DIY Master Techniques - Flavor Add-on's (EM, VW, BW, MTS, ACV, ect)

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This is a great thread. I wish I found it sooner, and not so late in the evening. My mixes are a little bland also and I have been disappointed with them but still vaping them none the less. I added a little distilled water to a small batch I made earlier in the week and had hoped the H2O would spring the flavor to life but is hasn't done much at all. May be a little easier to vape but not as flavorful as I hoped.

The saline additive is an interesting thought. I looked at some local stores online and I was wondering if there is a concern using the contact or nasal saline solutions? There is a bunch of other additives in these I don't want to vape if they are an issue and I don't want to be my own guinea pig. In the mean time I will check out the local pharmacy for what they have on hand.

At the beginning of the thread there was posts about additives like Acetyl Pyrazine so I went looking for more info on this additive and found the blending kit at The Flavor Apprentice - Perfumers Apprentice - Tobacco Blending Kit. It lists all the additive plus some others that were in an early posting.
Molecules in set: Acetyl Pyrazine, Carvone, Cinnamic Aldehyde, Damascone Beta, Ethyl Acetate, Ethyl Maltol, Ethyl Vanillin, Lialool, Menthol, Menthyl Acetate, Methyl Cyclopentenolone, Syringol, Tabanon, Tetramethyl Pyrazine, Trimethyl Pyrazine, Vanillin.
It's a nice kit if you want to invest in the kit as a whole.
 

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I have some ejuices that seem rather dry to me.

Other than sweeteners, what might be added to counter dryness?

Alternatively, are some sweeteners better than others at overcoming dryness?

Typically, Marshmallow is a good sweetener to use to help overcome dryness. I also use a few drops of saline solution per 10 ml in my DIYs which also works well. The stuff I use is .9% Sterile Saline solution used for babies (Clenoz), but any pharmaceutical grade saline will work. At these low concentrations, you won't really taste the salt, but it will make many flavors "pop" - especially bakery-type flavors.

Most pharmacies will have injectable saline solution behind the counter. A small bottle will last forever...
 
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I have some ejuices that seem rather dry to me.

Other than sweeteners, what might be added to counter dryness?

Alternatively, are some sweeteners better than others at overcoming dryness?

Vape Wizard helps in that department a little. I sometimes use marshmallow and/or cream. It doesn't work perfect because you have to use so little to avoid the taste unless the taste is working in the recipe. To go the other direction I use acv and/or a nut flavor like almond or black walnut. Again not perfect because you have to use so little, especially the apple cider vinegar.
 

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Hope this helps. I found some Saline at Walgreens in the pharmicy area. It is the 0.9% sodium chloride as mentioned earlier in the thread. The price was $5.99 for a pressurized 7oz can but I think i can transfer the saline to a bottle for dripping and ditch the can.

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I'll make a small batch tonight and let you all know how it turns out for me. Totally got my fingers crossed on this. I like making my own juice and would really be happy if it was on par with the pros.
 

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Question for those using the .9% saline? Is there a consensus that one drop per 10 ml's being the right amount to make your flavors 'pop'? Has anyone experimented with more? Is there a ceiling?

I make almost exclusively 100% VG mixes, but some of my "clients" (LOL) still use carto's and I tend to use DW to thin it out for their use. Was considering using the .9% saline solution instead.
 

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Question for those using the .9% saline? Is there a consensus that one drop per 10 ml's being the right amount to make your flavors 'pop'? Has anyone experimented with more? Is there a ceiling?

I make almost exclusively 100% VG mixes, but some of my "clients" (LOL) still use carto's and I tend to use DW to thin it out for their use. Was considering using the .9% saline solution instead.

You can add as much as you like, but it only takes a drop or two/10ml to do the job. I think replacing the DW with saline would be overkill, and much more expensive.

JMHO...
 

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Are you using a 20 drpspm(1%) model ?
Yes.....but the size, or number of drops is not that important. At a .9% solution, you can barely taste the salt in the solution itself, and you can't taste the salt in the juice at all, even if you go overboard (within reason)....at least in my personal experience.

It's like baking - you really don't taste the salt in a pie crust or bakery item, but you will definitely notice if its left out!
 
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Yes.....but the size, or number of drops is not that important. At a .9% solution, you can barely taste the salt in the solution itself, and you can't taste the salt in the juice at all, even if you go overboard (within reason)....at least in my personal experience.

It's like baking - you really don't taste the salt in a pie crust or bakery item, but you will definitely notice if its left out!

Thanks, I just asked to have a % to use with a calculator.
 

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$5 per ltr is pretty cheap. is this the solution people use to clean contact lens? if this is just salt water, i wonder what the ratio of teaspoons table salt per ounce it is. seems like you could make it for pennies per pint.
It's actually very expensive.
People talking about "sterile" probably don't know that as soon as you put it in your mixing bottle it's not sterile anymore (or do you have your bottles sterilized before use?). You're not going to inject this stuff under your skin like a vet or doctor does.
Just take 9 grams of table salt (without iodine) and add 991 ml of distilled water to make 1 ltr of 0.9% Saline solution. The price of the bottle is higher than its contents (around $0.50 I guess).
I'm using 10% in all my liquids which translates to 0.09% salt.
 
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