Do the majority of PV users plan on quitting completely?

[lostknitter]

I have been at this for 10 weeks, and have cut my nic down from 18 or so, depending on the seller, to 6 or 8 depending on the seller. I don't notice a difference in taste so much as a difference in throat hit. I don't plan on quitting vaping. Don't know at this point if I'll worry about lowering the nic level any more.

 

[H. Wordsmythe]

It's an extremely good point that I don't recall seeing brought up before in that context.
I think a big part of it is that many people vastly underestimate the parts of their "addiction" that have nothing to do with nicotine.

I hope I don't open a can of worms with this one, but here goes... Why is dependence, or to use the really dirty word - addiction - such a bad thing in the first place? If we take away the "it's bad for your health" factor, we're left with the "you can't get by without it" factor, but this is really a flawed argument, in my opinion. If I ever do HAVE TO go without - because I ran out of juice, or my battery died, or I'm broke, or I've crash-landed on a desert-island - guess what? I will go without. I will get by. I might not be happy about it until I get used to it, but so what? As long as I can increase my enjoyment of life by "depending" on something that makes me happy and isn't killing me, I'm going to.

 

[H. Wordsmythe]

I wanted to lower my nic level due to the vasoconstricting effect it has. I have a HUGE family history of heart disease.

Thanks for sharing such a specific reason for lowering the nic! I wish more people would do that so i could understand better... But oh well, it's not really any of my business anyway; I'm just curious!

 

[bebop09]

I've been thinking about it recently. Although during my quest for the best PV setup for me I couldn't handle it as going back to smoking was the alternative. I recently got my Reo Grand functioning as a stable way of vaping and the thought has been crossing my mind. To be honest it is easier for me to consider quting vaping when I found a strong plateau with vaping. I live with my cousin who still smokes and finally after all these years of smoking and then vaping I now am mildly annoyed by the smell of smoke and dont see smoking analogs as something I want to get back into. As long as I can exercise well enough while vaping I probably will put off quitting for some time. Heh, literally not vaping and exercising at the same time, but I'm sure you get what I mean.

 

[DC2]

I hope I don't open a can of worms with this one, but here goes... Why is dependence, or to use the really dirty word - addiction - such a bad thing in the first place? If we take away the "it's bad for your health" factor, we're left with the "you can't get by without it" factor, but this is really a flawed argument, in my opinion. If I ever do HAVE TO go without - because I ran out of juice, or my battery died, or I'm broke, or I've crash-landed on a desert-island - guess what? I will go without. I will get by. I might not be happy about it until I get used to it, but so what? As long as I can increase my enjoyment of life by "depending" on something that makes me happy and isn't killing me, I'm going to.

A lot of people want to feel in control of themselves, and therefore don't like feeling dependent on anything.
This, despite the fact that there are lots of things that they are dependent on, like love and money and food and water.

And then of course there are a lot of people who have been brainwashed into thinking "addictions" are always bad.
And finally, you have those who think that nicotine really is so bad for you that it is important to stop using it as soon as possible.

 

[Olef]

No intention to quit vaping here. I never quit analog's because I love to smoke, now I can do that without inhaling all the other crap that burning tobacco produces. And save money (allegedly). What's not to like?

Olef

 

[zizzlak]

For me, I intend to get down to 0 mg. nic. I started at 24mg, I am now down to 3mg. I mix my own from 36mg. Why? A lot of people might not like this answer, but because I am not a trusting person. I don't trust 100% that vaping is completely safe. I know nicotine is a poison and while there is no proof that nicotine is carcinogenic, there is equally no proof that it isn't. Do I think vaping is safer than analogs? You bet! Do I think it's harmless? I don't know. As others have mentioned, there are cardiovascular implications. So, harm free, I doubt it. Not trying to be a downer here, just being realistic. Much less harmful, yeah, I'll buy that. Just remember that if something seems too good to be true, it's usually because it is...

Beyond that, I want to get down to 0mg nic. because I don't want to be one of those people that I keep hearing about that are addicted to nicotine for the rest of my life. Addiction to me means you can't get enough of something. Be it nicotine, or drugs, or caffeine, or alcohol... Too much of anything, is not a good thing.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. Right, wrong, or indifferent. Thanks for taking the time to read it

 

[rabbit13]

A lot of people want to feel in control of themselves, and therefore don't like feeling dependent on anything.
This, despite the fact that there are lots of things that they are dependent on, like love and money and food and water.

