Have'nt tried it. I would think the water would dilute your flavors instead of enhancing them. But that's my
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A bit of water helps keep it moist, thin thick VG to aid wicking, and to round out some harshness.
I only use a little...like a few %...some use like 10%.
No salt though.
I should also mention....
This is not your digestive system we're talking about........it's your lungs. Messing with PH, either with acids or bases, can get a bit nasty.
Too low of a PH is just as bad as too high. And most of us don't have any PH meters. So be careful.....
Just say'n.
This is not your digestive system we're talking about........it's your lungs. Messing with PH, either with acids or bases, can get a bit nasty.
Too low of a PH is just as bad as too high. And most of us don't have any PH meters. So be careful.....
Just say'n.
OK. I just got some "salt taste". But it happened when my RDA "spit"...
So my guess is that if you're going for the residue on the drip tip, or getting some salt taste once in a while from coil spitting and making small drops into the air stream....it might work. But mostly....meh.
it won't dilute the juice if your flavor % takes in the amount of water added….
fwiw, i do know that in WWII its said that they substituted a seawater in emergency situations for blood transfusions… you know minerals, in parts per million in seawater is similar to blood composition.
i haven't done this yet…
fwiw, i do know that in WWII its said that they substituted a seawater in emergency situations for blood transfusions… you know minerals, in parts per million in seawater is similar to blood composition.
i haven't done this yet…
fwiw, I can taste salt in my mixes when I use saline but it may be because I'm not used to it in my diet. My wife is on a no/low sodium diet so she doesn't use it when she cooks and uses substitutes when she bakes. When we eat at restaurants everything tastes salty to me and when I started using it, (2 drops/ml) I definitely tasted a difference
But I'm holding off on final judgement until my taste buds stop the schizophrenic swings from salty to sweet which started up again recently. (It's so bad I'm reluctant to try out my recent mixes since I won't be able to judge them properly)
But I'm holding off on final judgement until my taste buds stop the schizophrenic swings from salty to sweet which started up again recently. (It's so bad I'm reluctant to try out my recent mixes since I won't be able to judge them properly)
Yeah, the low-salt diet does that to me too.
Right now...I'm kinda normal-salt (today) so maybe that's why I didn't taste it. But....I don't really want to most of the time. Still, I think that it isn't vaporized...more likely "carried along" or spit...not that that really matters. I guess if you're after salt...like for pretzel or pickle flavor...or choc chip cookie...maybe it would help.
I'd keep it down though. 2 drops per ml...if you want to reduce it...cut it in 1/2!
There's another thread about blood pressure here somewhere......
Anyway...(brace yourself)...I was wrong. Because, well, some salt can get to your tastebuds somehow. But...I don't plan on adding salt very often if at all. Just water. There's enough salt in everything else....I don't need it in e-juice too. But that's me.
I'll bet your topper makes a diff too. Anyone getting salt flavor with, say, a fiber filled carto?
Right now...I'm kinda normal-salt (today) so maybe that's why I didn't taste it. But....I don't really want to most of the time. Still, I think that it isn't vaporized...more likely "carried along" or spit...not that that really matters. I guess if you're after salt...like for pretzel or pickle flavor...or choc chip cookie...maybe it would help.
I'd keep it down though. 2 drops per ml...if you want to reduce it...cut it in 1/2!
There's another thread about blood pressure here somewhere......
Anyway...(brace yourself)...I was wrong. Because, well, some salt can get to your tastebuds somehow. But...I don't plan on adding salt very often if at all. Just water. There's enough salt in everything else....I don't need it in e-juice too. But that's me.
I'll bet your topper makes a diff too. Anyone getting salt flavor with, say, a fiber filled carto?
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Funny you mention the spitting as I get some in my igo-w/l tanks and the salt was more evident when it happened. As for coil buildup I haven't noticed much of a difference over the last couple weeks, but it's still too early to tell for sure.
High blood pressure is not a concern for me at all, I was told to increase either salt or water intake to raise my pressure up a bit. I was going to suggest a more attractive nurse to increase it but thought better of it since I was about to get blood drawn and wanted to make sure they used a needle to do it.
High blood pressure is not a concern for me at all, I was told to increase either salt or water intake to raise my pressure up a bit. I was going to suggest a more attractive nurse to increase it but thought better of it since I was about to get blood drawn and wanted to make sure they used a needle to do it.
You're right, the salt will not vaporize in non-polar solvents like PG, VG, or water. Most, if not all the salt is left behind.Yeah, the low-salt diet does that to me too.
Right now...I'm kinda normal-salt (today) so maybe that's why I didn't taste it. But....I don't really want to most of the time. Still, I think that it isn't vaporized...more likely "carried along" or spit...not that that really matters. I guess if you're after salt...like for pretzel or pickle flavor...or choc chip cookie...maybe it would help.
I'd keep it down though. 2 drops per ml...if you want to reduce it...cut it in 1/2!
There's another thread about blood pressure here somewhere......
Anyway...(brace yourself)...I was wrong. Because, well, some salt can get to your tastebuds somehow. But...I don't plan on adding salt very often if at all. Just water. There's enough salt in everything else....I don't need it in e-juice too. But that's me.
I'll bet your topper makes a diff too. Anyone getting salt flavor with, say, a fiber filled carto?
