% dissatisfied with ecigs

[BHedge]

You don't need the blue foam. Just make sure your polyfill is cut so it's not packed into the cart. Some of the carts come with way too much polyfill in them. All you need is enough for the fibers to hold the tension between the liquid. It works a lot better to cut it so with tweezers it slips in pretty easily....you aren't stuffing the entire space with polyfill. There's no chemicals in it to worry about washing out, it's cheap, and easy cleaned and replaceable.

Also, on the nicotine level...I smoked only 1/2 to 1 pack a day so I started with 6-11mg and found it too low. I tried the 24 and about blew my brain off. The 18 was a little too strong....hurt my throat, so I think the advertised levels are a little off. I think my level is around 14-16. At that level (I get it with mixing 11 and 18) I can put the thing down instead of constantly vaping. Sets your sites a little higher than you think you'd take then move down. I drip a drop of 11, a drop of 18...etc on my polyfill to achieve my goals.

 

[Annastasia]

I know maybe 3 people who have tried e-cigs only to later give them up and return to analogs. My main feeling about them is that they just aren't "gadgety" enough. For me, the main thing that helped me stick with vaping was the "this is so cool!" factor of a new technology, and honestly I sorta like fiddling with things. The people I know who have tried and failed got frustrated fast with trying to make everything work consistently, didn't like having to carry a kit around with them, etc.

When someone finally makes an e-cig that looks like an analog, works consistently, and requires no fiddling, I think many many more people will be able to stick with it.

 

[Haytoni]

I wish someone would do a poll to find out how many people have tried, and then given up on, e-cigs - and their reasons for giving up. Is it because of equipment issues, or is it lack of satisfaction from the process of vaping itself as opposed to smoking analogs? Do people feel analogs are "better" - if so, why? I'm wondering why some people move easily from analogs to ecigs and others cannot do so.

I have smoked cigs for over 60 years, just recently I have noticed a weird taste, and a burning in my mouth, did some research and found that now the cig makers are putting in a flame ......ant ---now wonder they taste like crap.
Along with the other carcin. in them, that put me over the top.

 

[BHedge]

Many cigs are now being made with rings around them that will extinguish the cigarette if they are being pulled below the ring (actively smoked). Another thing to control our lives. Another reason to switch!

 

[Haytoni]

I actually did start e-cig, quit, and came back. I smoked for 10 years, switched to vaping about 7 months ago, lasted about 1 month on vaping then switched back to analogs since a couple weeks ago. I switched because I hated the battery life on the pv I first purchased. I bought a usb passthrough 2 weeks after vaping and liked that a lot more. When that broke I got frustrated and went back to smoking. 2 weeks ago I decided to give it another try. Since I already had all the atomizers from my 901 kit I decided to go with the SD, since it was the one I wanted when I first started but couldn't afford the investment at the time. Hopefully this time I can make it.

You will like that SD......it's the ROlls of PV's.. Just keep feeding it, and it'll keep you happy.

 

[BardicDruid]

From what little I've seen, in my humble opinion, an analog has almost 4,000 chemicals. Now we all know the nicotine is addictive, but how many of the other chemicals are addictive also.

When I first started vaping it wasn't the nic I had withdrawal from, it was some other chemical or combination that my body wanted REALLY bad. But thanks to a Highland Scottish lineage (stubborn to the hilt) I toughed it out.

A lot of people are like my roommate, they think that vaping is exactly like smoking and it isn't. The only thing you get from both is the nic, your loosing almost 4,000 chemicals that your body has become accustomed too.

If your not ready or willing to put up with your body adjusting to the new delivery system, you'll fail and go back to analogs. For me it doesn't quite make the grade which is why I've switched to snus. But if it hadn't been for the e-cig I believe that I wouldn't have been able to get away from the analogs.

I firmly believe that if your not ready to give up the analogs, it ain't gonna happen.

 

[zrb0529]

I had a smoking everywhere I got from a mall after hearing about Blu online..I loved the SE and the fact that I could smoke inside without my wife dealing with it was a plus, as was the fact I could smoke basically anywhere I wanted if only after explaining what I was doing to concerned citizens...I only quit vaping after my SE broke, I got a replacement atty which broke and then the replacement battery finally stopped working - the only thing about it I didn't like was the battery issue where it would die in the middle of the day

now I own a joye 510 with a charging pack (the same thing a Blu comes with) and I love it. generally I fill up the two carts at the beginning of the day and drip a few drops directly on the atty and I am assured I will make it the whole day but I also bring along a bottle of eliquid just in case.