And then of course there are a lot of people who have been brainwashed into thinking "addictions" are always bad.
And finally, you have those who think that nicotine really is so bad for you that it is important to stop using it as soon as possible.

When I first started vaping I was stoked at how I could do it discreetly, say, in line at Disneyland. This basically meant that I was happy I didn't have to fiend for Nic. Well it dawned on me: who else doesn't need to fiend for Nic? The obvious answer is Non-Nic users. This realization hit me hard and I quit all Nic for a while. Am not a fan of Nic, as it's a drug whose main effect (some would argue solitary effect) on our brain is to tell us to use more.

That said vaping is fun, I enjoy it most of the time, and it beats the heck out of A-logs.

 

[Eli Huffman]

I love vaping. Ever since I quit smoking, vaping has actually been fun! I love all the different flavors I use, different products, and best of all I get my fix without all the negative aspects of cigarettes!!

I don't think I'll ever stop!

 

[clara.t107]

I had no plans to quit analogs but surprise! finally after about 4 months of using both I decided to stop wasting $$ and health... its been a few days and I had some pretty rough withdrawal from cigs but now I am a happy vaper.
And I don't think I'll ever quit vaping cuz I'd probably start smoking again!

 

[swedishfish]

For me, I intend to get down to 0 mg. nic. I started at 24mg, I am now down to 3mg. I mix my own from 36mg. Why? A lot of people might not like this answer, but because I am not a trusting person. I don't trust 100% that vaping is completely safe. I know nicotine is a poison and while there is no proof that nicotine is carcinogenic, there is equally no proof that it isn't. Do I think vaping is safer than analogs? You bet! Do I think it's harmless? I don't know. As others have mentioned, there are cardiovascular implications. So, harm free, I doubt it. Not trying to be a downer here, just being realistic. Much less harmful, yeah, I'll buy that. Just remember that if something seems too good to be true, it's usually because it is...

Beyond that, I want to get down to 0mg nic. because I don't want to be one of those people that I keep hearing about that are addicted to nicotine for the rest of my life. Addiction to me means you can't get enough of something. Be it nicotine, or drugs, or caffeine, or alcohol... Too much of anything, is not a good thing.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. Right, wrong, or indifferent. Thanks for taking the time to read it

Why don't you just quit then? You're only vaping 3 mg. Not trying to be nasty, just curious. I wouldn't think it'd be that hard for you at this point.

If you have concerns about the nicotine, you're only vaping 3 mg. and getting between 10%-40% of that. A piece of gum should do it at this pont - if you even need it. If you're really concerned about the health aspect and not a trusting person, who's to say vaping flavoring that's meant to be ingested is good for you to inhale? PG has been studied pretty extensively but what about vaping VG? If you're concerned about the unknowns, it's not just the nicotine. I don't know, if I ever got down to 3 mg. I imagine I'd quit.

 

[zizzlak]

Why don't you just quit then? You're only vaping 3 mg. Not trying to be nasty, just curious. I wouldn't think it'd be that hard for you at this point.

Because I am addicted of course! lol... Mainly because I am not ready to give it up yet. Not only that but I just switched down to 3mg, from 7mg. Trying to make it as painless as possible I didn't think you were being nasty either For me it is a process. I have had a crutch in nicotine for the past 25 years. Old habits die hard, and I am ok with that.

 

[cigarbabe]

I don't ever intend to quit.
Why would I? I never wanted to stop smoking but because it has such a damaging effect on your lung function I knew I needed to find a way to stop that didn't include all the useless NRT's I'd already tried.
Then a friend turned me on to vaping!
Now I have all my lung function back and all is well!
Nicotine is not carcinogenic though addictive supposedly.
I went from 24 to 12, 18 and back again to 24 and from using 50/50 mix to an 80/20 VG majority, not sure why but it seems to have a slightly stronger feel and taste to me and seeing as it's 99% safer than cigarettes I never intend to quit!
I have high pressure on one side of my heart,I've had open heart surgery and had a tricuspid valve replaced with a porcine implant so I asked my surgeon if there was anything I shouldn't be doing, he knows I vape and he and the cardiologist said "NO"..
Works for me and if I should die from some complications from vaping and heart disease I die HAPPY!
C.B..

