Co-Op Interest for L-Rider Lavatubes for $30 each unit!!!

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tmcase

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Do you have any proof anything has been done except talk? DO you know for a fact it is 20.00?? no you don't, there are no documents posted no MOQ's and no OTHER companies listed that make this VV mod or one better. As for effort, ha, I can say all the things shek has and have done nothing but watch tv while making up crap. Proof is in the pudding as they say pics or it didn't happen.

On another note what pisses me off about this whole random pick crap is the co-op is NOT even open yet. When a co op opens people post what they want, how many, and when the limit is reached it is closed. PERIOD! You don't get in on it then you wait and hope there is another one. There has been alot of interest in this and it to say that random people are going to get one even after they have been following it for months is WRONG.

PS there is a new VV Tube mod With an OLED screen in a kit with batts. Seek and you shall find.

Would you please just give it a rest? If you don't like what you're reading then opt out.
 

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Would you please just give it a rest? If you don't like what you're reading then opt out.

Tm being you asked nicely and have several chats with you before, I will. I am done posting on this thread(except for 1 last time). If The coop does go through I will publicly apologize to shek any anyone who I may have offended.

I am a hot head at times and also sometimes too caring, and am worried that alot of folks would get burned with this. Do I know they will NO I don't and maybe I was a little rough about expressing myself.

So that being said Good luck to you all, Shek good luck to you as well (and maybe you will think twice about another co-op) and like I said if this does happen I will make a personal public post in the loudest fashioned that I can.
 

HazedMojo

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The first coop will not be very large. I'll either be serving under 100 people for JUST the LT devise or less than 50 people for the LT with batteries.

I haven't made my final decision yet, but I'm leaning towards holding a completely separate battery coop for many different reasons. One of which, is the suppliers that I've negotiated wholesale prices are willing to accept Paypal as long as WE cover for the 4% international payment fees.

But before I can open a secondary coop, the LT coop MUST be completed successfully.

There also may (or may not) be a limit on each member's order for the first LT coop....also haven't made my final decision for this either yet.

I'm doing everything that I can possibly do to make sure that your money is as safe as possible, that you'll receive the product as expected and that this transaction will be completed successfully.

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I know I haven't been very vocal since participating in this interest finding co-op, but I felt like sharing my thoughts. Believe me when I say I am NOT trying to kiss ... to try to get in the first group! With that said, I just want to say that reading all the posts, day after day, has been truly educational. I would have never guessed running a co-op involved so much negotiating and work! The information regarding the batteries was truly informative. I learned more about batteries reading these posts then from any primer or newbie thread. Even if I don't make it in, the stuff I learned from this thread was reward enough. No worries if I don't make it! I'll catch you later on the next try. That is if you decide to host another one Shek. With all that said, for the record, I am still in and thank you so much for the opportunity to take part in something grand. I look forward to being a part, (and maybe hosting one myself), of many co-ops!

~James
 

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Couple things here...

1) I completely approve the small-ish initial batch, as long as they're still willing to sell the small batch for the same price. It's always scary sending thousands of dollars of unsecured funds to China, and the smaller the better for the first time.

2) I completely approve the lottery. Granted, I wasn't even close to one of the first 100, so it may possibly benefit me. Even so, this isn't actually a co-op thread. It's a feeler. Now if Shek posted in an actual co-op thread saying "THE FIRST 100 GET ONE, COME AND GET IT!", it wouldn't be fair to back off on that. But that's not what happened.

3) Shek, assuming the first 50/100 go off without a hitch, how soon do you plan on running the second/third/fourth/etc ones? Will it be once shipments arrive on the first batch, or will you wait for a few weeks to make sure the units work correctly? I only ask because sometimes things take a month to arrive from China (and sometimes they take 2 days, which is ridiculous...).

4) How do you plan on handling people that get selected, but don't pay in a timely fashion? There will definitely be 10+ people in each batch that get selected, say they're going to pay, and still haven't gotten their money order two weeks later. How long are you going to wait for these delinquent payments?

Thanks again for doing this, and ignore all the negative comments. And if you don't know the answer to the questions above, no problem. Just figured I'd ask since I was wondering.
 
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KeysBum

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Couple things here...

1) I completely approve the small-ish initial batch, as long as they're still willing to sell the small batch for the same price. It's always scary sending thousands of dollars of unsecured funds to China, and the smaller the better for the first time.

2) I completely approve the lottery. Granted, I wasn't even close to one of the first 100, so it may possibly benefit me. Even so, this isn't actually a co-op thread. It's a feeler. Now if Shek posted in an actual co-op thread saying "THE FIRST 100 GET ONE, COME AND GET IT!", it wouldn't be fair to back off on that. But that's not what happened.

