crippledbazooka's M601/602 Thread (questions, issues, knowledge)

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Catdaddy

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I haven't had one go out yet. Have you tried using a can of dust remover to blast the inside of it out? The one time that one seemed to stop working I ran it under warm water and blew it out holding the straw of the dust remover against the back side of it. I know it is impatience that causes some or most of the juice in mouth, but this never seems to happen with 510's. Removing the inner cart is messy and time consuming even more so to remove the poly. Trying to fill the carts without removing the inner cart is definitely the reason for most of my nic juice drinking (although some flavors aren't too bad that way lol).
 

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I haven't had one go out yet. Have you tried using a can of dust remover to blast the inside of it out? The one time that one seemed to stop working I ran it under warm water and blew it out holding the straw of the dust remover against the back side of it.

I would use a ballon i filled with air against that opening (no chemicals). I belive my atties are covered in carbon from vaped juice. I take 100+ hits an hour. And that is why they stoped working. The mystery (black gunk) on my atty threads is actually burnt carbonized juice.

I know it is impatience that causes some or most of the juice in mouth, but this never seems to happen with 510's. Removing the inner cart is messy and time consuming even more so to remove the poly.

get prestuffed nylon PTB carts from elec-cigz

Trying to fill the carts without removing the inner cart is definitely the reason for most of my nic juice drinking (although some flavors aren't too bad that way lol).

i can relate, if i want the ptb out its a 2 tweezer operation. but i usually just top up the carts w/ 6 drops. all u need is a paperclip to do that.
 

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I'm a mothereffing modder now !

I have a m601 PCC, I took the foam upper out and stuck an OMG!?! M602 batt in there, it doesn't screw in as easy as a M601 but it does screw in and it does charge. This is soo coo cause i h8 the 601 batt, but now I need to buy another 602 batt, anyone wanna trade?

Also, the heat-n-kleen came in so we will see if that ressurects dead atties, but I still need to get balloons to replace the compressed air.
 

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My atty's are both two hole devices. One was shipped inside the kit from smoore, the other was a spare I ordered at the same time from absolutelyecigs.com. Both had almost impossibly stiff draw on them, so I drilled out one of the holes to allow more airflow. Still both very stiff, but now at least workable. Even though they cost more, I may have to try electronic-cigz.com... after my most recent order from AEC gets here, that is. Hopefully my recent AEC order has 4 hole atty's.
 

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inicapem:

absolutelyecigs.com is Smoore's retail channel. Smoore is the manufacturer of the 601 / 602 PV's. They have good prices, but shipping from china is not particularly fast or cheap (your main complaint about electronic-cigz.com). My experiences with them have been good, so far. I just hope they make a 602 compatible PCC soon. Very soon.
 

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all atomizers i have received from electronic-cigz are 4 hole. They also specify on their site that they are 4 hole. i believe the difference is an easier pull.

On another topic, Smoore (absolutely e cigz) does not seem to sell the M601 which i find odd since they manufacture them. I enjoy both the 601 & 602 although for me i find the 601 to have less "glitches".
 

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I contacted both vendors about 4 hole atties. (vendors, I apologize if you didn't want personal emails posted to the public, I'm doing it to help inform people about your products so they understand what they are getting when they order).

Basically 4 hole atties are a myth. I and F must be misunderstanding as the battery has 4 vents but the atty itself only has 2 air holes.

What I said to abcig:

yes, on all the attys I've purchased from you they have had 2 holes above the battery connection threads. There has been talk on ecig forums about some people getting 2 hole attys from you and others getting 4. was the 2 hole design an earlier design and has since been upgraded or were the 2 hole design atties a defective batch? I would like to make another large atty purchase but I need to be sure they will be 4 holed. would you be able to send a picture showing the 4 holes? areyou counting the hole under the bridge and the one at the bottome of the battery connection as the other 2 holes? thanks.

On the forums people are saying that they are able to get 4 hole M602 atomizers from your site. All the ones I've purchased in the past have been 2 hole. has the design been upgraded? Am I able to purchase 4 hole M602 atties from your site? thanks

What abcig had to say:
The definition of holes on our atomiser has been based on the M40x series.

When you screw the atomiser and battery together, you will be able to see 4 holes around the gold band. This has been how we define atomiser holes on the M40x series so far. Since the threads of the M602 is reversed from those of the M40x, we are unable to create the holes on the atomiser of the M602 and therefore, it is done on the M602 battery. Nevertheless, when you screw in the atomiser and battery of the M602 together, you will be able to still see 4 holes surrounding the gold band. This creates the same 4 hole performance.

We have misunderstood your meaning and after further understanding, we realise that the 2 holes you mean are those on the atomiser threads. Please be assured that all our M602 (genuine) atomisers are the same design and there has been no upgrades so far.

What I said to elec-cigz:
there has been some talk on ECF about 4 hole atomizers for the M601/602. All the atomizers I've received from you have been 2 hole. I would like to place an order for 6 4-holed atty's.
Sean,
Both the 601 and 602 batts have the same amount of vent holes. The 601 atomizer on your site is advertised as having for holes:

M601/2 Ultra Atomizer Specifications::

*9.2mm diameter

*4-hole Atomizer design


Is it possible that the atties have been redesigned and you have some 2 hole and some 4 hole atties?

Here is the thread on ECF concerning the 4 holes:


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4 hole atties
Interesting that you guys are getting a stiff draw. I am experiencing the opposite - a VERY easy draw. Where are you getting your atomizers from? I get mine from electronic-cigz which are 4 hole atties. Also haven't lost one yet - knock on wood.

Mine is also 4 holes and no stiff draw at all. My atties comes from absolutelyecigs.com

all atomizers i have received from electronic-cigz are 4 hole. They also specify on their site that they are 4 hole. i believe the difference is an easier pull.


What elec-cigz had to say:

didn't realize that we had the wrong specs.
There is absolutely only one M601 Atty.. no different versions... no knock-offs
sorry for the confusion.


So there you go, case closed, props to Sean for being so direct and not beating around the bush. For those of you who somehow do have a M602 atty with 4 holes, are you sure its not an M4xx? Can you please post a pic of your rare bigfootesq atty?
 

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Heat n kleen does NOT resurrect dead atties on the M601/602 so I saved ya'll the $29 bux it cost to get it.

I found that if I blow out the attys once a day or once every other they last longer:) They went from lasting 2-3 days to 4-4.5 days for me. On the atty I've been using for this technique I've had it going for 4 days but only the center of the coil gets red now as the whole thing used to. *Edit- if you blow on the coil the whole thing will heat up red.

Also, a note about PGA. I have nhaler lung juice which has PGA as a major ingrediant, I have an atty devoted to that juice only and that atty has been fine and fires up good for atleast 10 days now.
 
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