Do I have to sacrifice flavor for throat hit?

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Thanks thailand, I tried to explain the same thing but when I typed it out it just didn't look right for some reason...

So yeah ashes, like thailand says, if you're talking about the same wattage then the .5 is going to give you more, warmer vapor. But you can get as warm of a vape from the 1.5 as the .5 if you fiddle with the power, which is why it's so dependent on the settings. On the whole, I think the 1.5 will feel a little more comfortable as a starting point based on the things you were likely using on an eGo before now, though.

I'd say go with 3mg nic to start. You can always go up a bit. You can always go down, too, but 3mg is less likely to end in you feeling queasy. Honestly you may want to get a bottle of 0mg too, even a small one. I know when I got my first subtank it was so exciting I overdid it and I wish I had a bottle with no nic in it so I could have played without making myself ill.

No problem,Axiom. You bring up a good point though. The 1.5 is a good starting point, as it will provide a cooler vape to the throat, and more room to play with the wattage, without burning the wick.
I'd absolutely go with 3mg. Its a happy medium since you will get more vape per hit, and it will balance itself out...you know, high nic for vape pens with low vapor, low nic for mods with high vapor production for the same effect.
 

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I'm sort of nervous about navigating the various settings on it, but I guess that's silly.
Lol, no, not silly. Be at ease, you'll figure it out very quickly, like in the first 10 minutes. Set up your tank, being sure to prime the wick. Put a drop or two of juice in the top middle of the coil, install it, then fill the tank and let it rest upright for 5 or 10 mins. Then take a couple of draws on it without firing the mod. That should do for priming. Set the power in the 1/4 to 1/3 range, hit the button and vape a couple of draws. Run the power up to half way and repeat. Then to 2/3rds or 3/4ths and repeat. That will be enough to tell you where to start. From there, it's just a matter of tweaking it to preference.
 

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Would I want to start with the .5 or the 1.5? The 1.5 has more surface area so produces more vapor but burns hotter?
I would try both to see which you like better, so it doesn't matter which one you start with. The 1.5 may or may not have more surface area (it doesn't have to, they can use different sizes of wire) but it will be cooler at the same power level. The lower power and higher ohms, the less heat/vapor.
 
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Two things I have found that produce throat hit. Higher nicotine and higher PG. Also lower ohm coils produce more vapor so you can get throat hit by producing more vapor, because your getting more nicotine and PG per inhale.

not absolutely true about lower ohm coils necessarily. Higher ohm coils with higher wattage will give fantastic vapour on a regulated mod! The sub-ohm thing is, in many ways, a relic of using mech mods with a max of 4 volts or so, so the only way to get some wattage in there is to reduce the coil resistance. There are other options is all Im saying!!
 

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not absolutely true about lower ohm coils necessarily. Higher ohm coils with higher wattage will give fantastic vapour on a regulated mod! The sub-ohm thing is, in many ways, a relic of using mech mods with a max of 4 volts or so, so the only way to get some wattage in there is to reduce the coil resistance. There are other options is all Im saying!!
Lol, while I agree in general, the mech modder in me objects to the term "relic." ;-)
 

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Lol, while I agree in general, the mech modder in me objects to the term "relic." ;-)


That was a bit tongue-in-cheek...I was just checking if the mech guys were paying attention!!! lol!

Maybe 'sub-ohm is necessity imposed by using mech mods...'

Better?!?! :)
 

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That was a bit tongue-in-cheek...I was just checking if the mech guys were paying attention!!! lol!

Maybe 'sub-ohm is necessity imposed by using mech mods...'

Better?!?! :)
Lol, much, thank you. You're perfectly correct, of course. I became a mekkie years ago, when the best regulated mods could only make 15 watts or so. Back in the dark ages, the only route to more power was straight batteries firing low ohm coils; and as Ohms Law is inexorable and battery voltage (semi-) fixed, lower ohms = more power. Nowadays vapers have much better gear-- imagine a n00b like this lady having access to 50 watts with no risk of blowing herself up!-- and it's become time to think of coil ohms as just another tweak to tune for flavor. I just got a Snow Wolf 200W TC mod, and the silly thing is right next door to amazing. I hung a Lemo2 with a mere .5 ohm coil on it and was scared to turn it up past 100w. That thing'll blow you up like a balloon. I have just started playing with temp control, the Ni200 wire having arrived, and that's pretty amazing too. The technology is in its infancy, and will doubtless benefit from 2 or 3 more generations of firmware, but already I think TC is The Next Big Thing, no flash in the pan or a fad. Next year we'll see mods as low as 30w bringing it, and coils for legacy tanks with high-delta wire.

Still, though, I don't think mechs will go away, just become a niche market segment. There's something special about it and, having learned how, good results can be produced. I'm vaping one now, with my SW sitting on the desk at home. My car rig is a stainless Nemi with the 18350 tube, topped with a Fogger. Nor am I likely to give them up entirely. I was looking at a MMVapors Nano just last night :)
 

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Lol, much, thank you. You're perfectly correct, of course. I became a mekkie years ago, when the best regulated mods could only make 15 watts or so. Back in the dark ages, the only route to more power was straight batteries firing low ohm coils; and as Ohms Law is inexorable and battery voltage (semi-) fixed, lower ohms = more power. Nowadays vapers have much better gear-- imagine a n00b like this lady having access to 50 watts with no risk of blowing herself up!-- and it's become time to think of coil ohms as just another tweak to tune for flavor. I just got a Snow Wolf 200W TC mod, and the silly thing is right next door to amazing. I hung a Lemo2 with a mere .5 ohm coil on it and was scared to turn it up past 100w. That thing'll blow you up like a balloon. I have just started playing with temp control, the Ni200 wire having arrived, and that's pretty amazing too. The technology is in its infancy, and will doubtless benefit from 2 or 3 more generations of firmware, but already I think TC is The Next Big Thing, no flash in the pan or a fad. Next year we'll see mods as low as 30w bringing it, and coils for legacy tanks with high-delta wire.

Still, though, I don't think mechs will go away, just become a niche market segment. There's something special about it and, having learned how, good results can be produced. I'm vaping one now, with my SW sitting on the desk at home. My car rig is a stainless Nemi with the 18350 tube, topped with a Fogger. Nor am I likely to give them up entirely. I was looking at a MMVapors Nano just last night :)


Absolutley.

If you are starting on the TC route (which is fantsastic) and you like high power, the DNA200 chip mods are going to be right up your street!!
 
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Woo hoo! I love how much I am learning! I am SO EXCITED to quit smoking tomorrow! I'm glad to learn about sub OHM. I don't want clouds. Just loads of flavor and a moderate throat hit. And more vapor so I can go with a lower nicotine.

Lower nicotine wouldn't be a great idea; for one thing, quitting smoking, you need to find the highest level of nicotine you can tolerate; and 2, if you want throat hit... you need to find the highest level of nic you can tolerate. Nicotine is not a bad guy, and unless your blood pressure if off the charts, won't even hurt you -- it's all the other garbage in cigarettes that are harmful, NOT nicotine.

Don't be so eager to ditch the thing that might save you from cigarette addiction -- nicotine.

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Well that's the thing, I think I was using a higher nicotine than I could handle.

If you were nauseous, jittery, or had stomach pain, then definitely. If you didn't have any unpleasant symptoms like that, then probably not -- nic overdose is very easy to recognize! It usually starts with that spinning head that you probably haven't felt since you first started smoking... :D

I've never been one to always suggest "higher nic!" because I've always had to use such a low level myself, but if you want good TH, it's going to take some nicotine for sure -- PG and Flash can only do so much.

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