So far I have had no issues and it works out great. I think the problem is that smoking becomes a habit and really a ritual that becomes very hard to break so when its pull out the pack, pull out an analog, light it and smoke that may seem like a series of steps but its actually a deeply personal experience though smokers dont realize it.

what gets me is that you basically have to smoke an entire cigarette unless you hot dog it which isnt really a good idea but you can just take a few puffs of a pv and put it back in your pocket, so it's really way more convenient, its just a matter of getting out of one habit and into another

 

[Bacawind]

Having been vaping for 4 days, I can express some of our issues. I felt I had researched to the point it was time to make a purchase, dive in and see what this is all about. I bought, for my husband and myself, 510's. I wanted two different types, but I couldn't afford it. This way we can borrow parts off of each others set ups, as needed. Good thing I did.

The automatic disposable kit came with a dead battery. Took a while to figure out it wasn't just operator error. Today my first atty quit. I hope it's just dirty, but it was a sudden thing, I'm fearing the worst. Now I'm dealing with the nasty off a new atty. Just a few days after getting the nasty off the first atty.

In 4 days I've spend more time waiting for a battery to charge or vaping nasty stuff, than I have enjoying it. But, what I have had, I really enjoyed. So I'm still hopeful.

Batteries on the 510 don't last long enough. I thought three batteries for two of us would be a good starter set up, but with the one dead on arrival, we only have two. We got a pcc, a usb charger, an ac and a usb to dc charger. In hindsight, I should have put more of that money in batteries than chargers. Chargers don't do any good with nothing to charge. I placed an order yesterday for more batteries, attys, and passthroughs, but they will ship out today, and be here...whenever.

I've spent $300 on vaping in less than a week. I have enough chargers and juice to last us several months, it's the batteries and atties that worry me. I'm discouraged to say the least.

My husband and I really want to stop smoking, I like researching and studying, and my husband likes to tinker. We have motivation and interest, but we're about out of money.

It seems that everyone has several different pvs, and they have several attys, carts, batteries, for each set up. Then there is the flavors, nic levels, etc., that all have to be figured into what will satisfy the need, and there is more cost.

I'm tired from searching for answers to questions I don't know how to describe. I'm sick from the new atty, a headache probably from too strong of nicotine, and fighting the desire to light an analog. And I'm broke. I really enjoy vaping! It's just this is way too expensive and frustrating for the little bit of enjoyment. I hope things start to fall in place soon.

 

[DC2]

I'm tired from searching for answers to questions I don't know how to describe. I'm sick from the new atty, a headache probably from too strong of nicotine, and fighting the desire to light an analog. And I'm broke. I really enjoy vaping! It's just this is way too expensive and frustrating for the little bit of enjoyment. I hope things start to fall in place soon.

Sounds like you might spend just a little time asking some questions instead of researching.
We're all here to help!

 

[gcram399]

1. Cost:
It takes quite an initial investment just to get to the point that you can say that you have actually found the perfect system that you can live with on a daily basis. But by the time you reach that point and add up what it has cost to get there, you realize that you have have spent more than what analogs would have cost.

2. Experience:
Some fail to ever get to the same level of satisfaction that they get from smoking an analog.

3. Work involved:
As many mentioned here, there is a bit of maintainence required in vaping compared to analogs. You have to be commited to make it work for you.

4.Convenience:
Just about everything we use in vaping requires that the person has to order over the internet and that places your dependency in the arms of the very slow postal system. You can't just buy the needed supplies in a local store.

These are the 4 main reasons that I see that would make new vapors give up and go back to analogs.

The Solution:
Invent the perfect system that would be easy to maintain, reasonably cheap to purchase and use, available in every store and gas station and make it so that it actually simulates the act of smoking analogs without any of the nasty stuff.

Come up with that and you could make your million.

 

[wave42]

1. Cost:
It takes quite an initial investment just to get to the point that you can say that you have actually found the perfect system that you can live with on a daily basis. But by the time you reach that point and add up what it has cost to get there, you realize that you have have spent more than what analogs would have cost.

