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  1. sashim80

    sashim80 Ultra Member

    Hello Walt! First I want to say thank you so much for your perfect juices at amazing prices! :)

    So I've been very interested in trying out some ready to vape unflavored juice with the nicotine already in it. Is that basically what the base of the diy is? Can you vape it without adding the flavorings to it. I'm looking for 50/50 18mg around abouts those numbers. Also how much vapeable unflavored is actually in the bottle? Sorry hope all that makes sense! :) I was hoping to add some in with my order this weekend!
     
  2. JoanJ

    JoanJ ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 4, 2014
    WV
    Yep Sash... you can vape this without flavoring but think it will make the nic level shown a bit off because was designed to be diluted a little... about 15%.... with flavorings.
     
  3. demlevis

    demlevis Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2014
    Omaha, NE
    What Joan said... plus, the base comes in a 135 mL bottle with about 115mL in it. The extra space was intended to allow you to add up to 2 flavor vials directly to the bottle for about 15% flavor.
     
  4. sashim80

    sashim80 Ultra Member

    Maybe when I order I can just put what I'm doing (vaping it as unflavored) in the comments section. That way they might be able to get it around 50/50 for me. Just a lil confused about the changing pg/vg ratios when the flavor Is supposed to be added. Hmmmm
     
  5. JoanJ

    JoanJ ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 4, 2014
    WV
    The pg/vg ratio is no biggie... this will up the nic level a bit though but not enough to really make a difference. No need to do comments, this is prebottled I think. Remember tht the 99 cent sale bottles are normally 40pg/60vg. I have this in 6 mg... unflavored 120 ml bottle and can't really tell any difference.

    Just order and vape it as it is, it will be close enough and you will be fine. If you get bored of vaping nothingness, then next time buy a bottle or 2 of the flavorings that you like
     
  6. demlevis

    demlevis Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2014
    Omaha, NE
    Adding flavor changes the ratio a bit because the flavor concentrate itself is in a base as a "carrier" for the flavor. Most are PG base, so if you mix to 15% flavor, the PG % increases by approximately 15%. (Unless you use flavoring in a vg base - currently the only KJ flavorings available with vg base are tobacco and menthol.)

    As an example, if you use a bottle of 100% vg base, and add 15% flavoring, your final mix is approximately 85% vg / 15% pg.

    Did that help?
     
  7. demlevis

    demlevis Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2014
    Omaha, NE
    Ok, so I just realized that Joan's original comment was more about nicotine than pg/vg ratio. Same idea as my last post: the flavor base is 0 nic, so it will dilute the nic content of the base mix a bit. Not sure if Walt "spikes" the base so it's a little higher as-is and comes to the specified nic content after the flavor is added or if it starts at the specified nic and is just diluted to slightly lower nic when flavor is added. My guess is the latter to make sure the base product is as labeled if it's tested. (#keepwaltoutoftrouble).

    If it is "spiked" to be 15% higher to compensate for dilution, it should still be within .9-3.6 mg/mL of the labeled nic concentration (15%×the nic content would be .9, 1.8, 2.7, and 3.6 for 6mg, 12mg, 18mg, and 24mg, respectively.)

    I'm sure Walt will see this and respond when he gets a free moment.
     
  8. windxrunner

    windxrunner Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2014
    Portland, OR
    How many milliliters are the base bottles? How many ml are the bottles of flavoring? If I do like OP said, mix one bottle of base with two flavoring bottles, how many ml of DIY juice does that yield?
     
  9. Walt83

    Walt83 Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Dec 9, 2013
    United States
    Each vial is 8ml, when added to base you should get 136ml of e-liquid :D
     
  10. windxrunner

    windxrunner Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2014
    Portland, OR
    Wow that's some dealage right there
     
  11. Kemosabe

    Kemosabe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 21, 2011
    Roe Dylin
    I scored myself some citrus dew flavoring and pancakes flavoring (as well as Baja and Bomb Pop ejuice). I can't wait to mix up some flavorful vapes!

