OK good just don't sub ohm or vape the kool-aid ...........
Diketones will destroy vaping before they destroys your lungs
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Nah Kool-aid is fruit flavored so you can vape the hell out of it . But go-gurt...definitely don't vape that it probably has all of the diketones.
let me be clear about one thing here guys. I want to be wrong as hell, seriously. Believe me, I don't get my rocks off by sitting here and slinging mud with a couple guys on ECF. Know what my day consists of? I go to work, I go home, I work out, bathe the kids, eat dinner, and I play BF4 and I VAPE.
I'd like to vape yummy custards and all sorts of that stuff with my mind at ease, at least more at lease than it is now with regard to diketones. I want a study to come out that says something like, "Yes, um, diketones are suspended in the vapor in a particular way so as to prevent them from accumulating in your airways, so VAPE ON".
That's the study I want to come out.
I'd like to vape yummy custards and all sorts of that stuff with my mind at ease, at least more at lease than it is now with regard to diketones. I want a study to come out that says something like, "Yes, um, diketones are suspended in the vapor in a particular way so as to prevent them from accumulating in your airways, so VAPE ON".
That's the study I want to come out.
Alright I'm done with OPs trolling it's getting super old. See ya next time I drive under a bridge OP!
You have a bright future with ANTZ. You have no facts for anything you have posted. You're attacking Nicoticket who posted their results, and if I were you I'd go GiantVapes.com | Giant eJuice Selection. Giant Savings. and start from A and go to Z writing every vendor and give them your safety speech. Let's all know how you make out.
I want a study to come out that says artificial strawberry, blueberry, banana, citrus, etc, is completely safe to vape and there are no health repercussions from doing so.
You seem to be only concerned with one thing, and perhaps I am realistic that none of this is good for me.
It's seems my concern is actually higher than yours, since you dissed my comment that "if you have any concern for your health, you will vape unflavored liquid" and you are actually alluding to the safety of "EVERYTHING ELSE" that hasn't been studied.
Go ahead and call it trolling. Call it whatever you want. That doesn't change the fact that diketones are linked to lung damage and those diketones are loaded in our juice.
There was one new vaper who came to this thread and asked about diketones. They were told about the dangers and directed to the diketones free juice thread. That makes this thread a winner and it makes me a winner for TRYING. I hope that vaper steers clear of nicoticket, five pawns, and all the others with diketones until they get their act together.
You are on this issue. If you disagree, explain how you see yourself as different to what you think ANTZ would be saying.
I strongly believe your position will be ignored in reality, even while we are nice enough to enter into a discussion about it here. People, including kids, will be vaping diketones for a long time to come. You are convinced they are / will be damaged. I'd be willing to wager on this. I'm guessing you're too scared to even do that.
I haven't seen anyone say in this thread that its safe. Many of us have stated there's no evidence (yet) that it isnt., or what the possible risk actually is.
I had a friend tell me Mountain Dew is poisonous and many people have died from drinking it. So I googled this while we were talking. Someone did get very I'll, but he also drank 9L (IIRC) in a short period of time. I pointed out to her you can die from drinking that much water in a short period of time as well.
I had a friend tell me Mountain Dew is poisonous and many people have died from drinking it. So I googled this while we were talking. Someone did get very I'll, but he also drank 9L (IIRC) in a short period of time. I pointed out to her you can die from drinking that much water in a short period of time as well.
The same friend posted multiple times pg is chemically the same as antifreeze. Now that she's a vaper she's overlooking that. But, she also said, "just because I'll vape it doesn't mean I'll eat it.". Lol!
I would suggest you don't praise Clark on his thread and put down his company on this thread.
So he told you he took your advise? You're a winner so you need a trophy.
That is the question I have. Do the high levels of diketones found in some ejuices increase our chances of the FDA screwing up everything?
You are absolutely right. I DIY and I use flavors with Diketones. My feeling is all or none- either vape unflavored or don't worry about it unless and until there is some evidence people are having problems.
When flavoring companies iike TFA come out with "V2" diketone free flavors, no one gets excited about what replaced the diketones. People really don't act rationally. They are sheeple and easily lead by propaganda.
I'm not suggesting there is anything wrong with the TFA V2 flavors, only that they cannot pass the same high bar held up to diketones. Actually nothing could get over that bar because the ANTZ crowd is demanding that a negative be proven here, and that is typically difficult to impossible.
I smoked 3 packs of red marlboro a day.. sometimes opend a fourth pack.. for 8 years.. and those years before that i smoked a pack or 2 on weekends.. theres nothing and i mean nothing that could be in a flavor of which i use 5% in my 10ml a day.. thats 0.5ml of flavor a day.. compared to 60-70 red marlboros.. no amount of diketones can compare to that destruction that i inhaled in me self while smoking.. And you can preach all that you want. Ita your choice what to vape..
You want someone to test liquid and tell you if its safe for you.. if your so wooried give your favorite vape on testing. And if it doesnt have diketones be happy.. if it does change your vape and have another one tested..
You want to feel safe.. you pay for it.. i dont want to feel safe andni dont want to pay more for my juice because the manufacturer had to test his juice for diketones, and his gona up his price to make up his loss.
Period.
And the third choice you have is go vape unflavored no niconite vg, because omg pg is artifical it might have something inside.. and gosh nicotine is also artificall..
And lastly. My apologies if someone found him self insulted or hurt by my post. That wasnt what i was after.
Thank you for your time in reading..
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You want someone to test liquid and tell you if its safe for you.. if your so wooried give your favorite vape on testing. And if it doesnt have diketones be happy.. if it does change your vape and have another one tested..
You want to feel safe.. you pay for it.. i dont want to feel safe andni dont want to pay more for my juice because the manufacturer had to test his juice for diketones, and his gona up his price to make up his loss.
Period.
And the third choice you have is go vape unflavored no niconite vg, because omg pg is artifical it might have something inside.. and gosh nicotine is also artificall..
And lastly. My apologies if someone found him self insulted or hurt by my post. That wasnt what i was after.
Thank you for your time in reading..
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I had no issue telling clark that I thought his juice was dangerous in his thread. Its a forum. I know this thread isn't secret. That's the opposite of what I want. I want everyone, including clark, to see it. You misrepresent what I say to paint me like I am two faced. I didn't know there were so many diketone deniers around.
No telling how the FDA will rule. If they do have an interest in DA/AP, some vendors will go out of business or have to re-formulate...
Yes. Thus the title of this thread. Although I'm not sure which will come first. Lung damage or the ban hammer.
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