Cloupor 30W Box Mod OWNERS thread

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Yotdawglife

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got mine yesterday whooo hioo loving it.

just wanted to find out if any one is using the efest 3100 18650 imr in there cloupor dna 30? are these a good option?
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I'll let you know Saturday if mine arrives as the tracking shows it will. I would assume they will work depending on the amount of resistance one has on their atty. They are a 20A battery but know little else about them but do own 2 of them I've used in a vamo and lambo I also own. I've also used them in my Nemesis with a kick2 without any problems down to .7 ohms.
 

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Would it make you feel better if I had said a Boost Buck Converter?

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Oh wait, the DNA can't step down voltage, can it? Then it's less complex than that $20 chip.

LOL...... nice pics of a variable voltage chip....very different from the dna which is a power regulating chip....

From your picture: input: 12.5 volts at 2.35 amps...... output: 46.9 volts at .49 amps
and input: 12 volts at 1.63 amps..... output: 5.2 volts at 2.77 amps

And efficiency rating less than 80%

Nowhere close to the dna output from a 3.7 volt input.... or efficiency..
 
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got mine yesterday whooo hioo loving it.

just wanted to find out if any one is using the efest 3100 18650 imr in there cloupor dna 30? are these a good option?
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If you are referring to the purple 20A,yes they work perfectly. The full 20A will never be used... Best battery to use imo
 

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Would it make you feel better if I had said a Boost Buck Converter?

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Oh wait, the DNA can't step down voltage, can it? Then it's less complex than that $20 chip.

Just a boost circuit

LOL...... nice pics of a variable voltage chip....very different from the dna which is a power regulating chip....

Idk what the debate is about here. But it seems like it's the cost of the chip... Of course Evolv is going to charge more than the cost to produce it, that's how a business runs. Add the oled display and their once proprietary software... $50 is not over priced at all imo, it obviously isn't considering the apparent demand for it.
 

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Idk what the debate is about here. But it seems like it's the cost of the chip... Of course Evolv is going to charge more than the cost to produce it, that's how a business runs. Add the oled display and their once proprietary software... $50 is not over priced at all imo, it obviously isn't considering the apparent demand for it.

No debate really..... just pointing out that there is a difference between buck/boost variable voltage regulation and boost power regulation... apples to oranges.....

I added a bit to my previous post...
 

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So it seems out of the first batch 3-4 have failed causing some to down play the clone. Most of which came from wetvapes it seems... Although I doubt that matters much. At least 1 came from elev8. My unit from elev8 seems to be chugging along (knock on wood). Almost all the issues seem to be related to the 510 pin except one, which seems to be related to the display. Out of the hundreds of posters in the thread imo, not bad for a first run Chinese clone. Opinions? How is everyone else's doing?
 

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Does anyone have experience with charging this through a computer?

I'm using a macbook air and very hesitant to use it to charge the clone. It would so convenient to do so, but I need my computer for work so I'm not willing to risk it unless I feel very confident it's not going to brick my macbook.

Further to this, does anyone know if vaping it while charging it through the computer poses more risk of damaging the computer than simply charging it there?
 

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LOL...... nice pics of a variable voltage chip....very different from the dna which is a power regulating chip....

From your picture: input: 12.5 volts at 2.35 amps...... output: 46.9 volts at .49 amps
and input: 12 volts at 1.63 amps..... output: 5.2 volts at 2.77 amps

And efficiency rating less than 80%

Nowhere close to the dna output from a 3.7 volt input.... or efficiency..

And??????

Yes, it's a different chip designed for a different purpose, but that doesn't mean the DNA is any more complex or costly to manufacture.

The primary processor on the DNA board is a lpc1313fhn33 chip. Buying in bulk from NPX Semiconductor they cost about $1. The OLED display module is less than $3. The PCB itself is less than $1, and every other chip on it is over the counter and can be bought for pennies. Evolv doesn't even make them, the boards are produced in China.



Now this is probably going to shock you but..... Evolv LLC's address is

1741 W 47th St
Ashtabula, OH 44004-5423


Go look it up on Google Maps. It's a small shop that probably employes less than 20 people.
 
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Does anyone have experience with charging this through a computer?

I'm using a macbook air and very hesitant to use it to charge the clone. It would so convenient to do so, but I need my computer for work so I'm not willing to risk it unless I feel very confident it's not going to brick my macbook.

Further to this, does anyone know if vaping it while charging it through the computer poses more risk of damaging the computer than simply charging it there?

If the computer goes to sleep the USB ports also go to sleep. I personally wouldn't charge on the computer & definitely not Vape while charging on computer.


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And??????

Yes, it's a different chip designed for a different purpose, but that doesn't mean the DNA is any more complex or costly to manufacture.

The primary processor on the DNA board is a lpc1313fhn33 chip. Buying in bulk from NPX Semiconductor they cost about $1. The OLED display module is less than $3. The PCB itself is less than $1, and every other chip on it is over the counter and can be bought for pennies. Evolv doesn't even make them, the boards are produced in China.



Now this is probably going to shock you but..... Evolv LLC's address is

1741 W 47th St
Ashtabula, OH 44004-5423


Go look it up on Google Maps. It's a small shop that probably employes less than 20 people.

The chips are not made in China..... do some more research.... yes I know where they are made...same place that makes their dna12, dna 20, kick, and kick2........yep the address you quoted has been their address for years....

Kinda like my brother.... he has a large board mfg. company in the USA make his boards to his specifications.....the size of Evolvs building has nothing to do with it...he-he
 
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Of course Evolv is going to charge more than the cost to produce it, that's how a business runs. Add the oled display and their once proprietary software... $50 is not over priced at all imo, it obviously isn't considering the apparent demand

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

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Production cost is IRRELEVANT to perceived market value IF consumers feel the product is of high quality.

And realistically why should it matter?
What if it were the other way around?
What if Ferrari put every brand new car they have in dealerships on sale for 5 grand?
Would you show up insisting to pay more because it cost more to produce?
Would you tell others not to buy it because Ferrari is loosing money on each unit?

And if you really want to see a discrepancy in production cost vs market value look at "high end mech mods"
 
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