Capitalists, artisans and vaping

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caramel

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How do you know I cannot afford it?
I do not want it.

I am sorry you have to make such futile assumptions to support your point.

Then why did you feel the need to rationalize your not wanting it?
 

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Interesting. They love Japan so much?

This is why every country hates lending China money

Actually, it is China who lends money.
 

caramel

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people blowin off steam.

Ain't that called vaping? :laugh:

BTW how do you like my dual atty setup?

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An emerging convergence in the market place may be beginning to blur the distinctions. Case in point: this week, Provape has a bare Zenkote Provari 2.5 on sale for $110.00 and Yihi is scheduling shipments of the SX Mini "M" at a MAP of $199.00. Might be a bit of an apples to oranges comparison with respect to last gen next gen devices but it is still a fruit to fruit comparison IMHO.
 

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Then why did you feel the need to rationalize your not wanting it?

Rationalize? Me?
OK, I’ll will.

Suppose I have a headache. Suppose I can buy tablets which will help me. Suppose I can buy these tablets either in plastic bottle or in silver box with each tablet wrapped in golden foil.
Question: What should I buy? Will silver box and gold wrapping make tablets work better?

Vaping for me is not a hobby but smoking cessation method. Copper tubes with engravings and handmade in America atties have no advantages for my purpose.

EDIT: After a bit of self-psychoanalysis I shell admit that vaping is a hobby of sort for me: vape pleasantly with as little spending as possible. Creates new possibilities. And new threads on ECF.
 
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It reads to me as a rant against overpriced items.

Not at all. I have nothing against “overpriced items” and I have nothing against people buying them (whether they are collectors or believers in strong connection between price and quality). It is rant against opinion that these “overpriced items” are definitely the best ones for vaping.
 

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As for the original post: if you can't afford an expensive item, then so be it. No need to pretend you don't like it. Sour grapes et all.
have you ever read a book called "the millionaire next door" or talked to any self made millionaire. the ones I know value frugality and look for well made products at the cheapest price they can find. just because you can afford an expensive item does not mean its the best choice for you.I use a vaporizer to help me quit smoking and not as a status symbol. I am not trying to impress anyone but am happy that I have been tobacco free for 3 month because of these products.all my equipment came from ebay or fastech.and I am happy with it. you do not need a fancy gold plated mod or tank to quit smoking. I have mechanical mods and RTAs and RBAs but my little 1100ma stick battery and kanger mt3 are still my favorite and cost less than $10 from ebay. use what ever you like and what works for you. the goal here is to get off tobacco or at least cut back
 

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Not at all. I have nothing against “overpriced items” and I have nothing against people buying them (whether they are collectors or believers in strong connection between price and quality). It is rant against opinion that these “overpriced items” are definitely the best ones for vaping.

The best ones are those that the buyer really wanted.
 

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I'm tired of hearing songs on the radio where the singer is auto-tuned and no one in the "band" can play an instrument.

Products that get mass consumption man! How do it werk?
Digital music. Mp3 sound is insanely terrible but nobody knows it. Nobody cares. They beat you with their stupidity then win by experience.
 

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I don't really like these threads but this one has me a little more interested in commenting.

For me, I like to support good innovation & creativity. that doesn't mean that every authentic I've ever liked has been priced in a way I consider reasonable. Even if they can justify WHY they're asking that price for it, if it's not worth that price to me then I won't buy.

That said, I rarely buy ANYTHING outside of the consumables I need to vape & those aren't much. so when I do, I support the innovator of whatever it is I'm purchasing before anyone else. If someone's made a product I think is good enough to provoke me to buy it then they deserve to be the one who gets my money for that product.
 

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[...] but my little 1100ma stick battery and kanger mt3 are still my favorite and cost less than $10 from ebay. use what ever you like and what works for you. the goal here is to get off tobacco or at least cut back

See my previous post - if that is what you really wanted then it is the best one for you period.
 

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have you ever read a book called "the millionaire next door" or talked to any self made millionaire. the ones I know value frugality and look for well made products at the cheapest price they can find. just because you can afford an expensive item does not mean its the best choice for you.
I can afford any car I want, but I drive a Pontiac Vibe.
My wife drives a used Mercury Sable.

We didn't get to the point we are at financially by throwing money around.
So I agree with the concept of your post.

On the other hand, those that throw money around to chase bigger and better do support innovation.
So perhaps I am a bit unpatriotic.
:)
 

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It's a dumbed down, disposable bling bling society of consumers.
It's not their fault, they were raised that way by design.

They don't value logic or responsibility. They dont take the long view.

Bling is king
The think the more flash you have, the more cash you have.

Obscene excess is their sign of wealth.
It isnt how much you have, it's how much you can waste.

Smart people make a killing of these tools.
 

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They're not working for nothing. It will surprise you, but from a purchasing power POV (on internal market), the Chinese have surpassed you.

China Economy Surpasses US In Purchasing Power, But Americans Don't Need To Worry

It all comes from the exchange rate and it's not the Chinese at fault (see the "petrodollar" previously mentioned).
Yes, their GDP now exceeds ours when measured by PPP, but what you're forgetting is that their GDP has to be divvied up among 4.25 times as many people. That makes their GDP per capita, a number that's somewhat reflective of living standards, less than 1/4 of ours.

Still, they have made great strides and will probably continue to. Hopefully one of these days, they'll actually develop some ethics to go with their new-found prosperity.
 
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