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Shaitaan

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I can't wait to hear him cry when PayPal/Ebay finally gets around to freezing his account and denying him service....they may have not done it yet, but it will happen sooner or later... it's kinda hard to keep up with the 40k plus postings in Ebay...but then separating the US vs 'other' country's sales/buyers is the thing there...
 

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One thing we zenfidels have always been known for -- our detesting of the flippers and speculators, it really pisses us and our leader off and has gotten us into trouble a few times here at this forum -- but you would know that if you did an iota of research, you selfish opportunist, go sell some food at triple the price in a storm-damaged area, vulture..........damn I wish I could use the VF emoticons on here!!! :D
 

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C'mon Burton there are a lot of people that wait, or try really hard to get a zenesis APV to better their health and quality of life, it's not right for you or anyone to take an opportunity, (at a reasonable price, out of the hands of someone who works really hard for their money, to enjoy a finely built and esthetically pleasing product), just to make a profit.

Maybe a marketing or a career as a promoter is in your future, not a flipper.
 

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You guys know what is really funny, you are all so mad that I sold these mods at a higher price than retail but the people who actually purchased the mods off me are happy with their purchase. Some guys dont have the time to sit on the computer and wait for these things to pop up and dont mind shelling out an extra couple bucks.

The funny thing is you are acting as a supplier while posting as a user. But, I suppose you have some BS justification for that too. Some people just have no moral compass...
 

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I can't wait to hear him cry when PayPal/Ebay finally gets around to freezing his account and denying him service....they may have not done it yet, but it will happen sooner or later... it's kinda hard to keep up with the 40k plus postings in Ebay...but then separating the US vs 'other' country's sales/buyers is the thing there...

It would be discrimination if that were to happen! Discriminating because he sells vaping products! Duh! That's illegal :lol:
 

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My only real hope is that you wanted this one to actually vape for yourself ........

Hey maybe you can contact your flipurchasers and buy one back for "just a few more dollars".

Wouldn't that be the best justice ever, sold em both thinking, that was easy I can get more, which sadly he was almost able to do, and bam. Now you might know what it feels like for the people whose spots were taken and can't get one, like me for example.
 

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Again as I said earlier, what I decide to do with my mods is my business and what you do with your mods is yours. I waited on the page like every other customer did and purchased my item and they cancelled it for no valid reason. They have no reason to refuse me service as I did not break any rules.
Exactly. You do have the right to do whatever you want with the devices you own. ENS also has that same right with the mods they currently own as well (choosing who they sell to). The only way it would be illegal for them not to sell would be if something like this was said. "Hey white man, we don't sell to your kind." or "Hey homo, we don't like gay people here, so get out."

Something like "Hey, you've already bought two of these and re-sold them at a much higher price than you paid, so we're not giving you anymore" is perfectly fine.
 

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Poor, poor, Flipper. You're barking up the wrong tree expecting any pity from this community. I'm sure your customers are very satisfied with the devices, but that has nothing to do with you. You didn't create that device or make it available to the public. That was House of Hybrids, and ENS. What you did was deny access to retail pricing to 2 people and essentially extort money (almost $500 for a $279 PV and over $700 for a $320 PV). How did you customers feel about paying that kind of money? You're on here posting as if you were merely a customer that was refused service. You're not. You're a scalper, and no better than those companies that buy out Ticketmaster leaving true fans that want to attend those events having to pay 2-3 times as much for the pleasure of a seat. Kudos to ENS and Mike for preventing you from basically raping our wallets.
 
Please show me where its valid to refuse service for being a "known flipper"

The right to refuse service to anyone doesn't have to explain what its for. It their right and they have a choice. Go cry somewhere else , you won't get any sympathy here. You are trying to make money, that's it. Go get a real job :)
 

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So continuation over at reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_.../no_matter_the_circumstance_this_behavior_is/

ENS, and Zen are being accused of releasing the personal information of the flipper.

It might not be a bad idea to address the issue before this gets out of control and people can get the story from the horses mouth so to speak.

I know ECF isn't reddit, and vice versa, but they are probably the two largest communities on the internet for vaping, and this is spilling on both sites.
 

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ENS gave out my name which i used "securely" to purchase my devices on their website and then ZEN decided to post my real name and my wifes real name to get people to "flood my inbox with love notes" and "chat him up in public"

good move zen and ENS, stay classy

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Zen~

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ENS gave out my name

Actually, they didn't... Somebody you know personally gave me your name... I DID however confirm it before posting it.

I didn't want to accuse the wrong person.

Why is it such a big deal to have your name known? You know MY name... You know JASONS name... most people on facebook post under real names.... Why can't the world know YOUR name? whats the big mystery? Are you ashamed of what you did?
 
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It's funny to hear someone who has demonstrated such low class with your insane price gouging, whine about getting called out for said activities.

When you went back to the well that third time, then again with another name, you knew what you were doing, all that mattered was the almighty dollar. Didn't care that you were throwing someone else's name under the bus.

It could have been worse, let it go, maybe it will die down and you can move on. This is how life works, a problem is recognized, it is made clear that the activity is unwanted, if the activity is continued, people get made example of. Period.

It's not like you were accused of doing something you didn't do, you weren't slandered man, you wanna play the flipper game you gotta pay the consequences.
 

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Actually, they didn't... Somebody you know personally gave me your name... I DID however confirm it before posting it.


total BS, nobody i know personally even knows what vaping is, Nevermind knowing who you are. I don't understand who you think you are to try to get people to basically harass me. You make ecig mods your not gods gift bro.

you didn't want your mods being flipped? is that why in your video you state that you were going to engrave a dolphin in the bottom of the "limited editions"?

Instead of getting your "fans" to harass me maybe you should keep up with demand and your product will not be flipped. not my fault. its yours.

Why is it such a big deal to have your name known? You know MY name... You know JASONS name... most people on facebook post under real names.... Why can't the world know YOUR name? whats the big mystery? Are you ashamed of what you did?

You do not think giving out my name to a 3rd party is illegal? the names that are on my credit cards? The name i used to purchase YOUR products? it says on HOH private policy that you do not do that.
 
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You make ecig mods your not gods gift bro.
He is a helluva of good man though.



You do not think giving out my name to a 3rd party is illegal? the names that are on my credit cards? The name i used to purchase YOUR products? it says on HOH private policy that you do not do that.

Wait, what? You really want to scold someone about doing something that's not legal? Scalping is illegal and truthfully, that's what you are doing. Being called a flipper isn't exactly correct terminology for what you're doing, you're a scalper.

And you do also realize that Paypal has a policy against buying or selling ecig or ecig related products, right?

What you are doing here is slinging mud trying to cover your dirt, plain and simple. Problem is, the mud is sticking to you. Have fun with that.
 
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