I receive 6 from ZigCig, 2 from Midwest Vapor, 2 from Cignot.


yeah you're missing something..you're attributing the problems to joye who makes starter kits supplied to dozens and dozens of vendors including TW and Janty..where the problem could be that the probelm isn't joye but a supplier that's passing off a "knock-off" as a "genuine joye product"...so given that these dozens and dozens of companies that say "genuine joye" if these so called "bad" ones are coming from one or 2 suppliers they might be misrepresenting..
it seems highly suspect when the factory is cranking out kits and atties on one production line and then broken up to supply the smaller suppliers then it would be an epidemic that hits all suppliers (tw, janty, a a few others have their own seperate production lines)..but it does not seem to be all suppliers...from reading the threads on the forum it seems to be specifics..
So unless it's ALL new user error it doesn't seem to be a manufacturer error...
Of course it could also just be a mind thing..new users reading things like this thread and then starting to worry about "OMG my atty could be bad, is this right or wrong".. same as the VG craze...actual allergies to PG are rare..but how many people read about it and then are suddenly have a PG sensitivity..
Watching this develop too...and the insistance that it's all joye when things just don't add up (you think the suppliers, wouldn't have said something by now?) ...I'm starting to lean more toward user error..I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and think that there might be a supplier issue going on...but fact is that when people refuse to give suppliers and insist that it's a factory problem...that looks highly suspect too
EDIT: well sun says it's not user error so I guess I gotta go with that for now..I still think it's a supplier issue not a factory issue