Bulli Smoker A2 – DIY Atomiser, similar to the Nhaler Ato-miser

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I am surprised that the performance on my current winding hasn't dropped, I haven't cleaned it, blown it out, or anything. I haven't even unscrewed it since I did it. Usually on atomisers, by now, I would of blown it out a few times, maybe dry burned it also to try to give it some extra oomph (killed a few atomisers doing that :blush: haha).

The best thing is, I haven't used any other atomiser since I got this. I have quite a few lying around here and not once have I even been tempted to try anything else. Not sure how the rest of you feel, or how the Nhaler performs in this area, but it does surprise that I am now spending my time looking at juices and flavours rather than batteries and atomisers :laugh:
 

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I'd be interested to hear examples of a long lasting coil as well. I've had the Ato-Miser for about a week, too early to judge coil longevity as I can't stop experimenting with it. I know this is probably in another thread, but what gauge wire does Cetin ship with the A2?

From what I'm seeing from the Ato-Miser, longevity should be very good. I've had mine for a month, I got the double kit. I played with them for about 2 days with different coil variations then built one with the 3ohm wire and the other with 2ohm. Been using them both since and they are still performing like new. I've done a dry burn on each during that time period and was really impressed how clean the coil and wick came out. Looked almost new with no signs of burned wick around the coil. I'm going to continue with a water rinse and dry burn when needed just to see how long they will last. I've been tempted to break them down and experiment during that time but the miser in me just wants to see how long these can go on performing like this.
 

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do you guys think it would be possible to use the stainless steel mesh from the genesis design on the A2?

not sure, because I know the genesis uses the mesh in a vertical position, if it was placed like the wick, you'd have to bend both sides and that probably might hinder it from sucking the juice correctly...will try it though.

It's been over 9 days, my A2 should be coming in soon, will do an indepth review on it after a week of testing.
 

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Pheary, I was just looking at this picture of your A2 http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/phearfactor/bulli smoker a2 atomiser/airhole.jpg

Noticing where the air hole is located. Mine is located at the 2nd ring, not the 3rd like yours. Mine has become broke in and the air hole conveniently lines up with a screw. I thought of sanding down the tube slightly to get the air hole to line up, but if it rotates any further, it will disappear into the threads! I guess I am looking at drilling a new hole and filling the old one if need be.

As far as using SS mesh for a wick? I won't even bother to try it.
 

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Yeah the air hole is a bit troublesome to say the least. Shame really as it lets down a great device. I really hope he changes the air hole location on the A3 :laugh:

I read on the german forums that a person there received one with no airhole at all. So I am assuming the tubes are not made by him although I would of hoped he does check them and that they all go out the same. Quality control issues maybe? :blink:

Like you said though, fairly easy to repair, vice it down and drill a new hole. It is a shame though that these little things let down such a quality item. I got 8 days from my winding used about 25ml of juice, not bad if you ask me. I probably could of made it last longer, but I got bored :facepalm:
 

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Took the dogs for a walk at the park and meant to stop on the way home to pic up some bits small enough for this job and another I gotta do, but in my haste to get home forgot. So I used a little o-ring (from an old CE-2 clearomizer) on the threaded part of the base. It temporarily moved the hole in alignment with the coil and elivated it slightly. Wow what a difference!!! Mad vapor and much better flavor, just like it was new. With this little o-ring, it prevents metal to metal contact of the tube and base, so no wear. Because of that, I may keep it like it is.

So if someone is getting little vapor, a slight burnt tast, and too much TH, take a look at where that hole is aligning in comparison to your coil... as Pheary has already pointed out, it is very critical to performance.
 

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I ordered a few extra cartrigdes with my A2 when I bought it, No hurry, but want to source some in the USA. Does anyone know what these are from??? I had asked Cetin and was told they are cigar cartridges... So I am searching...

NM: They are DSE701 cigar cartridges, with o-rings added by Cetin I believe. Those are easy to get sourced.
 
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I just cut a sliver off a KR808D condom protector to use as an o-ring and its working good!

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The mouthpiece, I think I know what that is. DSE701. Check me out

OKSmokey seems to sell the DSE701 but I cannot find the mouthpieces on there. I think Cetin will get them from here

Or are the mouthpieces inside these? http://www.oksmokey.com/dse701-cigars-and-spares/dse701-cigar-cartridges-5-pack-various.html

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Yes Pheary, those are it (I watched it get pulled out of the cartridge case by igetcha in his review). The only difference is Cetin adds an oring so the user can align the wistle tip to the button on the battery. Glad the sliver of condom is working, I almost did exactly the same and remembered that the new clearomizers had o-rings in the batt connector to keep them from leaking. I like the idea of cutting a condom, cause you can get the thickness needed with a little effort and exacto.
 
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That above picture appears to have an o-ring JR, I think? Although I guess you could take the o-ring from Cetin's if your replacement mouthpieces don't have one.

I ordered a spare mouthpiece from Cetin with the cone and I am 99% sure that my original one didn't come with an o-ring, 1% that I might of lost it, but I really don't think it came with one. Something else people should look out for, as the lining up of the mouthpiece is much much easier with that o-ring and better than vaping side on.

I think the clearomizer o-ring will work better as this sliver is slightly on the fat side haha

(*orders a pack of clearomizers just for the o-rings - d'oh*)
 
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I really want to do a video of the plumes of vapour this A2 makes, just too camera shy haha

Fingers crossed some one will do a video as this is by far the most vapour-excessive atomiser I have ever had the joy of vaping.

Its almost 2 weeks and I'm still waiting for mine...I'll definitely do a vid review on it...I just hope that they saw my comments and that the initial setup is for a 6v pv...
 

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I have been using the same winding now for 2 weeks @ 2.2Ω. It vapes just fine on my Riva, eGo, and Provari. I have been using it on ego types during the day and switching to the Provari in the evening or on my recent road trip. I haven't really been changing flavors (all tobac of some kind). It has done wonderfully. I find the smaller wick lasts better then a slightly longer wick. It also sorta stays up in the tube better to make contact with the cartridge. I top off the cartridge with 20+ drops easily and can vape a long time on it before topping off again. I can also pull the poly out and fill the cartridge roughly 3/4's, then put poly in and drip a few drops to top off. Able to get more into it that way, but need tweezers. The little o-ring (I also cut a carto condom) allows me to set the vent hole right next to the coil, which makes a huge difference in performance. I like this A2 a lot and have been using it as my main device with whatever battery. The only problem with it is aligning the hole with the coil. once you get that it vapes great.
 

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Hey guys in case you guys have not noticed and sorry if it has been mentioned, Cetin has the A2 now listed on his site with the choice of aluminum or stainless. I preordered one in stainless quite a few weeks ago and when I contacted him a week ago he said that I would be the first one that would be going out(from this batch at least) I contacted him again yesterday because I noticed that he had the ss ones listed and he informed me that his nephew made a mistake becasue he does not read english and he sent me an aluminum one. I replied back letting him know that I was disappointed that I would have to wait that much longer( sending the aluminum one back to Germany and then wait for the stainless steel one to come in the mail) He replied back being very apologetic and told me that as soon as the post office opened in the morning he would be shipping the stainless steel one. I was obviously very pleased with how he handled the situation and just wanted to let you guys know that Cetin seems to be a real stand up guy.
BTW the aluminum is waiting for me to pick up at the post office, I know when I look at it, I am not gonna want to send it back but stainless will last forever so I will just be patient. Thanks for the review and all of the tips, I am gonna go through this thread in detail when I get mine.
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