For me, cost is one of the reasons I started vaping.. along with being tired of hacking in the morning and smelling like an ashtray...

I figured with the latest increases, I would be paying about $1,000 per year in taxes alone. Even if I paid $1,000 a year in vaping expenses, it would still be cheaper than smoking analogs and the money would be going to the private sector, not the government. This is going to be way cheaper and I like the idea of having more control over where my money goes.

 

[Graves935]

I just got my first e-cig a few weeks ago and I'm still playing with it. I really like the flavor and the sensation of vaping but I must admit that I am getting more and more frustrated with the mechanics. I have a 510 and I can't seem to get the flow of juice right. I've tried a couple of mods such as the PTB and ZFM and nothing has worked. I really want something fairly reliable so I can quit my analogs completely but I can't seem to get it right.

I'm not giving up on it yet! I do see how someone could get impatient and toss vaping aside though.

i had the same problem with my 510. I gave up on cart mods and bought a few tiny dropper bottles. one full dropper bottle can get me through the day and i just throw 2 drops of juice onto the atty and vape away!

 

[Tuesday]

obama signed a bill to ban flavored cigs and cigars , saying the flavors were drawing in kids to smoking , menthol was not banned . back to the subject at hand , the only way i would go back to cigs is if i could not get the flavor i like . i have been burned on flavored carts just tasting like crap and not like the juice flavor with the same name . not giving up that easy though , i just got empty carts and fill them with bottled liquid i know is good . my regular shops are running out of that flavor , i have tried others to see if i would like them but no dice yet . i really only like tobacco flavors , but i am afraid to base an opinion off flavored carts due to some carts not tasting like they supposed to . i can say as well that vaping is a little odd / weird to me right now , but i like it more than smoking . i do like not feeling like crap from not smoking but still there is something i miss about smoking , i guess would be that cigs are easier to deal with , light and puff , can even hang cigs out my mouth which i really have not found an effective way to do that with an auto battery yet . it just seems to be a little work involved with vaping , but hell laziness does not get anyone anywhere . i am here to give vaping a good run , i have a little bit of money tied into it and i am not about wasting and i think that helps me stay hooked to it . i do have one pack of smoked stashed back in case of emergency , i have had them for 2 weeks now . i am here to give it a try and do my best with it ...

Obama signed a bill to ban flavored cigs!! How about all those flavored liquors like creme de menthe, orange, chocolate and even cinammon?? Kids are not at all interested in these

 

[Katattack]

As has been mentioned the majority of those who were dissatisfied likely aren't reading/posting here anymore. The problems I'm having are 1. cost finding what's right for me and 2. The inconvenience of having to buy everything online (which ties back into problem 1 actually). I love trying stuff out and gadgets but as a member of a family unit I cannot arbitrarily spend oodles of money on things that may just get shelved. I know when I do find my right PV and juice combo it will save us money but I can't make that expenditure all at once or even within a short window of time. This may mean it takes longer for me to get off analogs but it's the pace I have to go at. If I weren't determined to make a go of vaping and quitting analogs I'd probably just get frustrated and drop the vaping idea all together.

 

[jiff]

i might well have given up if i didn't find the library of information here. not knowing how to maximize your enjoyment can be frustrating with seemingly nowhere to turn for help.

And I'm sure we all realize there are A LOT of people who never discover ECF.

I'm willing to bet there have been a lot of people who bought an e-cig from the mall, didn't "get it", and then never realized what they were missing.

 

[mvc]

..."this is so cool!" factor of a new technology, and honestly I sorta like fiddling with things. ...

Totally agree on that - same here, just love opening the cartomizers, messing with them, refilling them... next thing - I have to break one batt (once it fails) and make my own mod, that will be FUN!!

I'm tired from searching for answers to questions I don't know how to describe. I'm sick from the new atty, a headache probably from too strong of nicotine, and fighting the desire to light an analog. And I'm broke. I really enjoy vaping! It's just this is way too expensive and frustrating for the little bit of enjoyment. I hope things start to fall in place soon.

Believe it or not - it will. I did spend quite a lot, but the fact that I started with a 2 piece cartomizer helped a lot. Too low nic level and ordered a few sample bottles of 18mg juice. Refilled all the used cartomizers I had left and now have 3-4 batteries with different flavors in my pocket and sometimes I puff once from all of them in 1 minute...