Can You Explain Temp Control Vaping to an Old Fart ?
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There are many dripper's who use tc Papaw. I'm not one of them, maybe at a later date. I do see the appeal. Not willing to tackle Escribe yet. lol
Hey Pop. The Achilles was the first atty I tried using temp control. It wigged out on me. I admit I didn't give it much of a chance, though. Not sure how titanium acts with TC.
I'm using a Mesh rda in TC tonight.
Its very nice.
Dry hitting that mesh strikes me as a very bad idea.
The Achilles is the only thing I have set up for TC. I'm using Ni200 though and for me, there was just more space in the Achilles for the million wrap coil
also, I can't see when I'm out of juice in that so I like not getting the surprise dry hit that I'm bound to get bc I don't pay attention.
Challenge accepted.
Never done it before. A friend showed me a trick using a bit in a drill motor with the wire in the chuck aside the bit. The motor is now my right hand (my natural right hand is useless), and I can wrap coils again.
Stillare clone
26g SS
3.17mm ID (I used a bamboo skewer)
dual coils at 1.0 Ohms each
Tuck n' run wicks
Started the "project" at about 2000 hours and was cleaned up and drippin' by midnight.
ETA: That's my DIY PB n' Choklit. Just snickery.
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Challenge accepted.
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Never done it before. A friend showed me a trick using a bit in a drill motor with the wire in the chuck aside the bit. The motor is now my right hand (my natural right hand is useless), and I can wrap coils again.
Stillare clone
26g SS
3.17mm ID (I used a bamboo skewer)
dual coils at 1.0 Ohms each
Tuck n' run wicks
Started the "project" at about 2000 hours and was cleaned up and drippin' by midnight.
ETA: That's my DIY PB n' Choklit. Just snickery.
I really wanted an applause icon for this post. It is wonderful that you can use the drill for coil winding. YAY!!!
Strong as goat's breath. With a warning from the mod that the coil's resistance says it's time to re-drip.
I'm doing good just to hold the drill motor still with my right hand while I wrap with my left. Thank God I'm a southpaw. But hey... It works! And I really only need it for a few minutes.
Well I've dipped my toes in TC and decided the water was too cold.
Now I lack a certain amount of patience. My wife would tell you that amount is any, so yeah.
It starts that I am perfectly happy with Wattage mode, dry hits happen but I've gotten good at tasting when it's time to squeeze the bottle or drip. I like the vape I get around 45-60 watts.
Fiddling with TC to find my sweet spot was irritating. I'd find what I thought was it to only decide it wasn't. Fiddling with escribe is not for me. I get irritated deciding on a theme.
More power to those that use it. Thankfully vaping is subjective for the most part and I don't have to stress it beyond what makes me happy.
Now I lack a certain amount of patience. My wife would tell you that amount is any, so yeah.
It starts that I am perfectly happy with Wattage mode, dry hits happen but I've gotten good at tasting when it's time to squeeze the bottle or drip. I like the vape I get around 45-60 watts.
Fiddling with TC to find my sweet spot was irritating. I'd find what I thought was it to only decide it wasn't. Fiddling with escribe is not for me. I get irritated deciding on a theme.
More power to those that use it. Thankfully vaping is subjective for the most part and I don't have to stress it beyond what makes me happy.
THIS - is so true. Some newer vapers wonder why older folks cling to their ProVaris and their Reos, but it just a matter of finding that "sweet spot" in your vaping.
I don't mind exploring new options- dual coils, sub-ohming, temperature control, etc., but I keep going back to a Reos Grand /RM2 single coil at about 11 watts. Been there for five years. Will TC change the way I vape ? Maybe, maybe not. But nothing beats a try !
I'll switch to TC when I can turn the mod on and it asks- Dry Hits- Y or N?
I can wait. I waited 4+ yrs for a decent clearo tank to come out.
I can wait. I waited 4+ yrs for a decent clearo tank to come out.
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I was completely happy vaping KA1 in my DotMod RDA's until I started following @mikepetro 's thread regarding thermal degradation of VG & PG.
His results convinced me that my preferred style of vaping (below) was very likely to mean I was producing a lot more nasty chemicals in my vape than I needed to.
