"clearomizer" round up for 808s...

[skelley]

Part 2

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Should we expect 808 versions of the Phoenix line at some point?

cool i can have them in 808 but there is a high moq, so ill get them on the next batch if people really want them in 808

Okay, Chris... Thanks for the information. Perhaps others will express an interest. Thanks again.

Those with an interest in 808 versions of the Phoenix Line might express an interest here...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...view-top-bottom-coil-new-design-no-wires.html

 

[skelley]

I don't personally buy from them anymore, tired of always seeing 'sold out', but they do a very good job of advertising.
Tomato / Tomahto, no matter what website brands the item, it's still the same item from the same manufacture.
You just need to find the manufactures brand name and you can get it in stock/sooner, if not cheaper at another place.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

skelley - Yes, I understand and I don't disagree.

The bottom coil Phoenix seems that it might be a further development of the Vortex/G4/Vapromizer, etc. type of cartos. It can be a frustration to sort out the products from different providers. Of course they use differnt trade names and/or nomenclature. I applaud the previous efforts in this thread to do some sorting out between providers.

If a supplier that offers the same product became known to me, I'd certainly take a look at it.

Thanks for your comments.

 

[Charlz]

More info on those.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...l-clearomizers-no-not-ce3s-your-thinking.html

A review. CE3 XL Clearomizers Review - Better than the Smokymizer?

I've been told there will be an 808 version available and a 3ml cone shape. Still looks like they have the average life of a cartomizer though. That's all I know for now.

I'm guessing they will be using the vision shell for the cone shape like I do with my ce2/vision mod. But I only feel comfortable putting 2ml in it and haven't tried more. I don't go past the bottom of the black sleeve below the ce2 cup. I know right off the bat to subtract .2 to .4 ml from any claim a supplier makes on clearo capacity. Still, 2.5 would be very good.

 

[Grantah]

Clearomizer list of forum suppliers!!!

•Nhaler: eGo Crystal Carto (808 compatible)
•MyVaporStore: Ultimate CE2 XL
•HealthCabins: Vision eGo 808/vGo
•MadVapes: 808 Clearomizer (sold out)
•Cloud9Vaping: G4 v2
•VaporFlow: 808 Crystal Vision
•LibertyFlights: G4
•GoodProphets: Metal CE2
•GotVapes: Fluxomizer(sold out),
Fluxomizer Delux(sold out),
Vision Stardust 808 (5.95) WOW it's not sold out
•LiteCigUSA: Bottom Feed Clearomizer
•CigEasy: 808 Clear and Easy Tank (not really sure what this one is)
•GoodeJuice: 808 XL Clearomizer (sold out)
•SmokelessImage: Volt X2 Clearomizer (looks like a Vision/Stardust)
•TheVaporGirl: iTurbo/CE4,
808 Candy Clearos

These are the ones I was able to find, by searching thru the forum suppliers' web sites. I'm sure there are probably some I missed and other suppliers that are not listed in the ECF suppliers page.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

so I think a few of you fellas got the CE2 Ultimates from My Vapor Store (skelley, grantah?)

are they identical to fluxomizers?

The only difference I see from the picture is, the top cap is not the 'new and improved' cup seal that gotvapes says their ultimates are going to have. Personally I don't care because I like my fluxos better than my vision anyway, and don't mind the cup seal modding

but 2.4 ohms in black is tempting, especially because gotvapes says they're not going to carry colors anymore. black would blend in with my hot rodded echo 'cone' and echo batt a bit better

got my two Iturbos from Smokeless Image. They thread almost perfectly onto my riva 901, just a small gap as they don't screw all the way down on the threads. but for whatever reason I filled out of the box and used as assembled with a slight lift up of the silicone seal and didn't get a single gurgle or drip down the center tube.

Kind of weird, as the only way I can get that effect from the Iturbos is to lose the nipple entirely, pull up or lose the silicone, etc. I also noticed that the nipple on this one seems to have notches at the base, kind of like teeth

EDIT: The other variable of course, is the draw on a manual (for me) tends to be much more relaxed...I'm just kind of sitting there letting the vapor come into my mouth. The auto draw tends to put more pressure on the Iturbo and can lead to overwicking and flooding faster. So maybe that's all it is. But then again the Iturbos can cause problems on my 901 manual without the said modding.