    I'm a citrus freak plus I really dig walts dew so I'm super stoked to shake n vape. I've tried diy-ing my own dew and keep falling flat on my face. Can't wait to "dew" it up right ;) :laugh:

    And the pancakes just looked way too good to pass up. To anyone who's tried the pancakes flavoring: does it have the maple and / or the yummy rich butteryness?

    I have the feeling once I try the Baja I'll be ordering the flavoring for that one too. Like, instantly. It will also likely trigger me to scoop the entire line of dews. It was tough for me not to go hog wild on this sale. Kinda kicking myself for not. Oh well, definitely not my last order- that's for damn sure.

    You rock Walt! Keep on dewing what you dew :)
     
  12. SpyderBite

    SpyderBite Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 30, 2011
    Sedona, AZ
    What brands are the flavorings? I ordered 3 flavorings and wanted to look at recipies but noticed that the levels differ from brand to brand.
     
  13. JoanJ

    JoanJ ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 4, 2014
    WV
    They are Killer Juice flavorings. They make their own. If doing a single flavor, you go for about 15-18% flavoring normally. 2 vials of Walt's flavorings flavor one of his 100 ml premix.
     
  14. SpyderBite

    SpyderBite Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 30, 2011
    Sedona, AZ
    Well I ordered 24mg with max pg and a bottle of VG. I wanted to go for a 75/25 pg/vg mix and start out with a 10ml bottle until I get the recipe down. Suggestions for base/vg/flavoring ratio to start out with?
     
  15. JoanJ

    JoanJ ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 4, 2014
    WV
    If you target the flavoring at 15% then you would use a total of 1.5 ml of flavoring and 8.5ml of your base to get the 10 ml bottle

    Can't figure the base as not sure what nic level you are doing. While most of the flavorings are PG based, some are VG but they are clearly marked on KJ site.

    If you want to post the recipe here I will try to help more. If you want to PM that is fine too. No guarantees but will try to help as much as I can.
     
  16. Kemosabe

    Kemosabe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 21, 2011
    Roe Dylin
    i plan to mix my citrus dew flavoring at 15%. i absolutely loved Walt's Citrus Dew before the flavoring % change (and since before the name change too) and i seem to remember 15% being the old % so i'll start there. i am loving this shakeNvape idea already.

    i think i'll go 15% on pancakes too although ive never had KJ pancakes (yet!).

    :vapor:
     
  17. JoanJ

    JoanJ ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 4, 2014
    WV
    Yep that is pretty close. 2 vials of Dew flavoring to 1 of premix will be perfect ratio... if you want 120 ml at once :D
     
  18. SpyderBite

    SpyderBite Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 30, 2011
    Sedona, AZ
    Thanks JoanJ.

    I'm shooting for a 75/25 VG/PG, Base is 24mg PG, and I'd like the highest nic I can get out of that as I'm used to using 24mg juice but 24mg base was the highest Walt sells at this time.

    I also ordered a bottle of 100% vg so I can accomplish the 75/25.

    So I came up with the following:

    Base: 8.33ml
    VG: 2.20ml
    Flavoring (coffee): 1.50ml

    Target is: 10ml 75pg/25vg 20mg nic

    Corrected VG..
     
  19. JoanJ

    JoanJ ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 4, 2014
    WV
    Looks like you did fine without me. Just know that coffee is one of those flavors that tends to be POTENT. Coffee is also a flavor... KJ or any vandor, that needs a steep. I like my coffee vapes rather weak... like 2 drops per ml :D I would say after a week though you will have a pretty good idea of what direction this one is going and you can go from there.
     
  20. SpyderBite

    SpyderBite Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 30, 2011
    Sedona, AZ
    I've been having a blast with the diy stuff. But I have a simple question.

    If I order a 24mg nic base and add two bottles of flavor. Isn't that going to lower the nic to about 16-18mg? Or is the % of flavoring factored in when the base is mixed?
     
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