Do I have to sacrifice flavor for throat hit?

[vapee]

something like 70pg 30vg or 60pg 40vg is decent for throat hit and vapor, just need some experimentation to see what works for you and depending on what device and flavor as some flavors may taste better at lower watts where some may be better at higher watts. Best is to get some bulk pg from a trusted supplier and can experiment on the cheap then and vg too..

 

[thailand]

Maybe try a 50/50 mix. PG is the flavor, VG is the clouds. Get either 6 mg or even 3 mg nic level. SOme flavors are just harser than others though, so you may have to fine tune it a bit.
Throw the OCC 0.5 coil in. Put a drop or 2 in the top, and on each of the holes on the side, fill the tank, assemble it and allow it to sit for about a minute...just to give the wick some more time to saturate. Adjust your airflow, start at 15 watts, and see how you like it. That should be a good starting point, then fine tune to your liking

 

[ddirtyvapes]

I'm sort of nervous about navigating the various settings on it, but I guess that's silly.

What are you most nervous about? It's really very simple. Once you get your set-up put together, start at a low wattage and slowly work your way up until you hit a good sweet spot and things taste good and not dry or burnt. The stock Kanger OCC heads (which you will be using) even have recommended wattage ranges for the ohm rating. It's not really possible to run a coil at too low a wattage, it just won't work as well as it would in optimal range. It is definitely possible to run it too high. I almost always start below even the lowest recommended range with a new coil to get it warmed up.

 

[ashes to batteries]

Lol, I think I'm just nervous because I didn't realize how much I didn't know!

 

[thailand]

Maybe your shop has a testing area to try juices before you buy like mine does. That way I never leave with a juice I don't like.

I use the highest airflow, and my juices are 100%VG, and since the clouds are pretty large(for me anyways), the flavor is there regardless. I also take direct lung hits as well.

And hey, playing with the setting is the fun part!!! One of the best parts about the Subox is that you can experiment to find what fits YOU. Vaping is definitely not one size fits all.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

Lol, I think I'm just nervous because I didn't realize how much I didn't know!

Well try not to let that get you because there's always more to know. Certainly you want to make sure you have the bare minimum of knowledge to stay safe (the Subox is a fairly safe device anyway) but I've been vaping for five years and am learning new things practically every day. Not to mention the speed at which the technology moves requires learning new stuff often if you feel like staying on the cutting edge. If you're interested, just keep reading and watching videos; once you have the basics down it's much less overwhelming. Truth is I wish that these kinds of devices were available when I first made the switch, and I know I'm not alone there.

On the other hand, lots of people find that one device they love, and then they're set for years. It just depends on what you want, how much you enjoy it, and whether you're looking for a new hobby.

 

[ashes to batteries]

I'm just glad for you guys. I wasn't treated very nicely when I tried to ask questions at 2 of the vape shops in town. Part of why I have up for 6 months.

 

[thailand]

Lol, I think I'm just nervous because I didn't realize how much I didn't know!

We're all here to learn, and I learn from threads like this as well. Some of these vaping vets are masters of the game!
Let us know how you like the Subox, and don't worry about making a mistake. The kit comes with 3 premade coils, and even an extra 0.5 ohm coil, and some cotton wick for the RBA.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

The kit comes with 3 premade coils, and even an extra 0.5 ohm coil, and some cotton wick for the RBA.

Does it come with 3 prebuilt coils? I thought just two (the .5 and 1.5) but I could be wrong. This is hardly the most important thing said in the thread-- far from it-- I just don't want anyone to think they're missing a piece!

Either way, you are right the kit comes with plenty of material to play around with!

 

[thailand]

If you were in Philly, the shop I go to has some really great people working there, always willing to help.

 

[mauricem00]

So I'm not entirely new to vaping but I am entirely ignorant. I've tried to switch from cigarettes to vaping a few times without much success but I think I've narrowed down the issues.

