Breaking News:: They have shipped!! VISION ETERNITY TEASER PICTURE WITHIN!!!!! Getting Closer Then Ever!!!!

[bappo]

Just got home and this was waiting for me, yea! Put it together immediately, loaded 20 drops of Boba's Bounty, waited...waited... I tried really. 2.0 ohms on the Provari, set it to 4.0v, too hot on a new atty so went to 3.7v. Smoking out the house Fantastic device. easy draw (which I like) with a cool hit.

 

[Robby]

Point made - if 10 out of even 50 people that have used the unit for more than one day have made the leaking observation then that is 20% - the 50 is most likely significantly less which brings the % much higher.

Wishful thinking that they would send out replacement parts to fix the issue but you never know...

Also how many people have no need to come here and post anything because their device is working perfectly. Usually you'll find more people willing to post when they have a problem than when they don't. I bet many issues with leaking can be chalked up to the idea of it being able to hold 40 drops, thats a far shot...I drip 15 and no problems..there is the air hole post in the center that I bet if you put 40 drops in and tilt it to vape you now have your liquid going over the top of the airhole and down into your connection.

 

[WallyO]

Also how many people have no need to come here and post anything because their device is working perfectly. Usually you'll find more people willing to post when they have a problem than when they don't. I bet many issues with leaking can be chalked up to the idea of it being able to hold 40 drops, thats a far shot...I drip 15 and no problems..there is the air hole post in the center that I bet if you put 40 drops in and tilt it to vape you now have your liquid going over the top of the airhole and down into your connection.

How true that is. Particularly in motorcycle forums. Man if you look though those before purchasing a bike it'll probably scare you off. 99 complaints vs 1 praise.
Thankfully the GV forum seems to balance out at a much better proportion.

 

[CoyoteRed]

I think the weak spot in the Eternity is going to be the positive post that is in silicon to isolate it from the base.

This is the post that seems to wiggle the most and if disrupted will let juice leak into the base ,which in turn then lets it leak into and out the 510 connector.

From what I understand and have seen posted is that to reconnect a new wick and coil there is quite a bit of moving of the positive post[The one in silicon] and that it gets moved around a good bit in the process.

This will most likely be what is addressed in version 2 of this device as this is the possible fail of this unit.

Just my thoughts.

All that said I haven't changed my coil and wick and am still amazed at how well this works with the Ego tank,Which if you decide to try make sure to get and use the soft silicon cap instead of the hard plastic one.

 

[Z_Ghost]

Been using it a few days now and no leaking, dropping in around 25 drops of juice.
The flavor seems a bit off now but other then that it's working great.

 

[kwcharlie]

kwcharlie,

Why don't you post a pic of your setup with the Eternity on it. Maybe we can all learn something by using that as a reference...

Looks just like everyone’s on an ego twist, beautiful, doesn’t leak with or without the bottom ring. If I discover something that needs photo to help I’ll try and make some the way you did to excellently illustrate your diagnoses of what is causing the leaking, thanks for that.

 

[DarklyNoon]

Looks like 20-25 drops doesn't leak... Except when I forget to dry the water out of the cup after cleaning... that resulted in juice everywhere.

 

[Ctor]

Also how many people have no need to come here and post anything because their device is working perfectly. Usually you'll find more people willing to post when they have a problem than when they don't. I bet many issues with leaking can be chalked up to the idea of it being able to hold 40 drops, thats a far shot...I drip 15 and no problems..there is the air hole post in the center that I bet if you put 40 drops in and tilt it to vape you now have your liquid going over the top of the airhole and down into your connection.

This may be true, but it appears that the out of the box failure rate is at least 6%. All of the leakage is coming from the same point, the positive post seal. Most haven't changed coils yet, and one needs to put significant pressure on the seal whether they rock it on and off or snap it on and off.

A 6 % failure rate isn't acceptable, and I'm guessing over time (a few weeks, several coil changes, etc.) that rate is going to climb significantly.

Sure, I can get mine not to leak by leaving it on it's side, vaping with the pv horizontal and only putting 10-15 drops in and making sure I keep the unit very tilted when dripping, but that's not what was advertised nor is it what we paid for, and that isn't what was hyped on this forum.

Are we going to simply keep accepting even 6% out of box failure rates or products that last only a few coil changes before not working as advertised?

If we do, we deserve what we get.

 

[kwcharlie]

OK, we get it Ctor. And I was worried about junking up this thread with my “it’s not leaking” posts.

Speaking of "getting it"
I like the 2b // !2b <--? Ctor. My version is: what’s the square root of 4b squared? If someone just studied for their SAT and comes up with 2b you still get to give the other half of the punch line with the negative root.

 

[Ctor]

OK, we get it Ctor. And I was worried about junking up this thread with my “it’s not leaking” posts.