I have not tried the NS (normal saline) for inhalation yet. I use it all the time at work with my trach patients. I do know it can be nebulized. It does add moisture. One possible side effect-which is a positive for some. It can produce coughing/loosen phloem and clear airways.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...i1J2AmpVWX0JaEP8lTQMVkg&bvm=bv.59568121,d.cWc
http://www.smiths-medicaloem.com/ca...-solutions/normal-saline-sodium-chloride.html
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...i1J2AmpVWX0JaEP8lTQMVkg&bvm=bv.59568121,d.cWc
http://www.smiths-medicaloem.com/ca...-solutions/normal-saline-sodium-chloride.html
You are giving your patients a mist, not vapor; the same difference between an ocean mist and fog.
It has to wreak havoc on the coils. Chlorides and heat cause instant oxidation.
I've been following this thread with great interest and posted earlier. The reason I'm interested is not for adding a salt flavor to the mix but to increase moisture and reduce the drying effect of vaping. As I'm pretty much a chain vaper, at the end of the day my sinus get dry and my throat gets scratchy and raw and I was hoping adding saline would reduce this. I also read that adding a 10% baking soda/water solution to the mix to reduce the acidity (Lower the PH to soften the mix) will also accomplish the same thing.
So my question to you all is does this make sense and do you think it helps?
So my question to you all is does this make sense and do you think it helps?
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Yes it helps Danny , the reason I starte using the saline was not for flavour enhancement but to moisturize as I had same problem you did soar dry throat everyday , would wake up with horrible sore throat and since using 5% usually sometimes up to 10% saline haven't had problem since . I started using 10% but found 5% gives same amount of lubrication to my sinuses and throat
I believe (my thoughts) that it would help to enhance moisture. However, I don't know what it would do to coils. I think I may experiment with this next week.
I've been adding 5% of saline solution to my vape for >1 month. I tried because of my dry sinuses -- which seemed to improve noticeably almost immediately. My hvac doesn't have humidifier so original issue may or may not have been vape. I don't add salt to my foods, and 10% mix definitely tasted salty. I mix 100% VG + 15% H20 + 5% saline which works quite well for me.
Though untested I have a theory the saline actually increases vape volume because of its electrical conductivity. Pls report if anyone tries a controlled test.
Though untested I have a theory the saline actually increases vape volume because of its electrical conductivity. Pls report if anyone tries a controlled test.
So the saline I purchased that has bicarbonate in it Use or not?? It don't really matter, I just got a text from a buddy. He gonna snag me some saline irrigation off one of the ambulances at the firehouse. Still like to see some more veterans results in the matter. What I have seen is about enough to sway me that direction.
With me being a newb I don't want to add to the confusion of mixing by trying to make up a solution of vg,saline,water. I just want to add the needed amount of drops of saline to the final mix. I know drops vary but 1 -5 drops isn't gonna change things that much is it? Seems like I read 2 drops per 10ml????
With me being a newb I don't want to add to the confusion of mixing by trying to make up a solution of vg,saline,water. I just want to add the needed amount of drops of saline to the final mix. I know drops vary but 1 -5 drops isn't gonna change things that much is it? Seems like I read 2 drops per 10ml????
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OK. Those of you that live near the ocean....
What happens to skin, if anything, from ocean swimming? (should be a similar thing to saline solution if one of the posts above was correct).
Remember you can't rinse your lungs out after vaping like you rinse off seawater after swimming. So....does it matter?
I assume it's OK since saline is designed to match body salt levels...........
EDIT: Never mind. I just don't think you actually get all the salt...just a little...and that you're probably wasting $$$ at this point and could just use water to humidify it...
The water adds moisture. The salt...adds salt.
If you're a newbie....I'd try it with a little distilled water 1st (like 1 or 2 %)...no saline. See how you like it. Then you have a baseline to compare to.
What happens to skin, if anything, from ocean swimming? (should be a similar thing to saline solution if one of the posts above was correct).
Remember you can't rinse your lungs out after vaping like you rinse off seawater after swimming. So....does it matter?
I assume it's OK since saline is designed to match body salt levels...........
EDIT: Never mind. I just don't think you actually get all the salt...just a little...and that you're probably wasting $$$ at this point and could just use water to humidify it...
The water adds moisture. The salt...adds salt.
If you're a newbie....I'd try it with a little distilled water 1st (like 1 or 2 %)...no saline. See how you like it. Then you have a baseline to compare to.
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The saline solution is used as an inhalant for respiratory illness...nebulized saline can be used to humidify airways. If a patient is having decreased oxygen intake due to illness, adding just dry air can irritate the lining of the lungs. Using a small amount of nebulized saline can ease the the process by decreasing damage to the cilia, which are tiny "brooms" that move particles through mucous membranes.
Maintaining a smooth unobstructed airway is vital in patients, but it also has recreational uses. The "Journal of Speech, Language, and Hearing Research" compared water-nebulized soprano singers to a saline-nebulized group. The saline group exhibited better vocal effort than water alone.
The isotonic saline nebulizer device turns 0.9 percent sodium chloride into a mist for inhalation. It is commonly used by both patients and health care professionals to treat respiratory illness. Although traditionally viewed as a placebo, nebulized isotonic saline can be beneficial in patients with a respiratory illness. Other studies have shown it has ergogenic uses as well.
Maintaining a smooth unobstructed airway is vital in patients, but it also has recreational uses. The "Journal of Speech, Language, and Hearing Research" compared water-nebulized soprano singers to a saline-nebulized group. The saline group exhibited better vocal effort than water alone.
The isotonic saline nebulizer device turns 0.9 percent sodium chloride into a mist for inhalation. It is commonly used by both patients and health care professionals to treat respiratory illness. Although traditionally viewed as a placebo, nebulized isotonic saline can be beneficial in patients with a respiratory illness. Other studies have shown it has ergogenic uses as well.
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