I went from a Blue ecig to the generic starter kits they throw at you when you walk into the local vape shop. I think my lack of success is the equipment. And I've tried to browse the threads but honestly didn't understand most of what I read. I'm a very heavy smoker emotionally ready to make the switch.

What I want is a good throat hit but still get good flavor (if it matters, I prefer sweet, fruity flavors). I want the regular cigarettes to start tasting gross to me. It seems thus far I've had to choose one (throat hit) over the other (flavor).

So I figure it's an equipment issue. I also don't want huge clouds of smoke. Something portable that can move around in my purse without leaking, that I can find parts for.locally and easily. I'm currently using my boyfriend's and I seem to have to draw on it several times before getting a hit, I don't like that. He says it's normal, he says the one I'm using is made to smoke like that. He says it's called a pass through or something?

Also, it seems most of the ones I've tried don't last very long.

I'd also like to be able to remove the tip for cleaning since I wear lipstick. And I'd like to be able to change flavors easily.

Please break this down into idiot terms. I'm supposed to go this weekend to get the equipment I need.

Thank you!

you may want to look at the protank 2. it has a glass tank with removable tip and inexpensive coils I have 2 of them and they give good flavor and vapor production while being a cool enough vape for a newbie. it is an inexpensive tank but it works very well

 

[thailand]

Does it come with 3 prebuilt coils? I thought just two (the .5 and 1.5) but I could be wrong. This is hardly the most important thing said in the thread-- far from it-- I just don't want anyone to think they're missing a piece!

Either way, you are right the kit comes with plenty of material to play around with!

It comes with 2 OCC coils and an RBA coil. There is also a baggie with extra screws, a screwdriver, a pre wrapped coil for the RBA, and a sheet of japanese cotton.

 

[ashes to batteries]

Would I want to start with the .5 or the 1.5? The 1.5 has more surface area so produces more vapor but burns hotter?

 

[ddirtyvapes]

Right, OK, that's what I thought! I understand what you meant in your first post now; there are 2 OCC heads but three ready-to-use coils in there, including the one already installed in the RBA, yes.

I'm not sure I totally agree about the Protank 2 suggestion, if only because it may not seem like as much fun once you're used to the Subtank. But if you have money to burn and want to try other goodies, maybe. Personally I'd sooner get another tank capable of running sub-ohm coils, eventually. The beauty of the kit is not needing to buy much else extra right off the bat, though, with the exception of maybe some more prebuilt coil heads.

Would I want to start with the .5 or the 1.5? The 1.5 has more surface area so produces more vapor but burns hotter?

I'd probably start with the 1.5 if I were you, just to get used to how the tank works. Really you could go with either. They will both work well in the subtank, but depending on the settings the .5 will generally produce more vapor and may be a little overwhelming before you're comfortable with the new set-up.

 

[thailand]

So I'm not entirely new to vaping but I am entirely ignorant. I've tried to switch from cigarettes to vaping a few times without much success but I think I've narrowed down the issues.

I went from a Blue ecig to the generic starter kits they throw at you when you walk into the local vape shop. I think my lack of success is the equipment. And I've tried to browse the threads but honestly didn't understand most of what I read. I'm a very heavy smoker emotionally ready to make the switch.

What I want is a good throat hit but still get good flavor (if it matters, I prefer sweet, fruity flavors). I want the regular cigarettes to start tasting gross to me. It seems thus far I've had to choose one (throat hit) over the other (flavor).

So I figure it's an equipment issue. I also don't want huge clouds of smoke. Something portable that can move around in my purse without leaking, that I can find parts for.locally and easily. I'm currently using my boyfriend's and I seem to have to draw on it several times before getting a hit, I don't like that. He says it's normal, he says the one I'm using is made to smoke like that. He says it's called a pass through or something?

Also, it seems most of the ones I've tried don't last very long.

