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I mean, like, wow. She probably had to go to her "safe space" and hold her woobie for hours after that. He asked her all kinds of uncomfortable questions.
Reality versus the fairy tale land, and it's spreading like wild fire here.
Reality versus the fairy tale land, and it's spreading like wild fire here.
Search for the Yale incident about the haloween costumes. The Master/Professor is Greek too.
I would have kicked those kids on the face.
Probably the rest of the world agrees with the Professor.
Also search for the "Yale Students Demand SAFE SPACE!" Video (can't post link cause it contains a few offensive words so view at your own risk)
I would have kicked those kids on the face.
Probably the rest of the world agrees with the Professor.
Also search for the "Yale Students Demand SAFE SPACE!" Video (can't post link cause it contains a few offensive words so view at your own risk)
It was more like watching a well armed soldier fight someone with a squirt gun, oops I said "gun" and that might offend someone who isn't in their safe zone. OMG
Isn't there something pitiful about watching an unequal contest? It would have been better if he was arguing with someone his equal who had an opposing view.
From the viewpoint of pure debate, it wasn't very even to say the least. Cavuto was in command of all the facts while the young woman only had feelings and opinions to work with. Anyone at his level might hold different views, but at that level knowing the real numbers involved kind of makes an opposite viewpoint very hard to take. I have to wonder if the people with student loans, that want them forgiven, were ignorant of what they were doing when they signed the loan papers and selected areas of study that couldn't support the loan payments and their desired lifestyle.
From the viewpoint of illustrating what is wrong here, it was quite informative. People with a wish list and no clue what it takes to achieve their desires. They seem to live in an alternate universe of hearts and flowers.
From the viewpoint of illustrating what is wrong here, it was quite informative. People with a wish list and no clue what it takes to achieve their desires. They seem to live in an alternate universe of hearts and flowers.
OK, I might be living in an alternate universe, but don't you think arguments like this were made when someone proposed free public education for children through high school? I also realize that our schools are in financial trouble, and we're having trouble affording even that, but somehow, we allot enough money to keep it going, even if it's not as good a system as we wish.
With education more and more a necessity for jobs as business gets more mechanized and computerized, it seems that if you don't have some sort of higher education these days, you'll wind up flipping burgers for minimum wage. And people just can't live on the minimum wage these days. If people can't find jobs, they will have to go on public assistance of some sort, and that costs, too, and gives people plenty of time to get into trouble as well. Wouldn't it be better sense to provide some sort of career training so even poor people could get it? Maybe not graduate degrees, but some sort of 2-year community college where people could learn skills that high schools don't offer? Or maybe get high schools to offer this?
I don't know how to solve the problem, but there is a problem, and the college kids are trying to make people aware, even if they, too, don't know how to address the problem.
Do you have a solution, Awsum? Should the jobless and untrained poor starve and be homeless? Maybe we have so many wars because the powers-that-be figure they can at least be cannon fodder, though even war is getting more mechanized and more skilled people are needed because of that.
And the unemployed poor, with lots of time on their hands, are pumping out babies, yet certain segments say they shouldn't be given free birth control, but instead, we should support their babies. Does that make sense?
Sure, poor people should realize they can't afford kids and refrain from having them, but that's wishful thinking, so we can't even consider that as an option.
I think people should have equal opportunity, and if only the rich can afford to have their kids trained for good jobs, that seems unequal to me.
With education more and more a necessity for jobs as business gets more mechanized and computerized, it seems that if you don't have some sort of higher education these days, you'll wind up flipping burgers for minimum wage. And people just can't live on the minimum wage these days. If people can't find jobs, they will have to go on public assistance of some sort, and that costs, too, and gives people plenty of time to get into trouble as well. Wouldn't it be better sense to provide some sort of career training so even poor people could get it? Maybe not graduate degrees, but some sort of 2-year community college where people could learn skills that high schools don't offer? Or maybe get high schools to offer this?
I don't know how to solve the problem, but there is a problem, and the college kids are trying to make people aware, even if they, too, don't know how to address the problem.
Do you have a solution, Awsum? Should the jobless and untrained poor starve and be homeless? Maybe we have so many wars because the powers-that-be figure they can at least be cannon fodder, though even war is getting more mechanized and more skilled people are needed because of that.
And the unemployed poor, with lots of time on their hands, are pumping out babies, yet certain segments say they shouldn't be given free birth control, but instead, we should support their babies. Does that make sense?
Sure, poor people should realize they can't afford kids and refrain from having them, but that's wishful thinking, so we can't even consider that as an option.
I think people should have equal opportunity, and if only the rich can afford to have their kids trained for good jobs, that seems unequal to me.