Dial coil, 2mm ID, 5wraps, 24g KA1, 0.2ohm, 45 watts
Which I chain vaped, taking 1 second draws every 8 seconds (10 - 15 draws then stopped for 2hrs: repeat)
I suspect that my coils were regularly over 500F. Yet everything tasted great and I was enjoying the vape.
These days I'm vaping exclusively in TC:
Dual Coil, 3mm ID, 6wraps, 24g SS316L, 0.14 Ohms, 430F, 100watts (TC is hitting 75watts or so before powering down to regulate).
I'm enjoying the vape just as much but happy in the knowledge my coils aren't exceeding 430F.
I probably wouldn't have bothered with TC if it wasn't for the new science pointing to the extra toxins over 450F or so, but I'm perfectly happy with my TC vape now.
It's a personal choice, but I figure its no real hardship to switch to TC and it might do me some good in the long run.
His results convinced me that my preferred style of vaping (below) was very likely to mean I was producing a lot more nasty chemicals in my vape than I needed to.
Dial coil, 2mm ID, 5wraps, 24g KA1, 0.2ohm, 45 watts
Which I chain vaped, taking 1 second draws every 8 seconds (10 - 15 draws then stopped for 2hrs: repeat)
I suspect that my coils were regularly over 500F. Yet everything tasted great and I was enjoying the vape.
These days I'm vaping exclusively in TC:
Dual Coil, 3mm ID, 6wraps, 24g SS316L, 0.14 Ohms, 430F, 100watts (TC is hitting 75watts or so before powering down to regulate).
I'm enjoying the vape just as much but happy in the knowledge my coils aren't exceeding 430F.
I probably wouldn't have bothered with TC if it wasn't for the new science pointing to the extra toxins over 450F or so, but I'm perfectly happy with my TC vape now.
It's a personal choice, but I figure its no real hardship to switch to TC and it might do me some good in the long run.
This was my experience as well. (Including the patience factor. Sounds similar to mine
) My son gave me a Pico mega and I never got a satisfying/stable vape using TC. I just keep tootling along about 7 to 8 Watts happy I’m not smoking or fiddling with settings, software and wire other than kanthal
I enjoy long, deep, cooler draws and I'm looking for a thick, flavorful fog. I'm mostly vaping DL now, and my exhale is through both the nose and mouth, and that's where I get a lot of the flavor. For me, somewhere between 35 and 45 Watts is just right, and the atty's characteristics determine where I fall.
In power mode, there were some devices that would start the temp warning halfway through. Very frustrating because the length, depth and temperature just weren't there.
The Kanger SSOC 316's and SSOC Clapton's are all TC'd. Using TC with larger diameter coils and thicker wire are getting me where I want to be in the Battlestar RTA and a Serpent Mini. Right now, I'm playing with 316L 26g and wrapping 2.5 to 3 mm coils, shooting for about 0.5 Ohms. And, wow.
Plus, tanks that I had given up for dead because of their tendency to be dry hit machines when not treated just so are getting second chances. The UD Goblin used to be an RTA that I could never get wicked right.
The only tanks I'm not using TC on are the Estoc, Melo III and Juppi. Oh, and the Baby Beasts, though I do have the BB RBA.
Even my "Problem Children" (aka Trons) are behaving better with SS coils in CLR heads.
In power mode, there were some devices that would start the temp warning halfway through. Very frustrating because the length, depth and temperature just weren't there.
The Kanger SSOC 316's and SSOC Clapton's are all TC'd. Using TC with larger diameter coils and thicker wire are getting me where I want to be in the Battlestar RTA and a Serpent Mini. Right now, I'm playing with 316L 26g and wrapping 2.5 to 3 mm coils, shooting for about 0.5 Ohms. And, wow.
Plus, tanks that I had given up for dead because of their tendency to be dry hit machines when not treated just so are getting second chances. The UD Goblin used to be an RTA that I could never get wicked right.
The only tanks I'm not using TC on are the Estoc, Melo III and Juppi. Oh, and the Baby Beasts, though I do have the BB RBA.
Even my "Problem Children" (aka Trons) are behaving better with SS coils in CLR heads.
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