I'd also like to be able to remove the tip for cleaning since I wear lipstick. And I'd like to be able to change flavors easily.

Please break this down into idiot terms. I'm supposed to go this weekend to get the equipment I need.

Thank you!

Oh, and I forgot to mention that the drip tip is removable, so wiping off lipstick or gloss is very easy. Another plus for the Subox!

 

[AXIOM_1]

So basically, when I get my device tomorrow, I should stick with the standard coils for a bit and ask for a higher pg level to achieve a smooth but present throat hit and massive flavor?

Yes, if you desire a throat hit that is exactly like real smoking then you can either select an e juice that is 50% PG or above (maybe 70% PG), or you can increase your nicotine in the e juice. However, a word of caution about high nicotine levels is in order.... When I first started I WRONGLY assumed that because I was a heavy smoker that I needed lots of nicotine in order to get good throat hits and feel like I was smoking a real cigg. So, when I loaded up my larger unit with a high nicotine dose and took my first hit it about knocked me off my feet. I was walking sideways for a few minutes lol. But, you can't entirely base your nicotine level off of how much you smoked. The biggest factor in determining your nicotine level is how powerful of hardware you will be using. The larger the power you operate at, then the LOWER a nicotine level you will need. When using small ecig setups such as cig-a-likes, or some of your smaller vape pens then a person can use higher dosages of nicotine because they are not getting all that much vapor into their body on each inhale..... Lots of folks that use small powered vape pens use 18 or 24MG of nicotine in their e juices. However, with the mod that you are thinking about getting, it is much more powerful than a small vape pen and will provide much more smoke (vapor) and so when you inhale lots more nicotine will get into your body than what puffs off of a real cigg would provide, or what a small vape pen would provide.

 

[thailand]

Would I want to start with the .5 or the 1.5? The 1.5 has more surface area so produces more vapor but burns hotter?

Its the opposite. The 0.5 will burn hotter, quicker since the resistance is lower. You'll get a warmer, denser vape. The 1.5 has more resistance that will burn cooler for longer. This is assuming you have the same wattage going through each coil.
My advice, try em both out! You'll find which you like, and what will work best with your flavor.
I'm a sucker for the Swedish Fish flavor, so I like the lower ohms for the warmer, thicker vape that tastes like a nice warm gummy candy. Delicious! lol
Admittedly, there will be some trial and error involved. Best to start at 15 watts, and move up in wattage. If you start at the top 50 watts, you could burn the cotton and then everything will taste like poo until you replace the cotton.

 

[ashes to batteries]

I was thinking 3 or 6 for the nicotine level? I found the high nicotine levels painful when my shop talked me into it for my ego.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

Thanks thailand, I tried to explain the same thing but when I typed it out it just didn't look right for some reason...

So yeah ashes, like thailand says, if you're talking about the same wattage then the .5 is going to give you more, warmer vapor. But you can get as warm of a vape from the 1.5 as the .5 if you fiddle with the power, which is why it's so dependent on the settings. On the whole, I think the 1.5 will feel a little more comfortable as a starting point based on the things you were likely using on an eGo before now, though.

I'd say go with 3mg nic to start. You can always go up a bit. You can always go down, too, but 3mg is less likely to end in you feeling queasy. Honestly you may want to get a bottle of 0mg too, even a small one. I know when I got my first subtank it was so exciting I overdid it and I wish I had a bottle with no nic in it so I could have played without making myself ill.

 

[AXIOM_1]

It's hard to say..... Some folks will suggest to you to start with 3 MG and some with 6 MG.......... Personally, because my lungs are shot from smoking for almost 40 years, I would start off with 6MG............. If with that dosage you do not feel like you have smoked a real cigg or that you haven't gotten your nicotine fix then you will know that you have to increase your dosage, say to about 8 or 10 MG..... On the other hand if you experience a slight headache or nervousness then that is an indicator you are getting too much for your system in which case you would know to reduce it to say about 3MG