There are many community colleges (two-year degrees), and many high-achieving students take classes there which apply to both high school and university credit. What about kids who shine in the vocational track (politically incorrect term) being allowed to do the same? In such a situation, tuition should be free for both. Once that experiment has shown its merits, perhaps they ought to assess the possibility of free public education for 14 years.
Yes, I do see the problem and education is no longer education. It's studying the effects of Lady Gaga on culture and equally useless courses that are not related to any real career that can produce success. If you look at the performance of the US education system it has declined steadily since the mid 60's, when the Federal Government started to become more and more heavily involved in all levels of education. At the same time the costs started going up and up. Students end up getting loans of $100,000 dollars to get a degree in Criminal Justice to get a job that pays, at best, $40,000 after five or ten years. Where's the sense in that? Now, they want that debt forgive, because they made poor choices. I don't think so.
Philadelphia is spending about $20,000 per student on their public schools. In spite of that there is no toilet paper in some schools and they are clamoring for more money for education. About 60 or 70 percent of that per student cost is spent on pensions and benefits. Then add in the number of administrators needed to comply with Federal mandates and the students are the ones who lose. The system is just not working and throwing more money at it is not going to fix anything.
The rich, the one percent, are already paying about 50% of the income taxes paid here. About 50% of the people are paying no income taxes at all for various reasons. That leaves the remaining 49% to make up the difference. Equality does not only apply to opportunity, it applies to obligations as well.
To top it all off, our "centers of higher education", champions of free speech in the 60's and 70's, now are suspending it, and the First Amendment of the Constitution, to provide "safe zones" so that students aren't exposed to thoughts that don't match theirs, exactly. The inmates are starting to run the asylums.
Philadelphia is spending about $20,000 per student on their public schools. In spite of that there is no toilet paper in some schools and they are clamoring for more money for education. About 60 or 70 percent of that per student cost is spent on pensions and benefits. Then add in the number of administrators needed to comply with Federal mandates and the students are the ones who lose. The system is just not working and throwing more money at it is not going to fix anything.
The rich, the one percent, are already paying about 50% of the income taxes paid here. About 50% of the people are paying no income taxes at all for various reasons. That leaves the remaining 49% to make up the difference. Equality does not only apply to opportunity, it applies to obligations as well.
To top it all off, our "centers of higher education", champions of free speech in the 60's and 70's, now are suspending it, and the First Amendment of the Constitution, to provide "safe zones" so that students aren't exposed to thoughts that don't match theirs, exactly. The inmates are starting to run the asylums.
If community college had been free, I would have gone on to college for sure. I was really smart but from a super chaotic and poor family.
I believe that having a well educated populace is important.
I think we will be welcoming a rat terrier into the family in a couple of months!
I believe that having a well educated populace is important.
I think we will be welcoming a rat terrier into the family in a couple of months!
I'm going to quote Business Insider on the tax issue.
'But "taxes" are not the same thing as "federal personal income taxes." The federal personal income tax only made up 28% of all U.S. government tax collections in 2012. Federal, state and local governments collected $4 trillion in taxes last year; just $1.1 trillion of that was federal personal income tax.
And people with low incomes who don't pay federal personal income tax do pay lots of those other taxes: payroll tax, state income tax, sales tax, property tax, excise taxes, and more. They pay other taxes indirectly: Workers bear the burden of employer-paid payroll taxes and part of the burden of corporate income taxes.'
'But "taxes" are not the same thing as "federal personal income taxes." The federal personal income tax only made up 28% of all U.S. government tax collections in 2012. Federal, state and local governments collected $4 trillion in taxes last year; just $1.1 trillion of that was federal personal income tax.
And people with low incomes who don't pay federal personal income tax do pay lots of those other taxes: payroll tax, state income tax, sales tax, property tax, excise taxes, and more. They pay other taxes indirectly: Workers bear the burden of employer-paid payroll taxes and part of the burden of corporate income taxes.'
My point being that the 1% are already paying the majority of all taxes, Federal income, payroll, property, excise and so on, the 50% that are paying no taxes are paying no Federal income tax. Government revenue is already at an all time high and still climbing and it's "still not enough". When does it stop? What is enough? No one can define that other than when "this wish list is done", but then there's always another wish list. With the National Debt at almost $19,000,000,000,000 already we just can't grant wishes and dreams willy nilly.
The 1% generate the jobs, not the Government. Government consumes about 30% of the revenue it receives, across the board, including the revenue for programs like Food Stamps and other "entitlements". Increasing the size and scope of Government guarantees more money is spent just to increase the size and scope. Just wait until the FDA makes it's dictating, err, ahh, deeming, to see what that scope and size expansion does for vaping as an example.