Sorry about the on topic post and addressing comments another poster made. Next time I'll just stick to complaining about other posters' on topic posts.

 

[KrasH]

Your comments were fine and understandable.

The only hype it is not living up to is the 40 drops. The weakness is the positive post. I am still not leaking after a re-seat and I am up to 30 drops. I am going to change the coil tomorrow and see how it does after.

Yes it has issues and I honestly think they will be addressed. A little tweaking and this thing will be 100%.

I am a little more understanding and patient with this new technology.

 

[CoyoteRed]

The ViVi Nova is in my mind one of the best devices out there. Unfortunately I had to buy two versions to get one that worked properly.
The Vision Eternity was supposedly thoroughly tested and I just cant help and wonder how a thoroughly tested device slipped by with such an obvious flaw.
Of course if they do a new revision we all get to buy it again ,which I guess is good for there business and eventually we may get what we were originally were led to believe we were buying .{a thoroughly tested device}
Vision has got to learn to quit selling us a product they know will fail. I'm not an engineer but after talking with a few friends it is apparent that they obviously sold a product they knew would fail.
and I have to wonder if their business model is to sell a product with potential but with a known flaw only to have us buy a newer revision to get what they knew was a flawed product.

So to be a smart and tired of being taken advantage of consumer, When I see a new Vision product I am not going to purchase it until revision 2 or 3 comes out. And will suggest in all forums and posts that we all do the same until they come out with a PROVEN PRODUCT.

 

[kwcharlie]

So you got one coyoteRed? It's OK if you don't and just going by what others have posted.

 

[KrasH]

Have to agree with you. I was going to wait and honestly if I would have waited, I wouldn't have gotten this version.

I am happy with the product for Vapor Performance and Flavor. The potential for leaking and for failure of the positive post in the future are downfalls of poor engineering. I still think they can fix these issues and either give us the newly renovated section or offer it at cost for those off us that just had to have the first batch.

 

[LongDraw]

Does anyone have suggestions on how to get a less airy draw, and a less cool draw?

I wasn't sure if blocking one of the air holes would help give it a more tight draw. I figured the cool draw is because it is so far from the atomizer and I can't think of anything to help with that, plus that is just a wild guess on why it is cool. Otherwise it has worked pretty well, as I put in my review earlier I do notice some liquid from the 510 connection but it is not leaking. I will see how this goes once I change coils.

 

[Robby]

Does anyone have suggestions on how to get a less airy draw, and a less cool draw?

I wasn't sure if blocking one of the air holes would help give it a more tight draw. I figured the cool draw is because it is so far from the atomizer and I can't think of anything to help with that, plus that is just a wild guess on why it is cool. Otherwise it has worked pretty well, as I put in my review earlier I do notice some liquid from the 510 connection but it is not leaking. I will see how this goes once I change coils.

I would say possibly changing your coils to a resistance your more used to for a hotter vape...also when used in tank mode the draw is a bit tighter, and when you vape you can cover one of the holes or just tape over one of them...it may effect how much vapor you get but will definitely tighten up the draw

 

[LongDraw]

I would say possibly changing your coils to a resistance your more used to for a hotter vape...also when used in tank mode the draw is a bit tighter, and when you vape you can cover one of the holes or just tape over one of them...it may effect how much vapor you get but will definitely tighten up the draw

For other tanks I have heard of people put a toothpick point in an air hole, think that would be good, or do you know of better ways to block the air hole?

I just posted this in another thread but thought I'd see if anyone else here knows as well. I picked up some silica wick but it is not tightly wound and is more "fluffy", does this need to be rolled between my hands to tighten it up first?

Thanks for the reply as well, I think you are right about the coil as this is 1.8 and since I started am use to using 2.5 and more like 3.5 ohm atties and such.

 

[kwcharlie]

Teflon tape like plumbers use to thread seal, rolled into a "toothpick" shape, or a toothpick it's just harder to get out

 

[Robby]

As long as you can get the toothpick back out if need be, I did this with the first vivi nova..jammed a toothpick in and broke it off..worked very well...a few weeks later I wanted to take it out to see if I got more vapor and had a tough time...ended up getting it out with a clipping from a guitar string. You won't have that problem with the eternity though. would be easy to take the toothpick piece out if you wanted..so I say go for it and see if it helps.

Edit...the silica wick doesnt need to be tightly wound as long as your coil isn't super loose, but there is no harm in twisting it up a bit before coiling. Also what voltage are you vaping on?

 

[LongDraw]

Teflon tape like plumbers use to thread seal, rolled into a "toothpick" shape, or a toothpick it's just harder to get out

Unfortunately don't have any teflon tape, may have to look into some, thank you.