 

[Charlz]

Not recommended Cyrus. They are cheap. Ordered 2.4-2.6 they all came 2.6 and up. The posts wiggles out way too easy from the black silicon at the bottom and two of them weren't even vented. I had to break little pieces off the threads for vents and it was way too easy. Could have been an issue to bring up with them and let them fix but I ordered 3 things. All three were terrible. Sorry. You know I'm not out for the throat for anyone but you asked.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Thank you charlz, saved me some frustrations

 

[skelley]

The last batch of CE2 Ultimate Clearomizers (Version 6) XL's I purchased came from esmokeronline, they had a tank I wanted to try so I added a pack with my order.
Deluxe Flux's are CE2 ultimate clearo's to me.

The bottom coil Phoenix that bad is vaping in the vid looks identical to the latest CE3's from MiT that I have been using.
I believe he said something about them being converted to easy fill, but I don't remember if it was the top/bottom or maybe even both.

My current rotation atm is 3-CE2's; 5-CE3's & 1-boge carto. I have to use a carto with my Dripeez watermelon juice as it will leak in anything else.

Edit: The CE3's I have been using are not smokymizers. They don't have a inner bung that needs removed to fill.

 

[Charlz]

The bottom coil Phoenix that bad is vaping in the vid looks identical to the latest CE3's from MiT that I have been using.
I believe he said something about them being converted to easy fill, but I don't remember if it was the top/bottom or maybe even both.

Apparently they have been on the market for a month or so. Metal tube, no wires. It's what sets them apart. Looking forward to 808 and cone versions.
So can it be completely dimantled to expose the coil for dry burning? I still can't get a solid answer on this. I'm looking for a "yes, I've done it. I could have kissed the coil." Bottom coil too.

 

[skelley]

I think Bad said they could be dismantled, but he couldn't show anyone how.
I'm waiting on one of these to die or become unvapable before I disassemble, but they keep going.
I've only had to dry burn 1 of them to get some Bacon juice out, yuk!
On average, they have been filled around 5 or so times each and are still going strong. I like how the juice doesn't get thick as with the CE2's and I find myself using them more & more.

Edit: When I dry burned, I just looked down the tube at the coil.
Now you really got me wanting to dismantle one....hmmm.

 

[Charlz]

The plastic ce3 were glued/sealed. I'm hoping the metal just slides over. Still, they seem to perform better. My past gripes with bottom coil clearos have been they leak, they have a little filler around the wick making a good dry burn difficult without burning the filler, and you really can't get in there to truly degunk the coil.
Sounds like the first two have been fixed which is enough to try them. Completely dismantling to get at the wick like a ce2 is being greedy but would be nice. A week on anything is good for most.

 

[skelley]

Ok, I am in the process of dismantling one.
The outer tube pulls off easily; the metal tube also pops right off exposing the base with coil.
The inner tube has a lip that that stops it from going on to far and leaves a nice hole for the wick, it also prevents it from smashing the wick.
Now the base with coil doesn't seem like it wants to punch out very easily for a re-coil job, but I haven't given up yet, just need a bigger hammer maybe....lol.

Edit: I used a dental tool and pulled the bottom connecting pin and rubber gasket/seal out. the only thing left in the base is a ceramic cup with 2 wires. One wire was on the outside of the seal and the other inside making contact with the pin.
I punched the cup from the base with a allen wrench, but the wires don't pull out of the cup easily, as a matter of fact they broke off in the cup, so I don't know if they are glued to the cup for a seal or not, going to dig more

 

[skelley]

It appears that the wires are glued to the cup, I tried soaking in Goof Off & then electrical cleaner...no go, but it may have needed a longer soak as it did loosen the glue somewhat. I was able to get the wires out of the cup using a dental tool to push the nubs through.
So is this thing rebuildable, I would say yes. I can completely disassemble in less than a min, but getting the wires out took a little more effort.

The wire was around 2-1/4" long and mic's in at .006.
It ohmed 2.8 before dismantle

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Great work skelley!

What is mic?

 

[Grantah]

so I think a few of you fellas got the CE2 Ultimates from My Vapor Store (skelley, grantah?)

are they identical to fluxomizers?

