OK, so what do you think happens with e-cig atomized partial saline solution?
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OK, so what do you think happens with e-cig atomized partial saline solution?
At ten percent I unmistakably taste salt, so there's definitely transfer in the vape. I know, I know, now you guys want me to lick my coils to see what's left. 
I'm not noticing any faster/increased gunking on coils.
And then here's a followup link to read later...
Time for the ECF chemists?
I'm not noticing any faster/increased gunking on coils.And then here's a followup link to read later...
Time for the ECF chemists?
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I'm interested in this for keeping my overall acidic level down. Baking Soda doesn't seem to quite mix fully with water...remains sort of suspended from what I've observed.
I'll be interested in preparation ratios (baking soda / water) and levels that go into ejuice.
From what I've read you make a 10% solution and add that at 1 - 5%. What has not been discussed is how do you check the PH level. I'm sure it's not like checking PH in a swimming pool
I haven't noticed much of a difference between saline and straight DW (@1-2%). It does help my higher VG mixes vapor production though.
When I bumped Saline up to 9% or so I mos def picked up a lil salt taste. It also appeared to be a slight "rust" colored action going on with my coil.?? Maybe I'm nuts
.....After messing around with different ratios of Saline, I tend to feel that just the straight Distilled Water does just fine at adding the moisture feel I was looking for.
However, I'm with Danny on the Sodium Bicarbonate used to adjust PH of my/our mixes. ...very interesting.
When I bumped Saline up to 9% or so I mos def picked up a lil salt taste. It also appeared to be a slight "rust" colored action going on with my coil.?? Maybe I'm nuts
.....After messing around with different ratios of Saline, I tend to feel that just the straight Distilled Water does just fine at adding the moisture feel I was looking for.
However, I'm with Danny on the Sodium Bicarbonate used to adjust PH of my/our mixes. ...very interesting.
Litmus strips do you happen to have a link to those? And what target PH do you shoot for with those?
From what I've read you make a 10% solution and add that at 1 - 5%. What has not been discussed is how do you check the PH level. I'm sure it's not like checking PH in a swimming pool
How does one get the Baking Soda to mix well with (distilled?) water?
The pH of Sodium Hydroxide is 14...high as it gets. Baking Soda has a pH of 8.3. Salt has a pH of 7, which is neutral.
Can something along the lines of litmus strip be used to check overall pH in the final mix?
Danny, I have it saved on my computer at home, I'll check soon as I can. I ordered some off of amazon as well as grabbed some from my local health food store.
As far as Ph level I have found that close to 7 "feels" smoother, although slightly higher is not so bad either. I tend to prefer a lil lower like 6.4 - 6.8.
I use the test strips as a "ballpark" kinda deal. They appear to help determine what works for me.
As far as Ph level I have found that close to 7 "feels" smoother, although slightly higher is not so bad either. I tend to prefer a lil lower like 6.4 - 6.8.
I use the test strips as a "ballpark" kinda deal. They appear to help determine what works for me.
Regarding some of the posts further back in this thread, keep in mind that it isn't just the salty taste we're going for with saline. Salt is an ingredient that interacts with the other flavors. A little snip I took from some web site (remember, they cannot post something on the web if it isn't true):
Particularly, adding salt to foods helps certain molecules in those foods more easily release into the air, thus helping the aroma of the food, which is important in our perception of taste. Salt also has been shown to help suppress the bitter taste. So adding a bit of salt wont just increase your salty taste perception, but will also decrease your bitter taste perception in any given food (which is why it is often sprinkled on grape fruit, for instance, before eating). Finally, adding salt to sweet or sour things, while not shown to suppress sweet or sour flavors as with bitter flavors, will help balance out the taste a bit by making the perceived flavor, for instance of sugary candies or lemons, less one dimensional.
Particularly, adding salt to foods helps certain molecules in those foods more easily release into the air, thus helping the aroma of the food, which is important in our perception of taste. Salt also has been shown to help suppress the bitter taste. So adding a bit of salt wont just increase your salty taste perception, but will also decrease your bitter taste perception in any given food (which is why it is often sprinkled on grape fruit, for instance, before eating). Finally, adding salt to sweet or sour things, while not shown to suppress sweet or sour flavors as with bitter flavors, will help balance out the taste a bit by making the perceived flavor, for instance of sugary candies or lemons, less one dimensional.
I work with a couple chemists. I'll ask for their input and report back.
1) You don't want to attempt to alter your personal "acidity level" by using vaping...in fact, see below if you want to try at all.
2) I'd think you'd want the vapor PH to be near neutral* so as to not damage lungs from either too low or too high PH.
Also, I'm in no way judging here since there's so much bunk on all sides, but I did run across this:
Acid/Alkaline Theory of Disease Is Nonsense
I do know, for example, that a little bit of apple cider vinegar on your FOOD (not vape) helps to level out blood sugar slightly...(not a replacement for other measures though). So I'm not saying that you can't check into it...but please, be careful of your lungs. Use caution.
*=disclaimer: IDK what proper PH for lungs is......"PH Balanced" skin products are 5.5 ish...but skin is acidic. IDK for lungs....7.4? You guys need to be careful when messing with PH.
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This isn't food. You're inhaling it....
I use salt in cooking for the reasons specified. The salt ions help "conduct flavor" on the tongue. But I'd use VERY LITTLE or none in vaping.
BTW....If vaping wasn't commonly inhaled...I probably wouldn't even worry about it. Maybe I shouldn't anyway. But just "be safe".
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I see Agave Nectar on the shelf in the store in a light and dark. Been temped to try some, anyone done this?
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The chemical in baking soda, Sodium Bicarbonate, is used in IV solutions to raise pH. It is an alkaline.
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