3) Shek, assuming the first 50/100 go off without a hitch, how soon do you plan on running the second/third/fourth/etc ones? Will it be once shipments arrive on the first batch, or will you wait for a few weeks to make sure the units work correctly? I only ask because sometimes things take a month to arrive from China (and sometimes they take 2 days, which is ridiculous...).

4) How do you plan on handling people that get selected, but don't pay in a timely fashion? There will definitely be 10+ people in each batch that get selected, say they're going to pay, and still haven't gotten their money order two weeks later. How long are you going to wait for these delinquent payments?

Thanks again for doing this, and ignore all the negative comments. And if you don't know the answer to the questions above, no problem. Just figured I'd ask since I was wondering.

I thought " the first 100 to post their interest will be considered first. " was very clear. "will be" not maybe.
 

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heh, some people act like they already gave money and got bupkiss... such a sense of entitlement. It's not like you are wating in line for a movie/concert in the rain. It's more kinda like a lottery, if you get lucky, you get lucky otherwise you lose nothing, but you pay for the ticket after winning. heh. The real prize is when your LT actually shows up on your doorstep, fully functioning and you take that first perfect vape.

Count me in Shek, and thanks for all your effort regardless.
 

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I thought " the first 100 to post their interest will be considered first. " was very clear. "will be" not maybe.

Ya know what Keys, if you don't want to be part of this, then opt out.

And if I didn't make it clear enough for you, allow me to say it again.

I'M THE FIRST POSTER AND I'M IN THE DRAWING!!

And I'm the organizer for Pete's sake, so if you can't handle that arrangement and don't feel it's fair, then there's no reason for you to continue your rant....is there?

And I'm certainly not going to apologize to you (or anyone else for that matter) for offering a free service to everyone in the ECF community to get in on an LT at cost.

So I guess that all I have to say at this point is.....you know what to do Sonic, thanks man! :)
 

Shekinahsgroom

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Couple things here...

1) I completely approve the small-ish initial batch, as long as they're still willing to sell the small batch for the same price. It's always scary sending thousands of dollars of unsecured funds to China, and the smaller the better for the first time.

2) I completely approve the lottery. Granted, I wasn't even close to one of the first 100, so it may possibly benefit me. Even so, this isn't actually a co-op thread. It's a feeler. Now if Shek posted in an actual co-op thread saying "THE FIRST 100 GET ONE, COME AND GET IT!", it wouldn't be fair to back off on that. But that's not what happened.

3) Shek, assuming the first 50/100 go off without a hitch, how soon do you plan on running the second/third/fourth/etc ones? Will it be once shipments arrive on the first batch, or will you wait for a few weeks to make sure the units work correctly? I only ask because sometimes things take a month to arrive from China (and sometimes they take 2 days, which is ridiculous...).

4) How do you plan on handling people that get selected, but don't pay in a timely fashion? There will definitely be 10+ people in each batch that get selected, say they're going to pay, and still haven't gotten their money order two weeks later. How long are you going to wait for these delinquent payments?

Thanks again for doing this, and ignore all the negative comments. And if you don't know the answer to the questions above, no problem. Just figured I'd ask since I was wondering.

1. The unit price of the LT doesn't change, it's still $20 for just the Lavatube. But the larger the order, the smaller your percentage of additional costs like freight, T/T fees and my expenses. And I don't have any control over the Postal Service frequent rate increases, so you may or may not pay more there?

2. Exactly.

3. There's no way for me to even begin to guess as I'm at the mercy of ECF approval. So all that I can say at this point is I'll do my best to make your lives as painless and worry free as possible. :)

4. There'll be a time limit for remitting payment, just to be fair to everyone else.

5. The following is NOT directed at you, mcl5000:

Pretty hard to ignore negative comments when there's so many jerks in here that just don't know a good thing when they see it and complain about receiving a free service with zero upfront investment, other than a little patience!

And I'm not in here to kiss anyone's ... and I don't expect you to kiss mine either....but I DO expect some freakin' courtesy!!

So if you've run out of your meds and are gonna have a melt down, LEAVE! Cuz I'm not your pharmacist and I don't appreciate being slapped in the face and accused of being a liar, or a cheat, or some other form of slime....

Cuz the way I see it is exactly the same way so many other intelligent people in here have already pointed out!

This community of respectful and appreciative people are FAR BETTER OFF without you....

So don't let the Sonic speed of sound door smack you in the back of the head on your way OUT!

Cuz you've clearly lost your marbles already and your interest will just be ERASED from his spreadsheet, with or without notice!
 
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