 

[mlinky]

I plan to keep vaping. I need the nicotine.

 

[swedishfish]

Because I am addicted of course! lol... Mainly because I am not ready to give it up yet. Not only that but I just switched down to 3mg, from 7mg. Trying to make it as painless as possible I didn't think you were being nasty either For me it is a process. I have had a crutch in nicotine for the past 25 years. Old habits die hard, and I am ok with that.

I think you're doing outstanding and probably not as addicted as you think you are. It took you a year to get down to 3mg? How soon before you made a jump to the next lower level?

I'm asking for my Mom. Her goal really is to quit completely. She started at 36 and I just made an order for her for 8 I believe. (I'll have to double check). So she's doing well.

My fear would be that I got to zero and continued to vape, there's a chance I could start with the nic juice again. If I stopped vaping, maybe not. I'm not really at that point though. I like vaping and it's keeping me off cigs. That's all I care about at this point. By the time they figure out that vaping is good/terrible I'll be long gone.

I remember when my poor Dad gave up coffee because it was supposed to be so bad for you. And eggs! All these years later, we find out they aren't. And the poor guy loved both!

I don't think if I ever got to zero I'd still vape, but I guess you never really know.

 

[wyckdkarma]

I've been a lurker here for a bit... I started vaping mainly so that I could "smoke" more and in more places, lol! I had NO intention of quitting smoking.. at all, it was a side effect if you will. I was amazed with my first e-cig and shared it with my mom, who ordered right away and hasn't had an analog since. I've no intention to quit vaping, but if it happens, seems appropriate, feels right, etc at some point, then ok, but right now, No, no plans to quit!

 

[mohawkx]

Not sure.....but this Buddhist teaching somehow applies to this thread and to my ultimate goal.

"Use everything. Be a slave to nothing."

 

[zizzlak]

I think you're doing outstanding and probably not as addicted as you think you are. It took you a year to get down to 3mg? How soon before you made a jump to the next lower level?

LOL, thank you. You are probably right, I could give it up tomorrow but I guess I fear being nic. free for some dumbass reason Like others have mentioned all over these boards, I tried it on a whim. What did I have to lose right? To my surprise, it worked! Holy crap, it actually worked! But that's not news. What worked for me is that realizing that I was able to replace analogs with e-cigs, I could control my nic. intake. Add in that there aren't the same 400, 4000, 400,000 chemicals, whatever it is, suddenly there is no rush. I don't have to quit tomorrow, or next week, or ever if I don't want. That went a long way towards taking the self-imposed pressure off. Step down when I want, when I felt like it. Too late for the short answer lol, but it basically worked out that every 3 mos. I stepped it down. Mostly 3mg at a time. DIY meant I could control the steps.

As far as your mom goes? That's excellent. Good for her. As far as you go? That's excellent. Good for you The whole point I guess is that now you have options. Everyone who has taken the plunge into vaping and e-cigs have done the unthinkinkable. They either got off analogs, or they brought the use way down. Good for all of you! Any analog you don't smoke is one less thing killing you. Every time you don't smoke an analog, you should be proud...

I encourage everyone to go at their own pace. Like I always say, "whatever's clever." I am not going to judge, I have no place to do that. Sorry if I came across on a soapbox, it was unintentional. I guess in my own long-winded way I was trying to say there is no wrong way to go about quitting cigarettes, or even nic. intake if that's not something you want to do.

On a side note note, where in Jersey swedishfish? Grew up in E. Rutherford, among other places, myself

 

[MustangSallie]

So that means you'll be gifting all of your e-cigs and supplies to your friends here on the forum once you reach your ultimate goal, right? It seems the only way to achieve the first part of that saying. You wouldn't want all those GoGo's to go to waste when you're finished with them.

 

[mohawkx]

So that means you'll be gifting all of your e-cigs and supplies to your friends here on the forum once you reach your ultimate goal, right? It seems the only way to achieve the first part of that saying. You wouldn't want all those GoGo's to go to waste when you're finished with them.

When it happens, that will be the case.

I'm old, I can't take anything with me.