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Actually talking to members from there vaping is not very popular.
Many of the first " hardcore" ideas and devices are more from the eastern europe area. Like genesis, some of the first were from the germany area, van from croatia pk in romania.
the original tank atty is from GG in greece
Kayfun style invented in russia.
We are pretty much responsible for the first vv, vw
Chinas claim to fame Is only the cig a like and then the ego.and clearo.
And the first ejuice which still sells millions. And the vast majority of the vaping hardware market today. I do not think I use any non China made hardware at all. And I think the same is true with the majority of vapers in the world.
Ohh wait my Kanthal wire and my cotton are US made.
I vape for flavor. That and the nicotine of course, but haven't smoked since Feb of 2014, started at 24 nic and now down to 3 or 6 depending. Some of those flavor builds do have pretty decenct clouds though.
That said, I recently went with a friend to a cloud competition at a local vape store. The only reason I honestly went was because all who entered got a free bottle of juice. Somehow I actually won 3rd??? Long story there, I think more luck than anything.
I enjoy vaping, it's relaxing, enjoyable, and keeps me from smoking. And blowing huge clouds from time to time is fun too. I'm not sure if it's everwhere, or just around here, but this is my biggest complaint: Most of the vape stores around here (there's about 7 or so, plenty) are staffed with young kids and most of them seem ONLY interested in big clouds and sub ohm stuff. I was in one the other day and the two kids behind the counter were talking about the owner and how he doesn't drip and only uses a tank and how they thought it was ridiculous.
There is a huge market available. I thank God for the day I walked into the first vape store I came to and actually had an awesome owner listen to me and recommend a device. Sure, I've grown into a lot more devices since then and vape a lot differently, but I wouldn't have gotten here without starting there. I think a lot of shops need to change the mentality of the help to understand not everyone vapes the way that they do. My opinion is this is where the "bashing" comes in. To be fair, I haven't really dealt with any "bashing" of cloud chasers.
We're all vapers, tooters, cloud chasers, stealth or what have you. Whatever you like, I'm happy with wether it's a hobby or something that got you off of smoking. We're not all going to vape the same way, but who cares.
Yes, there are a few people who give it a bad name. The guys going down to the mall for kicks to see how big of clouds they can blow, etc.
We've got a lot of government issues and fda stuff breathing down our necks constantly, no need to give ourselves a bad name. Even if other don't understand it, we can still be courteous and respectful. I do vape in my own home, used to go outside to smoke. But in public, I vape outdoors, away from others, just like smokers. Why? Courtesy.
Anyway, I think I rambled a lot, but hopefully made a point or two as well.
That said, I recently went with a friend to a cloud competition at a local vape store. The only reason I honestly went was because all who entered got a free bottle of juice. Somehow I actually won 3rd??? Long story there, I think more luck than anything.
I enjoy vaping, it's relaxing, enjoyable, and keeps me from smoking. And blowing huge clouds from time to time is fun too. I'm not sure if it's everwhere, or just around here, but this is my biggest complaint: Most of the vape stores around here (there's about 7 or so, plenty) are staffed with young kids and most of them seem ONLY interested in big clouds and sub ohm stuff. I was in one the other day and the two kids behind the counter were talking about the owner and how he doesn't drip and only uses a tank and how they thought it was ridiculous.
There is a huge market available. I thank God for the day I walked into the first vape store I came to and actually had an awesome owner listen to me and recommend a device. Sure, I've grown into a lot more devices since then and vape a lot differently, but I wouldn't have gotten here without starting there. I think a lot of shops need to change the mentality of the help to understand not everyone vapes the way that they do. My opinion is this is where the "bashing" comes in. To be fair, I haven't really dealt with any "bashing" of cloud chasers.
We're all vapers, tooters, cloud chasers, stealth or what have you. Whatever you like, I'm happy with wether it's a hobby or something that got you off of smoking. We're not all going to vape the same way, but who cares.
Yes, there are a few people who give it a bad name. The guys going down to the mall for kicks to see how big of clouds they can blow, etc.
We've got a lot of government issues and fda stuff breathing down our necks constantly, no need to give ourselves a bad name. Even if other don't understand it, we can still be courteous and respectful. I do vape in my own home, used to go outside to smoke. But in public, I vape outdoors, away from others, just like smokers. Why? Courtesy.
Anyway, I think I rambled a lot, but hopefully made a point or two as well.
Both of the mods I've been using today were made in Seattle, the tanks in Ogden, and the juice in my bathroom!
Yes but you are in the minority. I also make all my own juice as well. I have bad issues with artificial ingredients in all the manufactured juice I have tried except for one tobacco flavor.
Thats only because then we get into the clone vs authentic argument. But I have mods from greece, france, romania. Germany
I have attys made in germany, tialand, greece..
Its funny, some of the best selling boxes, even from china have an american chip in them
China may have stolen them but WE invented VV, WE invented DNA, the carto tank was invented right here.
they didnt have the sx until they hacked the dna.
If people choose to support chinese theft that's fine, I have clones too.so I dont judge.
But if china had to actually respect IP rights fasttech would be nothing but clearos. And if the rest of the world wasnt busy creating devices that actually work and china can steal, you would still be puffin on a vivi nova.