The 1% generate the jobs, not the Government. Government consumes about 30% of the revenue it receives, across the board, including the revenue for programs like Food Stamps and other "entitlements". Increasing the size and scope of Government guarantees more money is spent just to increase the size and scope. Just wait until the FDA makes it's dictating, err, ahh, deeming, to see what that scope and size expansion does for vaping as an example.
I don't want to be too controversial since we all have opinions and none of our opinions make a huge difference in this world but I will point out that the military budget is something like half or more of our spending. I often think we need to cut back on that. To me that is outrageous.
Without that military spending there might not be anything else to spend on. Freedom is, definitely, not free.
AMEN! I thought you would never going to say that.
There is a very cheap method, you still have 4300~ nukes. Spend a few on them, problem solved.
However without the military there seems to be lack of new technologies but i believe the space programs might cover it all up (and academic research).
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How much could we reduce military spending if we limited our expenses to just covering defensive, and not offensive, things? I know a lot are the same, but if we didn't get so involved in other countries, we could save a lot of money. Also, other countries might look on the USA more favorably, and maybe we wouldn't need a war on terror at home. Yes, there are always going to be some disgruntled people who will shoot up a school or shopping mall, but I think we could eliminate a lot of violence and trouble by scaling back the military, and I bet we could spend the money saved elsewhere to the greater benefit of all.
Also, I think there should be more vigilance about how public money is spent. I bet a lot is pilfered, and instead of focusing on terrorists, we might want to focus on who those people are.
As for schools spending money in the wrong place, I think you may be right, Awsum. I bet we could simplify the process and teach the kids just as well. For instance, why have textbooks? Why not instead, a handbook of the topics that should be covered in a certain year, and let the teachers figure out the best way to present the info? Textbooks are boring, and there are probably other, more interesting ways of presenting the info.
I bought 2 books covering the Common Core English standards for the boy last year, and wound up hardly using them. I'd rather find stuff on the Internet that I think is more pertinent or interesting or whatever. I realize that I'm teaching individual kids, so the education is supplementary and not mass-produced, but still ...
Also, I think there should be more vigilance about how public money is spent. I bet a lot is pilfered, and instead of focusing on terrorists, we might want to focus on who those people are.
As for schools spending money in the wrong place, I think you may be right, Awsum. I bet we could simplify the process and teach the kids just as well. For instance, why have textbooks? Why not instead, a handbook of the topics that should be covered in a certain year, and let the teachers figure out the best way to present the info? Textbooks are boring, and there are probably other, more interesting ways of presenting the info.
I bought 2 books covering the Common Core English standards for the boy last year, and wound up hardly using them. I'd rather find stuff on the Internet that I think is more pertinent or interesting or whatever. I realize that I'm teaching individual kids, so the education is supplementary and not mass-produced, but still ...
The best defense, has always been and always will be, a good offense. If your enemy knows that certain destruction will occur is the best way to defend yourself. There is tremendous waste in our military spending, thanks in large part, to our wonderful legislators and their pet projects. We just spent $500,000 to build a gas station in Afghanistan that should have cost $50,000, a project by the military to help the population. The icing on the cake there is that the gas station is a propane filling station and there are no propane fueled vehicles, at least not a significant number, in all of Afghanistan let alone where it was built. Converting a gasoline engine would cost about $700 which is more than the average Afghani makes in a year. Oh yes, the people that ran the project seem to have "disappeared" and can't be found to answer why it cost ten times what it should have.
If textbook are eliminated, where would the professors get their "fun money" from? Not very likely with the system that we have now. Common Core is the biggest waste of public funds to come down the education pike in a long time and under/miss educates the students in the process. Like I said, the system is broken and needs serious work before anything constructive will happen no matter how much money is thrown at it from any source. Why we seem to think the Federal Government can determine what an efficient and thorough education is beats the heck out of me. They can't even hang on to a blimp.
The kids you're working with are extremely lucky, Sandy. They have a teacher that is interested in educating them, not doing time and collecting a pension.
If textbook are eliminated, where would the professors get their "fun money" from? Not very likely with the system that we have now. Common Core is the biggest waste of public funds to come down the education pike in a long time and under/miss educates the students in the process. Like I said, the system is broken and needs serious work before anything constructive will happen no matter how much money is thrown at it from any source. Why we seem to think the Federal Government can determine what an efficient and thorough education is beats the heck out of me. They can't even hang on to a blimp.
The kids you're working with are extremely lucky, Sandy. They have a teacher that is interested in educating them, not doing time and collecting a pension.
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