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Update on mudslide.
8 dead
108 reported missing
49 homes destroyed
7 homes flooded due to the River backing up

People and dogs are still searching on the ground and helicopters in the air but they haven't found anyone alive since Sat. :(

Lots of pics here: Washington slide death toll 14; search continues | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News

I heard it mentioned on the news on the radio today, and they said 8 people had died, so where did the 14 come from? Is that the latest statistic?

Nothing beats those photos someone posted on another thread, which you provided the link for the other day. I can't stop thinking about those people calling for help who now can't be found.

On the radio, they said this area had a slide once before, and no one can predict where it'll happen, but it's a lot more likely to happen where there already was a slide. So don't anyone go living near where there had been a landslide before.
 

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I heard it mentioned on the news on the radio today, and they said 8 people had died, so where did the 14 come from? Is that the latest statistic?

Nothing beats those photos someone posted on another thread, which you provided the link for the other day. I can't stop thinking about those people calling for help who now can't be found.

On the radio, they said this area had a slide once before, and no one can predict where it'll happen, but it's a lot more likely to happen where there already was a slide. So don't anyone go living near where there had been a landslide before.

There's been conflicting casualty totals but latest I've seen are saying 14 dead now. Several bodies were recovered today.

I found the area on Google Earth and you can see that there was a slide there before and a couple near by in the past. You would think people would take that into consideration before they build. In that link of photos that I posted earlier you can see where there were slides in the past.

The good news is the found a Labrador still alive today I think. I'm not sure when they found him.
 

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Labs are tougher than humans. Remember where the breed originated.

Why do people live in places where landslides are common? Why do people live on faultlines? (This ought to get Lizzie) Why do people live in deserts? Why do people live on the Mississippi River bottomlands? Why do people live in New Orleans and the Netherlands? Why do people live....... Many reasons, but few that stand up to hard facts, other than the land is cheap and they don't have much money----and/or the real estate agent lied to them.

Pretty doesn't cut it. The risk is low-- but the consequences are high.
 
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The tutoring report.

The boy started off. I went over his words from last time. He had not written out definitions of the ones he was assigned as homework. I'm beginning to think that homework is something I just shouldn't expect. But I had made a fill-in-the-blanks from those words, and he couldn't do it unless he knew what the words meant, so we went over them. He learned to pronounce them and what they meant, though he kept forgetting. I kept reminding. It's a way to learn the words. That's the important thing. Needing to know them to complete something seems to provide motivation than just telling him about them. So this evening, I made up another fill-in-the-blanks from the same words, but the sentences are a lot more complex. I expect there will be some words in the sentences that he won't know on Wednesday, and those will become next week's words.

When he finished that, I could see that he had worked hard and was ready to quit, so we didn't do any additional reading. He was intimidated by the fact that the worksheet was 3 pages long, though I pointed out that I had made the type large and put space between the lines so it was easier to read and he had room to write. I said I could have made it smaller, and then it might have only been a page. He accepted that.

Then his sister joined us for the letter G in the alphabet book. They tired of it quickly, so I worked with the girl, and the boy went upstairs.

She had a fill-in-the-blanks worksheet, too. She hadn't studied the words, either, though she seemed to remember hers better than her brother. The list was shorter, and the words were easier, which may be why. When she finished that, we read the 2 books that had been sent home from school in her purple folder, which was at the house this time. She whizzed through the books, which I expected she would. When she acted like she didn't want to read them, I said, "Come on. You'll breeze through them. They are always easy for you. It won't take long." I don't understand why she resists these easy books so much. In the 2 books, there was only one word she didn't know: clever. Of course, there were some more in the worksheet I had made up. Those will be for next time.

Then she did a word search. This was made up of words from previous lessons, and she knew most of them. She was muttering them to herself as she was looking for them. Good! That's the idea! And circling them is learning how to spell them, though just doing it once isn't going to teach her the spelling. Still, it's going to make their structure and spelling more familiar.

Then it was time to go. In fact, I had stayed an extra half hour.

One thing I was encouraged by was that when the girl was doing her worksheet, and I suggested that if she didn't know the answer, she should skip the sentence and move on to the next, then go back to the ones that gave her more trouble, she didn't resist. I remember when the boy resisted. Now he will do it if I remind him. The girl has never wanted to do this till today. It's an important step. I'm not sure quite why, though I sense it. If they take tests in school, they should skip what they don't know and move on so they don't get hung up on question #2 and spend their whole time contemplating it. Do what you know, then go back to figure out the hard ones. Both kids had trouble with this concept. The boy now does it easily when I suggest it, but only today did the girl relent and try the strategy. I think this is some sort of thinking outside the box, that not everything has to be linear. And it'll certainly serve them well in school when they take tests. I don't know where I learned this or when. Maybe I had to figure it out myself. Maybe at some distant point, a teacher suggested it. But it's the only sensible way to take a test.