I have attys made in germany, tialand, greece..
Its funny, some of the best selling boxes, even from china have an american chip in them
China may have stolen them but WE invented VV, WE invented DNA, the carto tank was invented right here.
they didnt have the sx until they hacked the dna.
If people choose to support chinese theft that's fine, I have clones too.so I dont judge.
But if china had to actually respect IP rights fasttech would be nothing but clearos. And if the rest of the world wasnt busy creating devices that actually work and china can steal, you would still be puffin on a vivi nova.
You would be surprised by the number of folks in this **minority**.
You just don't see many posts from folks in this **minority** because there is nothing much to say when everything "just works".
I think the last time I posted about an equipment problem was when I bought my first Provari, and couldn't get my tanks to work on it. (no air flow)
I fixed that
The newer Provaris have the notches cut in the top lip.
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The whole idea is to use oak that had grown some white truffle on it.
Without the truffle it's just pretend.
He's got a few not so finer moments I've noticed.
What can I say?
He's human after all.
Tapatyped
Why? Cause he asked china to make something for the regular vapor once in a while Thats better then a freakin iclear?
I'll assume you're asking me, so...
His REO review was extremely short sighted and uninformed.
His nic test kit was full of fail including, but not limited to...
Using flavored juice
Using colored juice
Guessing at the nic concentration results from a lack of preparation
Not making suggestions on how to improve or speed up the process
Etc.
For just a couple examples.
Tapatyped
I dont really care to cloud chase but love blowing big clouds. I am glad we are seeing these sub ohm tanks coming out for people wanting to get into vaping. Starting to see many new vapors with something like a Kanger Sub Ohm and an Istick 50w. Speaking only for myself, I vaped on a Spinner and Evod, Vivi, Protank and did not find it satisfying enough. The coils would be shot out after 2-3 days and never produced enough vapor for me. I was a little intimidated and probably too lazy to get into RDAs and never had been into a B&M vape shop. This was several years ago and vaping in my area hadn't really taken off.
This past year I flew out to Vegas and left my vape stuff at home. I went to a vape shop and bought another spinner and mini nautilus tank. A few days later a took my first hit from an RDA on a Fuhatten clone that was a friends. Im glad I did because I was ready to start dipping again. The next day I gave away setup and bought a plume veil and Fuhatten clone. Much more satisfying vape for flavor and cloud production for me. Vaped on this same setup for 7 months and just yesterday received a Lemo2 and Sig 100watt box.
This past year I flew out to Vegas and left my vape stuff at home. I went to a vape shop and bought another spinner and mini nautilus tank. A few days later a took my first hit from an RDA on a Fuhatten clone that was a friends. Im glad I did because I was ready to start dipping again. The next day I gave away setup and bought a plume veil and Fuhatten clone. Much more satisfying vape for flavor and cloud production for me. Vaped on this same setup for 7 months and just yesterday received a Lemo2 and Sig 100watt box.
No just a blanket statement about him complaining about subohm gear taking over.
His tests for wicking, juices and stuff hold no relevancy for me. Being an engineer he does the usual over engineering things because he can. To the point it makes no sense compared to the real usage.
I watch him but I take his opinions lightly same with all of them many devices they love and I dont or I love and they dont etc.
His tests for wicking, juices and stuff hold no relevancy for me. Being an engineer he does the usual over engineering things because he can. To the point it makes no sense compared to the real usage.
I watch him but I take his opinions lightly same with all of them many devices they love and I dont or I love and they dont etc.
There are a lot in any minority as in me with not being able to handle most all produced ejuice. However how many Isticks have been sold vs Provari's worldwide? We cannot just look at our neighborhood in the world of vaping. I doubt that hardly any US manufactured ejuice is cold in China, India, etc. Not so many Provari's sold over there either. And yet the ego batteries sold likely number in the billions.You would be surprised by the number of folks in this **minority**.
You just don't see many posts from folks in this **minority** because there is nothing much to say when everything "just works".
I think the last time I posted about an equipment problem was when I bought my first Provari, and couldn't get my tanks to work on it. (no air flow)
I fixed that
The newer Provaris have the notches cut in the top lip.
Not saying that there is anything at all wrong with buying US made products I am all for it. However most US based companies have offshored their manufacturing. Provari is an exception vs the rule. And if I were to buy an upscale mod Provari is what I would get becuase of their ALL us production, Quality and they are perfect tootle mods.
Are we talking about Busardo? If so I like his reviews since he is one of the few who does not gush all over all the stuff he gets free to review. The Indoor guy almost never says anything bad about anything. And if it makes clouds the dramatic bearded guy loves it.
Busardo's reviews are easy to interpret. If it doesn't trip his smoke alarm, it's not worth buying. 
Yes, Phil.
He's probably my favorite reviewer. Definitely on the top as far as education, intelligence and the technology.
But i, as well as many other informed, intelligent vapers have greatly opposing opinions on much of what he reviews.
Once you know what you want, that's how it should be.
Find you. Be you. Do you.
Once you can do that, nobody should be able to tell you what works for you vice the occasional warning that somethings pure, hot garbage.
But if you're simply looking for a regulated mod to use with a carto tank, he's the guy who'll test the regulation and inform you of its short comings.
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