I have never been able to purchase any from GV, as they have always been sold out. I even put my name on the waiting list.
But I can say I have gotten two different versions from My Vapor Store. The first ones had the white silicon cup seal, and I did have a problem with one of the post comming out of the bottom on one of those. I recently bought 2 more boxes (2.4 ohms and 2.8 ohms) I couldn't tell u what they tested out at, I don't have a meter, but they were a different version. They all had the black cup seal, which came out pretty easy. I was able to get it out with my paper clip tool that I put a 90 deg bend on the end. I didnt have to take the tube off of any of them to get the cup seal out. No leaking problems with any of them yet either. A couple days ago I dismantled five of them to "degunk"
the coils, so far no leaking or problems with those, they work like new again.
G.

 

[Grantah]

Great work skelley!

What is mic?

Im going to say he's refereng to a micrometer.

 

[Grantah]

The last batch of CE2 Ultimate Clearomizers (Version 6) XL's I purchased came from esmokeronline, they had a tank I wanted to try so I added a pack with my order.
Deluxe Flux's are CE2 ultimate clearo's to me.

The bottom coil Phoenix that bad is vaping in the vid looks identical to the latest CE3's from MiT that I have been using.
I believe he said something about them being converted to easy fill, but I don't remember if it was the top/bottom or maybe even both.

My current rotation atm is 3-CE2's; 5-CE3's & 1-boge carto. I have to use a carto with my Dripeez watermelon juice as it will leak in anything else.

Edit: The CE3's I have been using are not smokymizers. They don't have a inner bung that needs removed to fill.

What's MiT and can I get some, I'm dieing to get some of these. And I'm the most impatient person ever, I hate waiting.

 

[skelley]

Im going to say he's refereng to a micrometer.

Yeppers, it's short for micrometer.

Grantah, I purchased my CE3's from Vapor Alley, I believe they sold out this weekend though.

I have been using these CE3's for about 2 weeks now and here are a few things I've noticed:

1) Filling: I have no issues with them leaking if I invert and shake the juice away from the wick/base. Vape inverted 2-3 hits to dry the wicks slightly then fill with the syringe (still inverted) leaving "at least" 1/8-3/16" air gap.

It may seem like a ritual, but I noticed that leaving the wicks wet & any juice hanging around the base gets pushed out. As the juice fills the tube, the air inside the tube will push out through the wicks and take the juice with it. It may have something to do with pressure or some type of vacuum effect, but you will have a mess.
I've also tried to remove the top seal and filling it like a CE2, again the pressure/vacuum effect will have juice running everywhere.

2) The Vape: I call it a 'clean' vape as it is a dryer and a slightly cooler vape compared to the CE2's.

I haven't gotten any juice in my mouth and that's a big plus in my book.
Out of 8 clearos, I had 1 that was giving me what I call 'wick nose'. It was producing good vapor, but I could tell that the wick was getting hot causing my nasal area to act up as if I was sniffing lemon juice. (It's the best way I can describe it...lol)
When I dismantled the CE3, I noticed that one side of the wick was significantly shorter and it was barely sticking out. I believe this was the cause. I thought about pulling it to see if it would help, but I continued with the disassembly instead.

3) Taste: The juice is spot on, much like using a atomizer with a long drip tip. Again, it's not as moist as with the CE2's, but the flavor is definitely there and you don't get juice in your mouth either. Also the juice doesn't get thick/dark as you vape like the CE2's, therefore the taste seems consistent throughout.

4) Voltage: It might be that these are still fairly new, but they seem to be more sensitive to voltage adjustments compared to the CE2's. I can adjust the volts in .1 increments and taste the difference within 1-2 hits. Time will surely be the tell all here.

5) Draw: The draw is 'very' airy to me, almost to airy. I tried one on my KGO with the large bore cone in a attempt to stiffen it. Well, it did, but it also started gurgling. Since these devices seem to work with pressure/vacuum, attempting to adjust the draw may also affect performance. (I don't like gurgling and vapor production seemed to decrease also.)
Slow long drags seem to be in order for this device.

They also need a break in period, 1-2 fillings before they start to perform seemed to be standard.

I haven't found them in 808 threading yet, so I've been using them with my 510 devices for now.

Ok, now for the disclaimer....lol.
YMMV, but I say they are worth a try. Nothing ventured, nothing gained

Edit: You also get to watch a little bubble action as you vape and will develope a habit with shaking them. I'm not sure if it's to watch more bubbles or to insure it doesn't vapor lock on you, but I can't stop.