Transformers - /Film
Wisconsin child dies, 2nd hospitalized after drinking gasoline - TwinCities.com
Time to shut down the oil refineries.
Oh wait.... Kid Drinks Gasoline To Be More Like the Transformers - /Film
Wisconsin child dies, 2nd hospitalized after drinking gasoline - TwinCities.com
Time to shut down the oil refineries.
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24 hour rule time, I'm waiting until something besides rumors and headlines come out to even start forming an opinion.
Or even an assumption that it was a vaper at this point. Perhaps it was. But also possible that some aspiring ANTZ scientist was doing tests at home, left the bottle out, and toddler drank it.
Until we know differently, it is as prudent to blame ANTZ scientists on what went wrong here as it is to hang this over the vaping community.
Whats next, kids drinking gasoline??
Oh wait.... Kid Drinks Gasoline To Be More Like the Transformers - /Film
Wisconsin child dies, 2nd hospitalized after drinking gasoline - TwinCities.com
Time to shut down the oil refineries.
you would like that wouldnt you, you gosh darn, tree hugging, red bellied lib!!!
j/k just in case you were not sure
"However, police said half a teaspoon of the pure liquid can kill a child. Lawmakers approved a bill back in June that would prohibit the sale of liquid nicotine to minors."
Another example of great reporting... Both of these statements have no place in this story(unless, against all odds, it was actually PURE nicotine).
Another example of great reporting... Both of these statements have no place in this story(unless, against all odds, it was actually PURE nicotine).
The problem is, both statements are, in fact, true. They simply do not actually relate to this tragic event. Unless they had PURE nicotine in their house, which would be incredibly rare since the highest concentrations normally sold commercially would be 10%, or the 1yo/toddler/child went out and purchased the liquid.
Liquid nicotine would kill.
The trouble is the recent media reports trying to equate eliquids to liquid nicotine.
My guess is that it was liquid nicotine.
But do you really think anything else will come out? You've got the dead child, nicotine has been blamed, headlines blared... it's done. Usually with these types of stories, that's the end of it. When an actual cause of death is known, they don't publish follow-up stories. I mean, unless they determine intentional harm but even then, it will still be 'death by e-liquid'.
Yeah, I'd love to get more details as well.. Unfortunately as others have pointed out, media centers won't even have time to chomp at the bit before circulating these kinds of headlines, never injecting any updated information into the mix, should any arise.
A shame on all accounts.
Is there any vapor's organization in NY? Could someone try to contact the hospital/morgue, and ask, "We don't want any private info, like names or anything, but could you call me with the results of the tox screen from the autopsy? We would like to have this info for educating our members"
I predict there is a greater than 50% chance there is no nicotine in this child's system whatsoever.
I predict there is a greater than 50% chance there is no nicotine in this child's system whatsoever.
If I were the parents, I would insist on an autopsy to determine the real cause of death. Other than that, it's all conjecture.
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