I went to Moe's for dinner. This is a neat fast-food restaurant with a Mexican bent. On Mondays, they have burritos at half price, so I can eat for under $10. I always order the Homewrecker. If you're curious about Moe's, see Welcome to Moes | Moes Southwest Grill | About Moes
 

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There's been conflicting casualty totals but latest I've seen are saying 14 dead now. Several bodies were recovered today.

I found the area on Google Earth and you can see that there was a slide there before and a couple near by in the past. You would think people would take that into consideration before they build. In that link of photos that I posted earlier you can see where there were slides in the past.

The good news is the found a Labrador still alive today I think. I'm not sure when they found him.

I heard or read somewhere that some of the houses were 100 years old, so the community had been around long before anyone probably realized they were living in there shadow of danger. In fact, on the radio, a geologist said that they were on a floodplain by the river, and the likelihood of getting flooded must have looked more probable than the slide. I guess you just never can tell when and where disaster will strike.

I didn't hear about the dog. Do you have more info?
 

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Sunday late afternoon I often go to a Mexican restaurant with friends. I tried something new. It was a tortilla stuffed with onions, mushrooms, and spinach, with cheese on top. On the side was stir-fried broccoli, carrots, and squash. And of course, Spanish rice. It was good, and I will order it again. In fact, it was a double meal, I finished it off a few hours ago.

Yeah, the family has owned the land/house for years and years would be another, but by then they would have learned to adapt and protect themselves. There was a lot of talk about the government buying up floodplain land after the midwest floods some twenty years ago, and not maintain the levees. That would protect more valuable real estate by providing some place for the water to go. I don't think they ever followed through with it.

I find it surprising that they didn't build support in such a place where mudslides are a probability. Unless the community/county didn't have the financial resources to do that.
 
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I heard or read somewhere that some of the houses were 100 years old, so the community had been around long before anyone probably realized they were living in there shadow of danger. In fact, on the radio, a geologist said that they were on a floodplain by the river, and the likelihood of getting flooded must have looked more probable than the slide. I guess you just never can tell when and where disaster will strike.

I didn't hear about the dog. Do you have more info?

No more info on the dog so I assume he survived. That was the only bright spot in this whole mess.
 

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I find it surprising that they didn't build support in such a place where mudslides are a probability. Unless the community/county didn't have the financial resources to do that.

I heard some discussion of that, and apparently, it would have been a major undertaking, nearly impossible, and no one really knew what devastation would happen in that particular area.
 

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There are some walls but they are mostly to catch rocks and boulders that tumble down the mountain. In this case a wall wouldn't have done any good. This slide was so massive it would have taken out any wall. It was a mile wide and in some places 20' deep. This little town of Osle was out in the sticks so they didn't have much money or resources. The nearest town is Arlington and it is very small. Seattle is 55 miles south so they don't care about anybody up in the hills that far away until there is a crisis. People and resources from all over the state and the country have been helping in the rescue and helping the survivors. Why does it always take a crisis to bring people together, to be kind, giving and helpful to one another?
 

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Good morning. The robins are out in force, even though we had another light dusting of snow last night. The deer were under the crabapple tree, too, but when I opened my window blinds to take pictures, they ran away. Still, I got photos of them the other day, so how many deer under the tree do you want to see, anyway? So this morning, it's one of the flock of robins.



They are still singing their morning song. They have a more melodic song in morning and evening than the staccato chirp during the day. Some years ago, I went on a day trip by canoe down one of the rivers in the New Jersey Pine Barrens, and the other person in the canoe heard the melodic song and asked what bird it was. I said it was a robin, and that it was odd that they were singing that song in the middle of the day. The guide said they are a member of the lark family, and larks are known for changing their song depending on the amount of light, so I guess since the light is not as strong in morning and evening, that's why they sing the song then.
 

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Sunday late afternoon I often go to a Mexican restaurant with friends. I tried something new. It was a tortilla stuffed with onions, mushrooms, and spinach, with cheese on top. On the side was stir-fried broccoli, carrots, and squash. And of course, Spanish rice. It was good, and I will order it again. In fact, it was a double meal, I finished it off a few hours ago.

Yeah, the family has owned the land/house for years and years would be another, but by then they would have learned to adapt and protect themselves. There was a lot of talk about the government buying up floodplain land after the midwest floods some twenty years ago, and not maintain the levees. That would protect more valuable real estate by providing some place for the water to go. I don't think they ever followed through with it.

I find it surprising that they didn't build support in such a place where mudslides are a probability. Unless the community/county didn't have the financial resources to do that.

Sounds really yummy. I wonder if Hubby would try that at home? I'll have to run it by him.
 
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